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Ben on OKRs is a practical, real-world (and FUN) podcast hosted by Ben Lamorte, the founder of OKRs.com. Ben wrote The OKRs Field Book in 2022, the first book dedicated to the field of OKRs coaching. In fact, it's been rumored that Ben is the most experienced OKR coach on the planet. Ben shares insights from mentoring 50+ OKR coaches and working with 300+ organizations to help leaders turn OKRs into a powerful execution system to drive focus, alignment, and bottom-line results. This podcast is designed for: Executives and senior leaders Strategy and operations professionals HR and transformation leaders Agile coaches looking to broaden their skill set Managers responsible for execution and alignment Anyone implementing or improving OKRs You’ll learn: Why OKRs fail and what to do about that How to leverage AI to 10x OKR execution How to write meaningful, outcome-driven OKRs How to align teams around strategy How to run effective OKR cycles How to turn OKRs into a sustainable execution system Contact: Ben@OKRs.com

  1. 31 MAR

    How to Fail with OKRs #1: Start with KPIs

    How to Fail with OKRs: Start with a List of KPIs One of the fastest ways to mess up your OKRs program is to start with a list of KPIs and then try to decide which ones should become Key Results. It sounds logical. And many smart teams (including me in my early days!) can fall into this trap. This episode explains why starting with KPIs can deraily your OKRs program and how the right way is to start with values and critical thinking rather than a list of metrics. Early in my own OKR journey, I made this exact same mistake! I began sessions by showing teams standard industry KPIs and asking them to choose which ones should be their Key Results. I thought I was adding value, but in reality, I was limiting their thinking. This episode introduces the distinction between alternative-focused thinking and value-focused thinking and shows how this concept applies directly to drafting OKRs. To make this practical I share a simple example from everyday life involving how we choose something as ordinary as salad dressing. Do we begin with the available options or do we begin with what really matters to us You will learn how starting from existing metrics can trap teams into maintaining what they already measure instead of improving what truly matters. I describe two clear warning signs that your OKR drafting process may be broken and driven by alternative thinking rather than value driven clarity. I also share a real coaching example with a marketing team that illustrates the shift from focusing on existing email metrics to identifying what truly mattered improving the return on investment of major marketing events. By stepping back from the list of available metrics the team realized they needed to establish a new baseline measure rather than rely on existing dashboards. This led to a more meaningful and strategically aligned Key Result. The core message is simple. KPIs are useful but they should not drive your OKRs. OKRs should begin with vision priorities and values then identify the right Key Results to measure progress. If you want your OKRs to drive real improvement rather than simply track activity this episode will help you rethink how you begin. As always, contact me via Ben@OKRs.com or post a comment here.

    10 min

  2. 27 MAR

    From Agile to Aligned: CareerBuilder’s OKR Shift (Real OKR Implementations #4)

    From Agile to Aligned: CareerBuilder’s OKR Shift CareerBuilder was already Agile. Teams were delivering. Work was moving. So why introduce OKRs? Part 4 of this Real OKR Implementations explores how organizations actually deploy OKRs in practice. Previous episodes showed how TaxSlayer built accountability through scoring and cadence, how GoNoodle launched OKRs in just 18 days, and how Zalando scaled OKRs by developing in-house experts. This episode explores a different question: What happens when a high functioning Agile organization uses OKRs to strengthen alignment and shift conversations from execution to impact? CareerBuilder is one of the largest online job platforms in the United States and has served 24 million monthly visitors and worked with 92 percent of the Fortune 1000. Andy Krupit Manager of Agile Development shares how the company introduced OKRs to sharpen priorities improve cross team alignment and create real accountability. CareerBuilder adopted OKRs for three reasons. Greater focus on what matters most. Better alignment across teams. And accountability through what Andy described as positive tension from the business. Rather than rolling OKRs out across the organization at once CareerBuilder started at the team level. Through workshops drafting sessions alignment checks and refinement conversations teams shifted from tracking tasks to measuring outcomes. One of the biggest breakthroughs came from asking why. Using the five why technique teams pushed past activity and into strategic intent. They also learned a key lesson. Fewer objectives improve clarity and execution. The result was cultural. Teams discovered shared objectives and began collaborating in new ways. If you are leading OKR implementation, this episode offers practical lessons from a real world journey. As always, post a comment with questions, or better yet: email Ben@OKRs.com to get your OKRs 1:1 consult!

    9 min

  3. 25 MAR

    How to Implement Team Level OKRs Successfully (Workshop 4 of 4)

    How to optimize team-level OKR workshops. Avoid the common pitfalls that can inadvertently increase silo effects and learn how to embed alignment into all aspects of your OKRs program. Ben walks you through how to get your teams going on OKRs by starting with a top-level OKR presentation as context along with OKR theory. Here's a sample agenda: Here is a sample agenda that we used with one of our clients: 8:00–9:00 am: Introductions, CEO briefing on OKRs journey 9:00–10:00 am: OKRs theory/refresher and review of top-level OKRs 10:00–11:00 am: Draft team-level OKRs 11:00–12:00 pm: Report backs and idea sharing 12:00–1:00 pm: Lunch 1:00–2:00 pm: Refine OKRs, participants interact outside their team to align on dependencies 2:00–2:45 pm: Report backs 2:45-3:00 pm: Next steps and key takeaways Takeaways for Team-Level Workshops Schedule team-level workshops after defining OKRs teams Include members from multiple functional teams to foster cross-functional alignment Begin with an overview of top-level OKRs to create context Please comment or post questions in this post or even better, request a free 1:1 consult with Ben via Ben@OKRs  Thanks for listening!

    7 min

  4. 23 MAR

    TaxSlayer’s OKR Implementation: From SMART Goals to Results (Real OKR Implementation #3)

    TaxSlayer’s OKR Implementation: From SMART Goals to Results Most companies set annual goals. Very few build a system that actually drives measurable results. In this episode, Ben breaks down how TaxSlayer, a tax preparation and software company serving millions of customers, moved beyond traditional SMART goals and implemented OKRs to create real accountability, alignment, and execution discipline. Like many organizations, TaxSlayer relied on annual goal-setting. But leadership realized that yearly planning alone wasn’t enough to create urgency or sustained focus. They needed a framework that connected strategy to execution and forced better conversations about what success truly meant. Enter OKRs! Devin Sherman, Director of Corporate Planning, introduced OKRs after researching the model and seeing how companies like Google and Intel used it to drive performance. What followed was a structured rollout starting at the corporate and division levels, supported by workshops, executive preparation, and disciplined scoring. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why SMART goals weren’t enough — and what OKRs changed How upfront scoring “rocked their world” and elevated accountability The breakthrough moment in distinguishing tasks from true Key Results How consistent check-ins turned OKRs into a management system Lessons learned about alignment and cross-functional execution Why OKRs must evolve beyond activity tracking to drive real impact One of the biggest realizations? They had been “run over by tasks and actions” instead of focusing on measurable outcomes. OKRs changed that, not just by clarifying goals, but also by reshaping how leaders managed execution. If you’re implementing OKRs or trying to strengthen execution discipline in a growing organization, this episode offers practical insights from a real case study. To learn more about strengthening your OKR program, including the OKRs Expert Workshop and 2-Cycle Deployment model, take a look at visit OKRs.com. As always, for a 1:1 OKR consult send a note to me via Ben@OKRs.com

    13 min

  5. 20 MAR

    How Smart Teams Make OKRs Work: 5 Proven Practices

    OK, so the last episode was a big "negative" as we explored why even smart, capable teams struggle with OKRs. Today, let's shift the focus to what high-performing teams actually do differently to make OKRs work in the real world. You’ll learn how successful teams stay relentlessly focused on outcomes instead of activity start small and build capability before scaling keep OKRs alive through a consistent execution rhythm run structured check-ins do fewer things, but do them well. OKRs are simple, but they require discipline. This episode breaks down the execution patterns that turn OKRs from a planning exercise into a real system for driving focus, alignment, and measurable progress. For more, check us out www.okrs.com Thanks for listening!

    10 min

  6. 17 MAR

    Why Smart Teams Still Fail with OKRs: 7 Common Pitfalls

    OK, thought this would be 5 reasons, but we ended up adding 2 more in the end! Find out what those other two are by listening to this episode. Here are the "TOP 5"... 1. Turning Key Results into a To-Do List The most common failure mode is incredibly human. Teams turn key results into a checklist: Launch feature Hire two engineers Run campaign Build dashboard Great work "to do" but none reflect outcomes/KRs. 2. Rolling Out OKRs Too Fast This is one of the biggest killers of OKR programs. A leadership team runs OKRs successfully, then decides: “Let’s deploy OKRs everywhere....Now!” 3. “Set It and Forget It” Arguably the most common reason why OKRs projects fail. Teams get excited after publishing OKRs (like New year's resolutions) and then just go back to work. Near the middle or end of the OKR cycle, people are like "Oh, yeah we should look at our OKRs..." 4. No Standard Check-In Cadence Even teams that care about OKRs often lack a structured rhythm. Check-ins are: Inconsistent Unstructured Status-heavy Or skipped entirely Without a set cadence, your OKRs program is close to worthless. 5. Setting Too Many OKRs Ambitious teams often believe more goals mean more drive. In reality, more goals dilute execution. Common pattern: Too many objectives Too many key results Everything is a priority! When everything matters, nothing moves. The highest-performing teams consistently do fewer things, but do them well. For more, check us out at www.okrs.com Thanks for listening!

    16 min

  7. 16 MAR

    The 9 Essential Roles in a Successful OKR Program

    Ben introduces the 9 roles you'll need to launch and sustain your OKRs program. OK, so you might not need an EXTERNAL OKRs COACH, but Ben is going to push for that and not just because that's his job! It's super-valuable to get an outside perspective from someone with deep experience both 1) launching OKRs, 2) improving OKRs, and even 3) training internal OKR coaches so you can sustain your OKRs program without external support.  Here are the 9 roles along with when you'll need to identify a person to fill each:  In addition to "external coach" as optional, some of the other roles may not be required. For example, if you're launching top-level OKRs only, you don't need "TEAM LEAD"). If you don't have a performance management or review system in place yet, then you also don't need an "HR Lead") For more on OKRs, check out our site: www.okrs.com Best of luck filling those roles! Thanks for listening!

    15 min

  8. 13 MAR

    6 Mantras for OKR Success That Drive Focus and Execution

    Ben covers the 5 things you must keep in mind to succeed with OKRs. And he even gets into the 6th mantra which was added recently, after his OKRs book came out in 2022. You'll learn how to leverage these 5 mantras to make your OKR program a success: 1.Less is more. Define a small set of OKRs. 2.Crawl-walk-run. Deploy OKRs piecemeal. Scale it then nail it. (2 cycles) 3.Outcomes, not output. Write key results that mostly reflect outcomes (results) rather than output (amount of work delivered). 4.OKRs are not everything. Write OKRs that reflect the most important areas to make measurable progress. Distinguish OKRs from tasks and health metrics. 5.The only way to learn OKRs is to do OKRs. Allocate most of an OKRs project to drafting, refining and reflecting on OKRs rather than discussing theory. 6.Embed Alignment. Listen in to learn more about Ben's latest mantra! For more info check out www.okrs.com Thanks for listening and see you next time!

    12 min
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Ben on OKRs is a practical, real-world (and FUN) podcast hosted by Ben Lamorte, the founder of OKRs.com. Ben wrote The OKRs Field Book in 2022, the first book dedicated to the field of OKRs coaching. In fact, it's been rumored that Ben is the most experienced OKR coach on the planet. Ben shares insights from mentoring 50+ OKR coaches and working with 300+ organizations to help leaders turn OKRs into a powerful execution system to drive focus, alignment, and bottom-line results. This podcast is designed for: Executives and senior leaders Strategy and operations professionals HR and transformation leaders Agile coaches looking to broaden their skill set Managers responsible for execution and alignment Anyone implementing or improving OKRs You’ll learn: Why OKRs fail and what to do about that How to leverage AI to 10x OKR execution How to write meaningful, outcome-driven OKRs How to align teams around strategy How to run effective OKR cycles How to turn OKRs into a sustainable execution system Contact: Ben@OKRs.com

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