The Conditional Release Program

Jack the Insider and Joel Hill

Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists. Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad? Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics. From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style. The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho. Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

  1. SAMPLE - Black Label 39 - Iran - Naughty Jan 6ers - Farrer and SA elections - HCA Vic donations case

    19 MAR

    SAMPLE - Black Label 39 - Iran - Naughty Jan 6ers - Farrer and SA elections - HCA Vic donations case

    In my legally unqualified opinion we didn't defame anyone in the first 30 mins so we will give y'all a bit of content to chew on while we get the next main ep going. Notes are slop as declared! Enjoy and sign up if you want more! patreon.com/theconditionalreleaseprogram ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Big one here! Was a fun record. At the end we also have a quick chat about Monica's upcoming appeal though limited because Jack needed to scurry off for a durry and watch his beloved Carlton play (and win) a game. Bless - he will be in a good mood this week. Here's some AI slop show notes. This one's from Gemini Pro - thinking model. PS gemini is lying there's a ton that's off limits but we do push the envelope a bit in the second half. Enjoy :-) Show Notes In this extended Black Label episode, Jack and Joel dive deep into the unfolding chaos of the Iran War, the disturbing criminal fallout of Donald Trump’s January 6th pardons, and the "rigged" nature of Australian electoral finance laws. From dirty bombs to "demonic realms" in South Australian politics, nothing is off-limits. The Middle East: The Bad Sequel The Iran War: Jack and Joel discuss the lack of an exit strategy in the escalating conflict involving Israel, Iran, and Lebanon Intelligence Gaps: A look at the "gutting" of the U.S. security apparatus and why the duo currently trusts ASIO over the FBI. The "Dirty Bomb" Threat: A breakdown of radioactive materials like Cesium-137 and Americium—and Joel’s childhood plan involving a smoke detector. The Matildas & Bravery: The team discusses the defection of five Iranian women’s soccer players in Australia. U.S. News: Pardons and Predators The Crime Wave: A startling analysis of the 1,600 January 6th insurrectionists pardoned by Trump. At least 33 have already re-offended or were revealed to have extensive records. Disturbing Trends: Discussion on the over-representation of child sex offenders among the J6 pardoned group compared to the general population. Prison Politics: Jack explains the "Aryan Brotherhood" intake process in federal penitentiaries. Australian Politics: Rigged Systems & Religious "Fruit Loops" The Farrer By-election: Why the Liberal Party might run third in Susan Ley’s old seat as an Independent looks to "piss it in". South Australian "Demons": The rise of Liberal candidate Carsten Woodhouse, his views on "demonic realms," and why the SA Liberals are facing a 60-40 wipeout. Electoral Finance Lawsuit: A deep dive into the High Court challenge by Paul Hopper and Melissa Lowe against Victorian donation laws that appear designed to entrench the major parties. The Cooker Corner: Monica’s Day in Court The Appeal: Monica Smit returns to court to challenge her costs order. Calderbank Offers: Joel explains how Monica's rejection of a settlement offer led to her current financial peril—and why she admitted on Twitter that she "knew the risks".

    33 min
  2. The Two Jacks - Episode 149 - How We Consume News (and Why It Matters)

    19 MAR

    The Two Jacks - Episode 149 - How We Consume News (and Why It Matters)

    Okay so it seems that episode 148 hasn't actually gone up yet. So I will do that later. Yes, 148 goes before 149 but we are post modern and cool like that. And hey, now you can liten to episode 148 and know HKJ is wrong instead of wondering if he will be wrong. Hindsight is 20/20 indeed. This AI slop is brought to you by Copilot 'premium' which is the one that makes the talky guns and tracky cameras. Episode summary A non‑news episode that examines personal media habits, the shifting political spectrum (using the ABC Vote Compass), the economics of modern journalism, social platforms and the disruptive risks and benefits of AI — plus a run through books, magazines, streamers and sport. The hosts compare how they start the day, which outlets they trust, and how AI is already changing creative and legal work. Key theme: media survival depends on business models, editorial craft and sensible regulation of new technologies. “Well, g'day listeners and welcome once again to the Two Jacks. We've got a slightly different program today for you. We're not going to cover the news. We're going to cover media and who we like in it and and the pressures that are on media at the moment, where that all might lead to, the role of social media, AI, et cetera.”. Show notes with timestamps (all timestamps shifted +25 seconds to allow for theme music) - 00:00:25 — Intro & episode focus — Hosts set out the plan: a media‑focused episode rather than the usual news rundown. - 00:01:47 — Political identity & background — Hong Kong Jack describes his political journey (centre‑left, former Socialist Left faction). - 00:03:38 — On the “well‑trodden path” — Discussion of how political views used to shift with age and why that pattern is changing for younger voters. - 00:06:54 — ABC Vote Compass exercise — Jack completes the Vote Compass and they discuss how algorithms and question framing shape results. - 00:21:08 — Vote Compass results & interpretation — Jack’s alignment scores (e.g., 75% with Coalition, 54% with Labor, 20% with Greens) and the hosts’ take on what that means. - 00:27:13 — Daily media routines — What each host reads and listens to first thing (newspapers, RN, X/Twitter scans, US/UK outlets). Practical notes on tabloids vs broadsheets for breaking local news. - 00:39:32 — Opinion vs reporting — How to spot news reporting vs opinion pages and why craftful writing (examples: Marina Hyde, Andrew Sullivan) matters. - 01:03:35 — Magazines & books — Short detour on the decline of magazines, favourite authors (PG Wodehouse, Ian Rankin, Patrick Radden Keefe). - 01:03:35 — Streamers & sport viewing — How the hosts manage subscriptions, Foxtel/streamer fatigue and watching AFL/NRL. - 00:50:45 — AI: opportunities and risks — Start of the AI segment: research uses, creative pitfalls, and legal/compliance concerns. - 00:56:21 — ByteDance / C‑Dance & IP concerns — Discussion of AI‑generated video, likeness rights and the potential for major intellectual‑property disputes. - 01:01:46 — Regulation debate — Should AI be regulated now or allowed to evolve? The hosts weigh the tradeoffs and recall missed regulatory opportunities with social media. - 01:13:03 — Sport roundup — AFL, NRL and international sport highlights and controversies (Sydney Swans commemoration, fixture fairness, early season form). - 01:29:08 — Wrap & final thoughts — Media matters; paying for quality journalism and the need to balance innovation with safeguards. Key takeaways - Media habits shape perception — where you start your day (tabloid, broadsheet, radio, X) affects what you notice and how you interpret events. - Quality writing still matters — craft, clarity and wit keep readers engaged and build trust. - AI is a double‑edged sword — powerful for research and diagnostics, risky for copyright, fabrication and legal accuracy; human verification remains essential. - Business model = survival — subscriptions and reliable revenue streams determine whether outlets can afford deep reporting.

    1hr 31min
  3. The Two Jacks - Episode 147 - Khamenei Down, Carney in Town & the AFL Kicks Off

    10 MAR

    The Two Jacks - Episode 147 - Khamenei Down, Carney in Town & the AFL Kicks Off

    Claude wrote these. I did not. Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack are back for Episode 147, recorded on 5 March 2026. It's a massive week of news — a record Kiwi exodus to Australia, a leaked Liberal Party post-mortem, the Star Casino legal fallout, a landmark war in Iran, and a bumper AFL season preview. Settle in. Record Kiwi Migration & Trans-Tasman Economics [00:00:41] The BBC reports New Zealand citizens are leaving at record levels — over 60,000 departed in a single year, the equivalent of 180 people per day. Former PM Jacinda Ardern has joined the exodus, reportedly house-hunting on Sydney's northern beaches. Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack debate the merits of the northern beaches vs. the eastern suburbs, and the real net migration figures behind the headlines. Net migration loss from NZ: over 30,000 in 2024 to Australia alone Long-term departures hit 101,932 in 2023 — remarkable for a nation of 5.3 million NZ GDP per capita: USD 49,000 vs. Australia's USD 69,000 New Zealand has been in negative GDP growth since December 2024, but is forecasting ~4% growth in the next financial year Australia has maintained consistent positive GDP growth post-COVID (0.8%–2.5% p.a.) The two countries are described as being at opposite ends of the economic cycle Brief discussion on Jacinda Ardern's post-Harvard career options and what Julia Gillard's post-PM trajectory looks like by comparison 🗳️ The Leaked Liberal Party Review [00:07:44] The suppressed post-mortem of the coalition's catastrophic 2025 federal election loss has been leaked — ultimately tabled in Parliament by PM Albanese himself, making it public. Jack the Insider has read the first version of the 64-page document. The review was always going to leak; opposition leader Angus Taylor's attempt to suppress it backfired spectacularly Key findings: breakdown in relationship between Peter Dutton's office and the federal campaign director; policy made without clear authorship Jane Hume named for two damaging gaffes — claiming Chinese spies were handing out how-to-votes for Labor, and overstating the case against work-from-home (she later apologised to The Australian's industrial relations reporter Ewan Hannan) The work-from-home policy has no identifiable author Dutton still insisting he was ahead in polls in February Discussion of Labor's own 2019 review and the broader lesson for parties about not releasing policy too early 🏢 Star Casino Federal Court Ruling [00:19:05] A breaking story: the Federal Court has handed down adverse findings against two former Star Entertainment executives in a landmark corporate governance case. Former CEO Matt Bekier and former Chief Legal Officer Paula Martin found to have breached Section 180 of the Corporations Act (duties of care and diligence) between 2017–2019 Justice Michael Lee (described as "the busiest judge in the country") cleared seven other board members including former ARU chair John O'Neill Sanctions yet to be handed down; ASIC likely to weigh in The broader discussion covers the structural problem with casino business models: regulatory compliance around money laundering may be fundamentally incompatible with profitability Crown Melbourne's tribulations and multiple royal commissions also referenced, including a colourful anecdote about a criminal money-laundering operation that went badly wrong 🏠 Victoria's Work-From-Home Legislation [00:24:46] The Allan government is moving to enshrine the right to work from home in Victorian legislation. Jack the Insider sees echoes of the dying days of the Cain-Kirner government — a paralysed administration unable to confront the CFMEU, reaching for popular populist measures to shift the narrative Genuine doubt raised about whether the Victorian government has the constitutional authority to extend this beyond the state's own industrial relations jurisdiction Ironic observation: the CFMEU may now be able to commit its alleged crimes from the comfort of home, enshrined in law by the very government it dominates 🏏 R.I.P. Dennis Cometti — A Legend of Australian Sporting Commentary [00:27:41] A sad farewell to one of Australia's greatest sports broadcasters, Dennis Cometti, who passed away aged 76 after an illness. Remembered for his wit, calm authority, extraordinary phrasing ("centimetre perfect") and versatility across AFL, swimming, and Olympics His long partnership with Bruce McAvaney celebrated — both were known for generously lifting their co-commentators rather than hogging the spotlight Matthew Richardson recalled how Cometti and McAvaney would share stats and ideas with sideline reporters to make the whole program better — rare generosity in the industry Bruce McAvaney described the loss of his "great mate" as losing "something truly precious" Jack the Insider teases a future story about his own interview with Bruce McAvaney 🇮🇷 The Iran War — A Deep Dive [00:30:51] The episode's centrepiece: a thorough analysis of the US and Israeli strikes on Iran that rocked the world. The Opening Strikes [00:30:51] Strikes on Tehran targeted the Iranian leadership with remarkable precision; 49 killed including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, his daughter, his grandson, and dozens of senior officials The operation was months in the making — US assets were being repositioned in the Middle East from Christmas onwards Diplomatic talks with Iran are assessed as having been a strategic cover for the military build-up Who Was Khamenei? [00:32:37] In power since the 1979 Islamic Revolution — 47 years of directing proxy terrorism via Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis Jack the Insider recounts the chilling Mark Colvin story: journalists taken to a quarry outside Tehran in 1979 and shown a sea of bodies — the regime announcing who it was from day one The International Law Question [00:58:37] Assessed as genuinely unclear — international law is a patchwork of conflicting treaties with no real enforcement mechanism against superpowers Germany's Chancellor Merz singled out for the most coherent response: a country that ignores international law and lies about funding terrorism cannot claim its protection The UN condemned the US and Israel but said nothing about Iran killing 30,000 of its own people six weeks prior Global Reactions [00:59:39] Spain denied access to US bases; Trump retaliated by threatening to cut all trade between South America and the US Portugal quickly offered support France sending an aircraft carrier (one of only 12 "top-class" flat-tops in the world — 11 American, 1 French) Australia: supportive, aligned with Canada, Germany, and France in what Hong Kong Jack calls "the sensible centre" UK: Keir Starmer initially refused access to RAF bases and Chagos Islands, changed position only after Iran struck a British base in Cyprus; faced an internal cabinet revolt led by Ed Miliband The Mossad Intelligence Operation [00:51:38] Mossad hacked Tehran's traffic camera network and used algorithms to map the movements and behavioural patterns of all senior Iranian officials Combined with deep long-term human intelligence — reportedly the head of Iran's unit charged with rooting out Mossad infiltration was himself a Mossad agent Ariel Sharon reportedly tasked Mossad with making Iran its priority target 25 years ago Iran's Military Capacity & the Missile Question [00:54:26] Iran holds approximately 5,200 ballistic missiles capable of striking 600–1,000km range — plus extensive drone capacity (the Shahed-1, used by Russia in Ukraine) Missiles fired as far as Cyprus, the UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Jordan in the initial chaotic response Pakistan publicly reminded Iran of its security pact with Saudi Arabia (which includes a nuclear dimension) Iran assessed as now diplomatically friendless — India also opposed Oil: West Texas Intermediate sitting at USD 77.32 at time of recording; Straits of Hormuz insurance issues mean tankers may be forced around the Cape of Good Hope The End Game [00:46:08] Pete Hegseth: no "hollow democratisation" — objectives described as conservative Assessed likely goal: degrade Iran's military capacity and defund its proxy network (Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis) Regime change seen as desirable but practically very difficult — Revolutionary Guard and military figures are financially entrenched in the system Demographics: Tehran's middle class largely despise the regime; rural Iran retains significant support for the clerics Reza Pahlavi (the Shah's son, in exile in the US) continues to lobby for recognition, though his credentials beyond his family name are questioned Iran under internet blackout for over a week — very little information getting out 🇨🇦 Canadian PM Mark Carney's State Visit [00:15:23] Mark Carney visited Australia fresh from a major diplomatic breakthrough in India — signing deals worth billions and repairing a relationship damaged by the Sikh separatist controversy under Trudeau. Hong Kong Jack: Carney's speech was "heavily laden with management speak" Both Australia and Canada noted for carefully managing their relationships with Trump's America — characterised in Australian political cartoons as competitive sycophancy Canada is the US's largest oil supplier — giving it significant strategic importance as the Iran conflict strains global supply 🇺🇸 Clinton Depositions & the Epstein Files [01:08:19] Hillary and Bill Clinton both deposed before the House Oversight Committee's Epstein investigation. Hillary described as giving as good as she got — "slapping around" committee members including Lauren Boebert Boebert violated rules by photographing Clinton during the deposition and circulating it on social media Bill Clinton, now in his mid-80s, was photographed reviewing Epstein documents with an expression compared to "being handed photos from your university days" Pam Bondi called to give evidence before the

    1hr 33min
  4. Episode 205 - Epstein Fury ft Hillary + Pizza - GC Trump Tower - Woke AI - BABET!

    6 MAR

    Episode 205 - Epstein Fury ft Hillary + Pizza - GC Trump Tower - Woke AI - BABET!

    We are back and it's been a huge fortnight on the fringe of right wing politics. We have forgotten about Epstein thanks to Operation Epstein Fury - but is that really why Trump went ahead with his 'definitely not a war for the sake of congress' military operation? Probably not. But hey, that's what we said when Clinton did a PR campaign for Tomahawk Cruise Missiles over in Serbia when things heated up at home. Either way, there's a slim chance this won't end terribly. The Epstein files are going great with Hillary Clinton - for some reason - being pulled into a closed door session with career idiot Lauren Boebert who asked her about pizzagate because, well, this entire thing is a farce. Trump Tower is definitely happening on the Gold Coast which will be a billion stories high and run by a very competent former Yeppoon pub owner. Can't think of a better bloke to make this thing definitely happen. What could possibly go wrong? Anthropic are woke because they don't want to implement mass surveillance and fully autonomous weapons but don't worry, Sam Altman is happy to do that one. We are all going to die. SovCits sees Dale Doback turn a $500 speeding fine into a protracted courtroom shitfight for no apparent reason and... BABET HAS NOT BEEN IDLE! Enjoy folks. Thanks for your support - please give us money on Patreon but if that kind of thankless behaviour is unsatisfying go to cbco.beer and enter CRP10 at the checkout and get some discounted good beer. It doesn't really help us but the beer is legit good and well priced!!!

    2hr 1min
  5. 27 FEB

    The Two Jacks - Episode 146 - One Nation’s Surge, NDIS Reform & the Politics of Fea

    AS USUAL SHOWNOTES ARE AI SLOP BY CLAUDE SONNET 4.6 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER ----------------------------------------------------------- A wide‑ranging hour covering domestic politics (One Nation’s surge and the Coalition’s paralysis), major policy debates (NDIS reform, political donations), crime and national security items, transport projects, and international flashpoints from the US tariffs decision to Iran and Russia. Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack mix sharp political analysis with on‑the‑ground colour and sport/entertainment roundups. 00:00:26 — Intro & banter Quick greeting, light chat about Chinese New Year and local life in Hong Kong. Sets tone and introduces the episode. 00:01:36 — One Nation surge & polling deep-dive Discussion of recent polls showing One Nation jumping into mid‑teens/20s in places; skepticism about methodology (Roy Morgan/telephone vs face‑to‑face) and how soft protest votes can be. Hong Kong Jack calls this a historically large minor‑party rise. 00:06:49 — Why major conservatives look frozen (cost of One Nation policy) Analysis of Coalition paralysis on immigration policy; PBO estimate on net‑zero migration cost discussed; critique that Liberals/Nationals aren’t confronting One Nation’s policy platform. 00:10:47 — Keith Wallerhan essay: who are modern decisive voters? Summary of Wallerhan’s argument that the old “Phil & Jenny” voter has shifted; a new aspirational, tertiary‑educated, renting suburban voter is key and the Liberal Party hasn’t adapted. 00:13:29 — Nationals, nuclear sites and political messaging failures How rushed / poorly communicated policy (nuclear sites list) triggered NIMBY backlash; claim the Coalition isn’t doing the detailed work needed to respond to voter shifts. 00:18:28 — High Court challenge to Victoria’s political donations regime Two independents argue the law entrenches major parties by cutting off new fundraising structures; discussion of the likely timing and importance for the November state election. 00:20:30 — Crime: abduction/murder linked to organised crime networks Appalling case of an elderly man abducted from North Ryde, body discovered near Penrith; two men charged, defence suggests broader Sydney crime network involvement. 00:24:56 — Gang violence & the Matt Utai shooting; crime networks in Sydney Brief on organised‑crime turf disputes (the “Coconut Cartel” reference) and ongoing police investigations. 00:24:56 — Transport — Sydney–Newcastle high‑speed rail proposal Federal funding for planning (~AUD 660m so far) discussed; doubts raised about cost, route feasibility and whether fast rail really suits Australia’s geography and travel patterns. 00:31:09 — NDIS & autism diagnosis debate Mike Freelander (paediatrician & MP) argues autism diagnostic threshold is too low; Grattan Institute numbers referenced; concern NDIS budget/scope is unsustainable without reform. 00:36:29 — Australians in Syrian camps / “ISIS brides” debate Strong views on repatriation and national security; discussion of Australian citizenship rights for children born in Australia and the political difficulty of extracting or repatriating individuals from camps. 00:42:10 — UK entry rules for dual citizens (brief) Note about changes/fees affecting dual UK citizens arriving without a UK passport; implications for Hong Kongers and others. 00:44:20 — United States tariffs & Supreme Court ruling SCOTUS decision limiting presidential tariff powers discussed; Gorsuch and Kavanaugh opinions mentioned; likely litigation and refund battles to follow. 00:56:16 — AI, data centres and environmental concerns Colorado moratorium mention; large energy/water footprints of data centres; practical notes on lawyers/journalists misusing AI (fabricated cases) and AI as a drafting tool that must be checked. 01:04:37 — Middle East: Iran tensions & regional risks Discussion of US/Israeli options, likely limits to air/missile strikes, regional escalation risk and implications for proxy groups (Hezbollah). 01:05:30 — Russia & Ukraine: economic pressure on Moscow Survey of views that Russia’s economy is under severe strain and that continued war may be economically self‑sustaining for the regime. 01:06:13 — UK politics: by‑election in Gorton & Denton (context) Background on the resignation/scandal that triggered the by‑election; polling context (Reform/Greens versus Labor). 01:08:15 — High‑profile UK arrests (Mandelson, Andrew) and “misconduct in public office” Overview of arrests/interviews, differences in UK arrest process vs Australia, discussion of historical use and limits of the offence and prosecution challenges. 01:19:04 — Sport: AFL documentary, Toby Greene, Carlton developments Notes on Amazon Prime’s Inside the AFL; Toby Greene anecdote; Carlton’s new training facility, ESG plan and player signings (Sam Walsh, Jager Smith, Wade Dirksen story). 01:27:41 — NRL in Las Vegas; T20 World Cup & Australian cricket update NRL double‑header success in Vegas; ticket/cost notes. T20 World Cup preview—India/England/West Indies form and women’s team performance spotlight. 01:32:18 — Global oddities and small items (N Korea, etc.) Quick remarks on North Korea’s predictable “reelection” and the historic gap since last nuclear test. 01:33:36 — Outro & listener call‑outs Closing thanks, invitation for listener questions and sign‑off.

    1hr 34min
  6. SAMPLE - Black Label  38 - Thiel's Hallow App - Tariffs - Epstein - SovCit

    24 FEB ·  BONUS

    SAMPLE - Black Label 38 - Thiel's Hallow App - Tariffs - Epstein - SovCit

    I don't think we defamed anyone in the first thirty mins so I thought I might give a snippet to the public feed to keep y'all happy till the next main ep. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrons! Thank you for your continued support. This thing hangs over my head like a dark cloud of unfulfilled expectations despite you all being super chill about whether we release or not. But this one's a banger! Should be a main really but whatever - y'all deserve some quality in your feed. First up is the Hallow app - a pay to pray phone app funded by Peter Thiel (among others) which not only makes you cough up dough to join their shitty prayer challenges - but harvests data and feeds you political messaging. Classic Thiel. God bless that evil vampire. Tariffs are out! They are back in! That was quick. But what happens to the ones they've already taken? There's a grift here. For some insane reason Jack disputes the claim that this is the most corrupt white house in history and then has to read out a list of reasons why that is objectively wrong. Epstein will not go away. Punishment exists outside the USA but just because nobody has gone to their new forever home in handcuffs doesn't mean heads won't roll. For now, but they'll be sweating like - nevermind. And there's a bonghead sovcit who was radicalised online and for some reason his lawyer said that in the past tense. Yeah sure mate! Cook on lad. But don't send cops death threats. They are not fond of them. Enjoy!

    27 min
  7. The Two Jacks - Episode 145 - The Liberal Makeover, Epstein's Elite Friends & Cuba on the Brink

    21 FEB

    The Two Jacks - Episode 145 - The Liberal Makeover, Epstein's Elite Friends & Cuba on the Brink

    THERE IS A FEEDBACK FROM HKJ'S HEADPHONES TO HIS MIC - THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE FIXED - I HAVE BEEN TOLD HKJ HAS BEEN YELLED AT APPROPRIATELY. AI slop from our mate Claude Sonnet 4.6 - who is a good slopmaker and a blessed robot. Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack are back for Episode 145, kicking off with Chinese New Year greetings before diving headlong into the Liberal Party's new leadership under Angus Taylor, Victoria's CFMEU corruption saga, and the ever-deepening Epstein files rabbit hole. They roam through the Munich Security Conference, Zelensky's sharp Putin put-down, Cuba's unravelling regime, and the Iran situation — then lighten the mood with one-hit wonders in literature, the T20 World Cup disaster, AFL State of Origin, Winter Olympics, and the Premier League title race. Buckle up. SHOW NOTES WITH TIMESTAMPS🎉 Introduction & Chinese New Year[0:00:25] — The Two Jacks kick off Episode 145 with Chinese New Year greetings (Kung He Fat Choi!). Hong Kong Jack reports an unusually quiet Hong Kong, with locals escaping to Dubai, Singapore, and Japan to avoid pricey CNY celebrations closer to home. 🏛️ Australian Federal Politics — Angus Taylor & the Liberal Party[0:01:52] — New Liberal Leader: Angus Taylor defeats Susan Lee 34–17, with Jane Hume elected Deputy over Ted O'Brien (30–20). Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack assess whether Taylor can rebuild a shattered party. [0:02:53] — Immigration policy leak: A policy blueprint, reportedly Susan Lee's, surfaced within a day of the spill. Taylor claimed he hadn't seen it. The Jacks debate how the Liberals should handle immigration without gifting One Nation more oxygen. [0:05:59] — Strategy session: Jack the Insider argues Taylor should shut up, take two weeks of parliamentary recess to announce his shadow cabinet quietly, then re-emerge with policy — rather than chasing the media cycle daily. [0:08:57] — The Goward–Menzies review of the Liberal Party's election drubbing: never publicly released, reportedly so legally combustible that lawyers have been called in. The Jacks agree burying internal reviews is standard practice — but ask whether rank-and-file members deserve some honest reckoning. [0:11:00] — Malcolm Turnbull's "best-qualified idiot" quip about Taylor sparks a broader conversation about whether bitter ex-PMs (Turnbull, Abbott) do themselves or their parties any favours by lingering. The Jacks compare them unfavourably to Gillard, Howard, and Keating, who moved on successfully. 🏗️ Victorian State Politics — CFMEU Corruption & the Big Build[0:15:24] — The AFR's damning investigation into the Victorian Government's infrastructure boom: drug deals, strippers, bribes, bikie gangs, ghost ships, and a 15–20% cost blowout to taxpayers. Mick Gatto's denial is, per Jack the Insider, "a pretty bad week" for the government. [0:17:22] — Victorian polling (Demos): LNP 29%, Labor 23%, One Nation 21%, Greens 15%. The eye-opener: One Nation at 15% in inner Melbourne, prompting the memorable line "There are cookers everywhere, Jack." [0:23:51] — The Jacks wrap Victoria: Premier Jacinda Allen is "limping to re-election in November" (28th). Hong Kong Jack suggests she book a Christmas holiday now. Sixteen years in government, a mountain of debt, and a corruption scandal — the cupboard, when opened, will be grim. 🕌 NSW — Muslim Worshippers Dragged from Sydney Protest[0:25:16] — PM Albanese calls for NSW Police to explain footage of officers removing Muslim worshippers praying at a protest against Israeli President Isaac Herzog's visit. The Jacks note the footage, whatever the legal context around move-along orders, was always going to lead news services around the world — and it did. 🎬 Obituaries — Robert Duvall & Rev. Jesse Jackson[0:26:54] — Robert Duvall, dead at 95. The Jacks celebrate a career stretching from Boo Radley in To Kill a Mockingbird (his film debut) through MASH, The Godfather (Parts I & II), Apocalypse Now ("I love the smell of napalm in the morning"), The Conversation, True Grit, and Tender Mercies. His decision to skip Godfather III over pay parity — Pacino was on five times his fee — is vindicated by the finished product. [0:31:30] — Rev. Jesse Jackson, dead. A big, complicated public life: present at Martin Luther King's assassination, kingmaker in Clinton-era Democratic politics, gifted preacher and orator, and a man who had falling-outs with nearly everyone — including the Obamas — before his death. 🇬🇧 UK — Sir Keir Starmer's Bad Week[0:33:21] — Starmer abandons plans to cancel local government elections after pressure from Nigel Farage. The Jacks' verdict: the real reason was the government was set to be shellacked, and it no longer has the political capital to pull something so transparently sneaky. [0:35:35] — Ambassador Peter Mandelson under active criminal investigation. Prince Andrew (referred to properly as Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor) under police investigation connected to the Epstein files — with allegations around misconduct in public office as trade envoy, financial impropriety, and personal conduct (including a Bangkok story that will make listeners raise an eyebrow). Hong Kong Jack's assessment: Andrew ends up in "an open prison on the Sandringham estate." 🕵️ The Epstein Files[0:39:20] — Kathy Ruemmler — former Obama White House Counsel, then Goldman Sachs General Counsel — referred to Epstein as "uncle" and had 10,000 documented interactions with him. The Jacks ask the obvious question: how do people with those credentials and that résumé simply choose not to Google a convicted sex offender? [0:42:00] — Hong Kong Jack's theory on elite social dynamics: even already-famous people are fanboys. Illustrated with a wonderful yarn about Alan Border getting Mick Jagger and Keith Richards fan-girling over him backstage at the O2 — "they were as much fanboys about being there with Alan Border as I was being there with them." [0:44:10] — Kevin Rudd's brush with an Epstein invitation while at a New York think tank: his office's cursory inquiry went no further, while Epstein name-dropped "the former President of Australia" on his guest list anyway. [0:46:06] — Jack the Insider floats a theory: Epstein may have been a Russian FSB/KGB asset. Donald Tusk and others agree. 🌍 Munich Security Conference[0:46:48] — German Chancellor Friedrich Merz opens with an "uncomfortable truth": a deep rift between Europe and the US. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio responds with a speech framing the alliance around Western civilisation — and, astonishingly, receives a standing ovation from European foreign ministers. Hong Kong Jack: "I was astounded that all these European heavyweights were on their feet clapping like seals." The Jacks peg Rubio as the hot favourite for 2028, ahead of J.D. Vance. [0:50:24] — Zelensky's sharp line on Putin at Munich: "His reference points aren't living advisors or the world as it is today, but dead emperors and faded maps. He consults Tsar Peter and Empress Catherine more than anyone who understands modern life." [0:51:36] — The 2028 Democratic primary field was also in Munich: Newsom, AOC, Whitmer, Hillary Clinton (long shot, per Hong Kong Jack). AOC is seen as a strong VP candidate at minimum. ⚙️ Russian Drones — European Components Scandal[0:52:39] — The Organised Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP — occrp.org) reveals Ukrainian military intelligence has dissected downed Iranian-made Shahed-2 drones used by Russia and found over 100 components from approximately 20 European firms — including microchips, receivers, transistors, diodes, antennas, and fuel pumps. The EU's own sanctions envoy acknowledges it's happening under their nose. Hong Kong Jack notes: "History is full of this." Trade routes through Hong Kong and Macau get a mention too. 🇮🇷 Iran — Islam's Collapse & US Military Posturing[1:00:41] — Reza Pahlavi defends Iran–Israel ties and distinguishes the Iranian people from the Tehran regime. Reports (unverified but sourced from multiple outlets) suggest 70% of Iranians have left Islam and two-thirds of mosques have closed due to low attendance. The Jacks note: when the state becomes unpopular, the state religion follows. [1:00:58] — A US aircraft carrier battle group is in the region. Iranian naval forces (described as "not quite McHale's Navy") are creating flashpoints. The Gulf states are quietly nervous about an Israeli/US strike — unsure of Iran's actual defensive capacity. 🇨🇺 Cuba — On the Brink[1:01:51] — Cuba is in crisis: fuel shortages, universities and schools shut, public transport curtailed, the military as the country's biggest employer. Countries urging citizens to leave immediately include Costa Rica, the UK, Ireland, Australia (Smart Traveller: Reconsider Your Need to Travel, raised 12 February), and even Russia — which is operating evacuation flights for ~4,000 citizens. The Jacks ask: is the world ready for mass arrivals in Florida? 📚 One-Hit Wonders in Literature[1:05:51] — Is Harper Lee the greatest one-hit wonder of all time? Jack the Insider pushes back — she wrote Go Set a Watchman too. The social media list of nominees includes: J.D. Salinger (Catcher in the Rye), Mary Shelley (Frankenstein), Margaret Mitchell (Gone with the Wind), John Kennedy Toole (A Confederacy of Dunces), and — the crowd favourite — Francis Scott Key, who wrote the US National Anthem in 12 minutes. Jack the Insider recommends Philip Roth, Joseph Heller, and Grapes of Wrath for those wanting proper American literary deep cuts. 🏏 Sport — T20 World Cup[1:10:49] — Australia are out in the group stage. Beaten by Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. Jack the Insider's post-mortem: the best batsman in the Big Bash wasn't in the original squad, a

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Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists. Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad? Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics. From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style. The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho. Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

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