No Tags

Chal Ravens & Tom Lea

No Tags is a podcast and newsletter from Chal Ravens and Tom Lea chronicling underground music culture. notagspodcast.substack.com

  1. 69: Your favourite DJ is a psyop

    4 jun

    69: Your favourite DJ is a psyop

    Keep honking, piggies: I’m listening to whatever rockslop the algorithm just sicked up for me! So we’ve been circling a certain topic for a while now – in order to be fashionably off-cycle rather than just late to the party, of course – and we’ve finally done enough muck-raking to present you with our red-hot take. It’s verifiable: your favourite DJ is a psyop. We jest, mildly. But why is it so satisfying to point to popular things and call them a psyop? And it’s not just Geese, the perfectly solid rock band that launched a thousand hysterical thinkpieces. Angine de Poitrine? Évidemment. Rita Ora? Innit. But what about the current numerical titans of dance music? Your Josh Bakers, Kettamas, Silva Bumpas and, of course, your Freds Again? What does it take to reach the premier league in the age of algorithm? In this episode we break down the tectonic shifts underway in the game of selling yourself, and how video clips, vlogging, ‘content seeding’ and engineered virality are becoming standard promo tools from the mainstream to the underground. Is your favourite DJ paying low four-figure sums to have someone manufacture a viral moment during their next set? Honestly, they might be. Should No Tags join the party?* Let us know! — *If you do think we should join the party, these things don’t come cheap. You can support the podcast by buying our latest book, or by subscribing to our paid tier for a mere £5 per month. Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h 29 min
  2. 68: Djrum or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Clang

    21 may

    68: Djrum or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Clang

    Why be seamless when you can go KLANGGG? This week’s guest is living proof that doing things wrong, backwards, upside-down or simply not at all can reap creative dividends. We speak, of course, about Djrum. Recorded at our book launch at London’s ICA last December, our conversation with the Oxford-dwelling DJ-producer followed up on the wild acclaim for his 2025 maybe-opus, Under Tangled Silence. The interview starts at 48:00, but before that we debrief on some new music from old favourites. Is the spirit of 2011 still haunting dance music? We couldn’t possibly say. Look out for our third listening session at 180 Studios, to be announced soon! Our second book, No Tags: Conversations on underground music culture Vol. 1 is out now. Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h 46 min
  3. 67: Sheffield, Synth City

    30 abr

    67: Sheffield, Synth City

    Sheffield punches well above its weight when it comes to tunes. From #1 synth-pop hits to underground techno classics, clattering industrial funk to accidental Britpop icons, the Steel City might have produced more brilliant music per capita than any other world metropolis. And yet, no one has published the definitive book on the subject – until now! Daniel Dylan Wray is one of the UK’s best music writers, and his new book Groovy, Laidback and Nasty: The History of Independent Music in Sheffield chronicles the maverick artists, chart invaders, parties, labels, venues and even Christian cults that shaped the city’s musical history. We talked to Dan about why Sheffield wasn’t swept away by punk rock but instead loved Kraftwerk and Wendy Carlos, how Peter Stringfellow became a crucial early mover in Sheffield’s club scene, and why there are no murals of Jarvis Cocker in the city centre. We also heard about the unlikely chain of events that birthed Warp Records, and one of the most important yet undersung ‘80s club nights, Jive Turkey. We also unveil a major expansion of our Rockufiction canon of ‘music films that bend reality’, including Frank Zappa, Daft Punk, Macca and S Club 7. That’ll probably be the final update on Rockufiction, but if you have any burning additions then get them in quick… As ever, if you like what we do on No Tags, please do consider signing up to our paid tier for a mere £5 per month! Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h 56 min
  4. 66: First Quarter Report – the best music of the last three months

    16 abr

    66: First Quarter Report – the best music of the last three months

    The Q1 report is here and the charts are clear: buy underscores. 📈 On this episode of No Tags, we talk through our favourite releases of 2026 so far – not to mention some music that we’re more mixed on but felt like it was worthy of discussion regardless. Before we get into it, on 5th May we’ll be returning to 180 Studios for our second session at their audiophile listening room. Following March’s session with Call Super and Parris, this time we’ll be joined by Al Wootton and Valentina Magaletti, collaborators in Holy Tongue and live bandmates in Moin, to play records from their collections and explore where their musical tastes meet. Tickets are on sale now, it should be a treat! If you discover something you love on this episode, why not send us a tip? We have a paid tier which allows you to support No Tags for £5 a month, and also gives you a discount on our book – which is out now. Discussed on this episode, in order: Maara – Ultra Villain (Naff) Zora Jones – Angel Crisis (Bellyfat) Kim Gordon – PLAY ME (Matador) Mandy, Indiana – URGH (Sacred Bones) Fcukers – Ö (Ninja Tune) 2charm – star scum city (self-released) Slayyyter – WOR$T GIRL IN AMERICA (Columbia) Charli XCX – Wuthering Heights (Atlantic) underscores – U (Mom+Pop) Sade Olutola – Arrow Heart (Rogue Collective) Shy One – Mali (Touching Bass) PACH – The Wake-Up Call (Peach Discs) SY3 – 梦游 Sleepwalker (Music from Memory) Simo Cell & Abdullah Miniawy – Dying is the Internet (Dekmantel UFO) Egg Meat – The most Pathetic poem is small people on fire (Mutualism) Mammo – Lateral (Short Span) Crespi Drum Syndicate – Colada Talk (Cinnamon Disc) Valentina Magaletti & Upsammy - Seismo (PAN) Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h 16 min
  5. 65: The indies fight back! Damon Krukowski on the value of sound

    1 abr

    65: The indies fight back! Damon Krukowski on the value of sound

    We all know what sound is, but are we any good at describing it? This week’s guest is a musician, writer and one of independent music’s wisest observers. Damon Krukowski has been playing in bands since the ‘80s, drumming for dreampop originals Galaxie 500 and, for the past 30 years, fronting Damon & Naomi with his partner Naomi Yang. He’s also written three books about sound and its strange, intangible properties (most recently Why Sound Matters) and he's a proud member of UMAW, a cool young labour union for music workers. It was a privilege to talk to Damon about the full spectrum of sound – from noise pollution and sodcasting to the merch table, from the ‘red herring’ of intellectual property to the hidden value of hanging out backstage. Unsurprisingly he had several excellent movies to recommend to us, including one for all you Coen Brothers fans out there. Before that, we debrief our recent nights out and the last ever weekend at Corsica Studios, which could still be going as far as we know. We also hear your Rockufiction feedback and offer a hot new entry to the canon: Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie. Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h 55 min
  6. 64: A new film canon! Rockufiction

    18 mar

    64: A new film canon! Rockufiction

    So we had another idea for a movie canon. After blinking our way through The Moment – the recent mockumentary about Charli XCX by director Aidan Zamiri – we got thinking about a certain kind of music film that exists between the margins of biopic and rockdoc. Not real, not exactly fake… and all the more incisive for it. We came up with a handful of movies – some of them HIGHLY recommended! – which dramatise rather than document the artist’s status as a ‘star’: their negotiations with fame and celebrity, their discomfort with being the centre of attention, their feelings of being trapped inside the machine. In our conversation about these films – including Pavements, The Nowhere Inn, Spice World, A Hard Day’s Night and Slade in Flame – we think about the irreversible vibe shift that marks 21st century humour, and identify the influence of film and TV comedy, from the Goon Show to Charlie Brooker. The canon is a slim one so far – at least compared to our adventures in Big Beat Cinema, the made-up movie niche coined by Finn and mapped out over two NT episodes and a list last year. But we’ve built a Rockufiction Letterboxd list nonetheless and are all ears for your suggestions. A reminder of the criteria: A film about a musician or band in which they play themselves, generally to comic effect. A blurring of reality and fiction. Not a biopic. Not a documentary. This episode contains some spoilers but not too many. If you need to skip the Charli chat for any reason, it’s from 17:00–29:00. Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h 13 min
  7. 63: ⁠Baltimore is still the engine room of US club music

    9 mar

    63: ⁠Baltimore is still the engine room of US club music

    Some of the most exciting dance music around right now is coming out of Baltimore. Reenergised by a younger generation of artists putting a fresh spin on the Baltimore Club sound, the city is producing stacks of great new records – and we keep hearing dazzled on-the-ground reports from our cool DJ friends (yes, we have them!) about the shows they’ve played there. Kade Young and JIALING are two of the central figures in the city’s new school, known for running events and releasing a stream of club bangers via their label WOE. They had plenty to tell us about why Baltimore is the real engine room of US dance music right now, and why its importance remains undersung. As well as clueing us into the local scene in 2026, they offered an insider perspective on the last 20 years of Baltimore Club. We also managed to record the entire episode without making a joke about The Wire, so well done us. (Come at JIALING, you best not miss.) Before that, for this show’s intro, we offer our recent scene reports: Tom’s trip to see Tony Njoku’s All Our Knives are Always Sharp at the Southbank Centre, and Chal mucking in at the SMUT Press night at the Distillery. We also tackle the elephant in the big room: Fred Again and Thomas Bangalter’s back-to-back at Alexandra Palace. Was this an event for the ages? Should the man behind ‘Club Soda’ be lowering himself to making mash-ups with a bloke with eight hyperlinked family members on Wikipedia? Or are they both in fact nepo baby posh men? Find out inside! Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h 35 min
  8. 62: Lil Internet changed our minds about AI music

    18 feb

    62: Lil Internet changed our minds about AI music

    Taganistas may know Lil Internet from his music videos (Beyoncé, Diplo), his high-concept DJ mixes, or his ever-present voice on Twitter. Since 2017 his main focus has been New Models – a website, podcast and active Discord. But the reason we asked Lil Internet to join us on No Tags is his latest music project – a brand new, rule-based genre he’s calling gencore. Showcased across two mixes released in 2024 and 2025, gencore is completely AI-generated from Udio. More controversially, Lil Internet proposes that gencore marks an evolution – or maybe even the endstate – of the hardcore continuum. Obviously this was catnip to us. We spent a great hour with Lil Internet talking about the AI music landscape, how Udio’s quirks give AI music ‘soul’, moral boundaries and Bandcamp’s AI ban. And for the first 30 minutes of the show, we each pick a Winter Olympics sport, compare our gunmanship, and offer some recommendations – including Otto Benson, 6amsunset and They Are Gutting a Body of Water. We do No Tags for the love, but if you enjoy the show and want to show a little love back, you can do so for £5 per month. Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h 33 min
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No Tags is a podcast and newsletter from Chal Ravens and Tom Lea chronicling underground music culture. notagspodcast.substack.com

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  • Creado por
    Chal Ravens & Tom Lea
  • Años en activo
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodios
    69
  • Clasificación
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    © No Tags
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    No Tags

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