Old Paths Podcast

Michael Spangler and Cody Justice
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Retrieving and applying the historic Reformed faith.

  1. 28 ENE

    Excommunicated for Race Realism: Sam Ketcham

    Summary This episode discusses the trial and excommunication of Sam Ketcham, focusing on the charges against him related to his views on race realism. The conversation explores the trial proceedings, the atmosphere during the trial, the impressions of supporters, and the arguments made by both the prosecution and defense. Key themes include the perceived lack of justice, the ambiguity of the charges, and the broader implications for faith and justice within the church. The conversation delves into the complexities of church dynamics, particularly focusing on the excommunication of Reverend Ketchum from the RPCNA. The speakers discuss the charges against him, the conflation of Liberalism with Christianity, and the implications of egalitarianism within the church. They reflect on the role of church courts, the historical context of current debates, and the need for a return to biblical truths. The discussion culminates in a call for fight within the church and a recognition of the challenges faced by those who uphold the biblical, historic Faith. Takeaways Samuel Ketchum was excommunicated for his views on race realism. The trial proceedings were marked by a lack of solemnity and predetermined outcomes. Supporters felt the trial was unjust and poorly conducted. The prosecution's arguments lacked clear biblical support. Pre-trial motions raised significant concerns about the trial's legitimacy. Witness testimonies were sidelined, limiting the defense's ability to present their case. The atmosphere during the trial was described as light-hearted despite serious charges. The charges against Ketchum were seen as vague and ambiguous. The defense argued that the prosecution failed to substantiate their claims. The trial raised broader questions about justice within the church. The church is facing charges of being against its own progress. There is a conflation of natural inequalities with racism in church discussions. Egalitarianism is viewed as a denial of God's order. Excommunication is seen as a miscarriage of justice. The role of church courts is critical in maintaining doctrinal integrity. Witness testimonies can significantly impact church proceedings. Historical context is essential in understanding current debates. Natural inequalities are acknowledged but often denied in modern discourse. The church must confront its own history to move forward. A call for reform and a return to biblical truths is necessary. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Trial and Excommunication 02:59 Background of Charges and Trial Proceedings 06:11 Impressions from Supporters at the Trial 09:06 Trial Observations and Judicial Conduct 12:12 Prosecution's Arguments and Charges 14:51 Defense and Pre-Trial Motions 17:58 Summary of Prosecution's Claims 20:58 Discussion on Judicial Process and Fairness 23:57 Witness Testimonies and Trial Dynamics 34:41 Witnesses and Their Role in the Trial 41:29 Defense Arguments and Charges Overview 56:44 Excommunication and Its Implications 01:07:45 Compassion vs. Reality in Society 01:09:17 Unequal Distribution of Talents and Abilities 01:10:44 The Impact of IQ on Opportunities 01:12:24 The Role of Truth in Racial Discussions 01:16:10 Historical Context of Racial Contributions 01:18:43 Personal Experiences and Observations 01:23:39 The Debate on Slavery and Its Implications 01:26:16 Reflections on the RPCNA and Church Integrity 01:30:41 The Aftermath of Excommunication 01:34:43 A Call to Action for the Church

    1 h 47 min

  2. 8 ENE

    American Mantle Review (Jan. 2026)

    Summary In this episode of the Old Paths podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice delve into recent articles from American Mantle, discussing the importance of discerning friends from enemies in political discourse, the role of AI in shaping modern strategies, and the challenges of defining American identity. They explore the need for leadership and organization within political movements, particularly focusing on the Middle American Radicals and their potential to challenge the current regime. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of adapting to new technologies while maintaining core principles and the importance of building a cohesive identity within the movement. Highlights Listening is key to discerning true intentions.Political leadership can often disappoint.AI is a tool that can enhance political strategy.Defining American identity is crucial for unity.Leadership is essential for effective organization.Middle America holds potential for political change.Cultural narratives shape political realities.Institutional independence is necessary for growth.Polarization is a reality in modern politics.The future requires new strategies and forms.Chapters 00:00 Introduction to American Mantle and Recent Articles 06:12 Understanding Friends and Enemies in Political Discourse 10:49 Disappointment with Political Leadership 14:22 The Role of Technology in Modern Politics 20:22 AI's Impact on Political Narratives 26:33 The Anthropological Void in American Identity 47:06 Citing Exceptions and Political Identity 49:01 Defining American Identity 52:42 New Forms for a New Era 53:02 The Role of the Vine and Iron 01:03:00 Middle American Radicals and Political Strategy 01:14:40 Confronting the Ruling Class

    1 h 28 min

  3. 12/12/2025

    Reformed Presbyterian Persecution: Interview with Samuel Ketcham

    Summary In this episode of the Old Paths podcast, hosts Michael Spangler and Cody Justice engage with Samuel Ketchum, a minister in the RPCNA, discussing his journey to ministry, the challenges he has faced, particularly regarding race and theology, and the charges brought against him by his presbytery. Ketchum shares his insights on the importance of biblical preaching, the current state of the church, and the implications of his trial set for January 24th. The conversation notes some of the concrete charges brought against Ketcham, emphasizes the need for accountability and truth in ministry, as well as the complexities surrounding race in the church today. Takeaways Samuel Ketchum shares his background and journey to ministry.He discusses the challenges he faced in his early ministry experiences.Ketchum highlights the importance of preaching and its current challenges in the church.The conversation delves into the intersection of race and theology in Ketchum's writings.Ketchum explains the charges brought against him by the RPCNA.He reflects on the implications of these charges for his ministry and the church.The discussion emphasizes the need for biblical fidelity in preaching.Ketchum expresses his desire for a more honest conversation about race in the church.The trial date is set for January 24th, and Ketchum prepares to defend his views.The conversation concludes with a call for accountability in ministry. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background of Samuel Ketcham 04:03 Journey to Ministry and Early Experiences 09:14 Challenges in Ordination and Preaching Philosophy 14:53 The Role of Preaching in the Church Today 19:52 Transitioning Between Denominations and Racial Awareness 25:08 The Impact of Race on Faith and Community 30:06 Current Trial and Charges in the RPCNA 35:46 Understanding the Charges of Sin 43:31 The Role of Scripture in Church Authority 51:40 Critique of Judicial Processes in the Church 57:01 Historical Context of Abolitionism and Its Implications 01:03:23 The Importance of Biblical Foundation in Charges 01:07:43 The Role of Historical Context in Modern Debates 01:10:00 Vows and Commitments in Religious Institutions 01:12:41 Personal Experiences and Reactions to Controversy 01:14:41 The Intersection of Race and Theology 01:18:57 Egalitarianism and Its Challenges 01:20:20 Public Perception and Accountability in Ministry 01:22:01 The Nature of Presbyterian Judicial Processes 01:24:53 The Importance of Honest Discourse in Theology 01:33:07 Next Steps in the Journey of Faith and Accountability Support the work of Old Paths Podcast by donating here to American Mantle.

    1 h 38 min

  4. 11/12/2025

    Marrow 15: The Person of Christ

    Summary In this episode of the Old Paths podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice continue in The Marrow of Theology by William Ames. They delve into the theological concepts surrounding the person of Christ as the mediator and the implications of redemption, discussing William Ames' teachings on restoration, the dual nature of Christ, and the significance of his blood in the context of redemption. The conversation also touches on contemporary controversies regarding Christ's nature and the importance of understanding these doctrines for a robust faith, with an emphasis on the need for careful theological reflection and the application of these truths in the lives of believers. Takeaways Redemption is both accomplished and applied.Christ's work is central to understanding salvation.The mediator stands between God and man.The hypostatic union is a mystery of faith.Redemption emphasizes our ownership by Christ.Christ's blood signifies the high price of redemption.Understanding Christ's dual nature is essential.The communication of properties is a complex issue.Christ's knowledge reflects his dual nature.Our response to Christ's sacrifice should be obedience.Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Updates on American Mantle 03:09 Transition to Restoration and Redemption 11:33 Understanding Redemption and the Redeemer 18:52 The Mediator: Christ's Role in Redemption 29:01 The Hypostatic Union and Its Implications 35:53 Controversies in Christology and Sacramental Theology 38:19 Understanding the Sacramental Language 41:56 Covenant Theology and Christ's Presence 45:36 The Schism Between Lutheran and Reformed Views 47:40 The Nature of Christ's Knowledge 54:10 Theological Reflections on Christ's Dual Nature 01:00:38 Application of Christ's Teachings in Our Lives

    1 h 5 min
  5. Response to Presbycast On Kinism

    30/10/2025

    Response to Presbycast On Kinism

    Summary In this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Michael and Cody respond to a Presbycast episode that critiques kinism and discusses racial egalitarianism within the church. They explore various themes including the nature of church statements on race, the implications of division within the church, and the historical context of racial issues. The conversation delves into theological perspectives on race, the role of nations, and the importance of natural principles in church governance. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the need for a nuanced understanding of race and identity in the context of Christianity, while critiquing the arguments presented by their opponents. Highlights Division in the church is often oversimplified and misattributed.Racial egalitarianism is not universally accepted within the church.The distinction between conversion and naturalization is crucial.Historical context is essential in understanding racial issues.Patriarchy and gender roles are biblically defined and should not be dismissed.Misinterpretations of scripture can lead to false accusations of heresy.Racial identity is significant in the context of the gospel.Political implications of race discussions cannot be ignored.Natural principles should inform church governance and leadership.Cultural heritage and racial identity are important aspects of faith.Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Discussion on Kinism 03:42 Critique of Racial Egalitarianism in the Church 06:36 Understanding Division and Heresy 09:39 The Nature of Church and Nation 12:30 Examining Exceptions in Biblical Contexts 15:29 The Role of Race in Scripture 19:48 Misinterpretations of Racial Identity 23:41 The Unity of Humanity and Race 26:41 Political Implications of Racial Discussions 30:32 The Nature of Race and Morality 34:36 Christ's Racial Identity and Its Significance 38:26 Divine Boundaries and Racial Divisions 42:41 Theological Implications of Kinism 46:55 Critique of Modern Church Practices 50:40 Hospitality and Immigration in the Church 55:12 Jesus and Racial Affection 58:53 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 59:13 Contempt for Misuse of Scripture 01:04:00 Racial Issues and the Gospel 01:06:08 Debating Kinism and Ethno-nationalism 01:08:58 Equivocation on Racial Identity 01:14:18 Responses to Racial Arguments 01:19:42 Historical Context of Racial Discussions 01:25:52 The Role of Race in Church Leadership 01:31:56 Truth and the Future of Racial Discussions 01:40:05 Southern Identity and Historical Context 01:47:21 Gratitude for Racial Heritage 01:52:48 Final Thoughts on Race and Church Keywords Kinism, Presbycast, racial egalitarianism, church division, racial theological implications, racial identity, church governance, natural principles, cultural heritage, church unity

    2 h 2 min

  6. 29/10/2025

    Jude: Grace, Judgment, & Spiritual Sodomy

    In this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Cody and Michael delve into the Epistle of Jude, exploring themes of grace, judgment, and the concept of spiritual sodomy. They discuss the purpose of Jude's letter, the importance of contending for the faith, and the nature of grace as both unmerited favor and enabling power. The conversation highlights biblical examples of judgment, including the Israelites, fallen angels, and the infamous Sodom and Gomorrah, drawing parallels to contemporary Christian living. The hosts emphasize the dangers of idleness and the need for vigilance against sin, urging listeners to actively contend for their faith and flee from influences that undermine their spiritual integrity. Highlights: The main purpose of Jude's letter is to contend for the faith.Turning grace into license to sin is a serious issue.Spiritual sodomy is akin to a fruitless Christian life.Grace is not just unmerited favor; it is enabling power.Biblical examples serve as warnings against ungodliness.Idleness and ease can lead to spiritual decay.Christians must actively fight against sin.Fellowship with those who make light of sin is dangerous.The consequences of sin can be severe and eternal.Contending for the faith requires effort and vigilance.Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jude's Epistle 02:24 Contending for the Faith 05:37 Understanding Spiritual Sodomy 11:08 The Nature of Grace 15:02 Examples of Judgment: Israelites and Angels 19:29 Sodom and Gomorrah: A Case Study 24:26 The Consequences of Idleness 27:25 Applications and Warnings 34:47 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

    47 min

  7. 29/10/2025

    American Mantle Review Oct. 2025

    In this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Michael and Cody discuss various articles published by American Mantle, focusing on themes of political violence, the role of the church, and the necessity of moral integrity within Christian nationalism. They explore the implications of recent events, the challenges facing the right, and the historical context of the Canaanite extermination as a warning for modern nations. The conversation emphasizes the need for repentance and spiritual revival in America, alongside a call for clear leadership and action in the face of political and social challenges. Highlights: We need a new American revolution.Diversity is not a nation's strength; authoritarian rule often follows.The right must learn from past mistakes to avoid repeating them.Political violence may be necessary in today's climate.The church may become a source of persecution for true believers.Involvement in traditional party politics may not yield results.Christian nationalism must embrace moral integrity to succeed.The Canaanite extermination serves as a warning for modern nations.Repentance and spiritual revival are essential for national healing.Political activism can be a form of faith and repentance.Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Overview of American Mantle 02:27 Updates from Sacra Press 04:29 Recent Articles and Their Themes 08:49 Discussion on 'Churning Point USA' 27:15 The State of Party Politics 34:41 Schlieman's Series on Christian Nationalism 47:19 Embracing Ethnonationalism 53:02 The Jewish Question and Palestine 01:01:03 The Need for Clear Leadership 01:04:28 Preparing for Future Tests 01:11:19 Understanding God's Judgment on Nations 01:21:07 Faith, Repentance, and Political Action

    1 h 32 min
  8. The Murder of Iryna Zarutska

    26/09/2025

    The Murder of Iryna Zarutska

    In this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, hosts Cody Justice and Michael Spangler discuss the tragic murder of Iryna Zarutska, exploring the racial dynamics and societal implications surrounding the incident. They delve into theological reflections on murder, the importance of wisdom in addressing racial issues, and the role of language in racial discourse. The conversation emphasizes the need for collective identity among Whites, practical steps for protection, and the moral responsibility towards minorities. They also critique Liberalism's failure to create a harmonious society and call for a revolution to address these pressing issues, while highlighting the spiritual dimensions of justice and repentance. Key Highlights: The murder of Iryna Zarutska highlights racial violence in society.Theological perspectives on murder emphasize the sanctity of life.Racial dynamics complicate perceptions of violence and justice.Wisdom is crucial in addressing racial issues and protecting communities.Language and rhetoric play significant roles in racial discourse.Collective identity is necessary for effective response to racial threats.Understanding the nature of racial conflict is essential for safety.Statistics reveal disparities in crime rates among racial groups.Statistics are not necessary to love and defend your own.Civil rights advocacy must include the rights of Whites.Practical steps are needed for White men to protect their families.Martyrdom may be necessary for revolutionary change in society.White fathers have a duty to educate and protect their families.The church must address racial issues and promote justice.Moral responsibility towards minorities must be balanced with self-preservation.Liberalism has failed to create a harmonious society.Finding like-minded allies is crucial for collective action.Spiritual reflection is necessary for true justice and repentance. Give a monthly amount to support the work of Michael & Cody at American Mantle here. Read / listen to Cody's article on the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the murder of Iryna here.

    1 h 18 min
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Retrieving and applying the historic Reformed faith.

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  • Creado por
    Michael Spangler and Cody Justice
  • Años en activo
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodios
    69
  • Clasificación
    Apto
  • Derechos de autor
    © Michael Spangler and Cody Justice
  • Sitio web del podcast
    Old Paths Podcast

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