Swimming with Allocators

Swimming with Allocators dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. In each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. Follow along and subscribe at swimmingwithallocators.com. See you later, Allocator!

  1. HACE 10 H

    Power Laws, Secondaries, and Staying Consistent: StepStone’s VC Framework

    This week on Swimming with Allocators, Earnest and Alexa chat with Anthony Giambrone, Partner at StepStone Group. Anthony shares his unconventional path from gas station manager and nightclub worker to leading a major global venture allocation platform. The conversation covers his break into investment banking, the scaling of GreenSpring into StepStone, and why relationships, EQ, and consistency across vintages matter more than market timing in venture. Key takeaways include the power-law nature of VC returns, how emerging managers and spinouts can stand out with a real edge and long-term relationship-building, why asset quality matters more than discounts in secondaries, and how AI, liquidity pressures, and longer private company lifecycles are reshaping the next decade of venture capital. Also, Rebecca Stuart, an employment-focused partner at Sidley, explains how she helps venture-backed companies navigate complex employment and co‑founder separations, equity and vesting pitfalls, evolving worker classification and pay transparency laws, and the fast-changing regulatory landscape around AI in hiring and employment decisions. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Anthony’s Background and Humble Beginnings (0:42) Importance of Empathy and Relationships in Venture (4:16) Applying Greenspring/StepStone Experience to Today’s Market (6:15) StepStone Venture Team, AUM, and Global Footprint (8:07) Why You Can’t Time Early Stage Venture (9:38) Vintage Volatility and Power Law in Venture Outcomes (11:23) How Founder Ambition Affects GP and Fund Diligence (14:28) Insider Segment: Co‑Founder Divorce (18:04) Using New Investments to Clean Up Equity and IP (21:43) Employees Demanding Human Review in AI‑Driven Processes (25:43) Fund Slot Constraints and LP Down‑Selection (28:33) Advice for New LPs on Capturing Upper Quartile Returns (31:36) Is Top Quartile Performance Still Good Enough? (33:08) Secondaries Strategy and Asset Quality Over Discounts (34:31) Liquidity Pressures, DPI, and GP‑Led Solutions (38:37) StepStone’s 10‑Year Lifecycle Partner Vision (40:35) StepStone Group is a global private markets firm focused on providing customized investment solutions and advisory and data services to its clients worldwide. The firm’s venture capital and growth equity platform, built on the foundation of Greenspring Associates, manages $25B+ in AUM across primary fund investments, secondaries, and co-investments, as of June 30, 2025. Learn more at www.stepstonegroup.com. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    45 min
  2. 25 MAR

    DDQ: Founders, Fraud & ‘Fake It Till You Make It’

    This week on Swimming with Allocators, it’s time for another discuss, debate, and question (DDQ) episode as Earnest and Alexa riff on founders behaving badly and the cultural and governance failures enabling fraud-like behavior, then dive into how enterprises will actually adopt AI and what that means for the future of SaaS and vertical software. They unpack the rise of GP-led secondaries, strip sales, and mounting impatience around liquidity, using recent market data to explain why secondary activity is accelerating. The conversation shifts to Brendan Baker’s three-tier venture framework (mega, middle, and small funds), where they debate where innovation, desperation, and real differentiation will come from. They explore whether LPs should back first-time fund managers without a traditional track record, what “track record” should really mean, and why softer skills, pattern recognition, and learning velocity matter. They also discuss treating fundraisers like enterprise B2B sales, how to qualify LPs and build authentic GP–LP relationships, and close with a playful “start, bench, cut” on SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic to frame how they think about pre-IPO AI and space bets. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Prediction: 2026 as the Year of Founders Behaving Badly (1:16) Misuse of Startup Funds and Rise in Legal Issues (1:48) Narrative-Driven Investing and Weak Governance in VC (2:28) Enterprise AI Adoption: Rory O’Driscoll’s Five Paths (3:25) Will Big SaaS Survive the “SaaS Apocalypse”? (5:43) LP Liquidity Pressure and GP-Led Secondaries (9:19) Data on Secondary Pricing, Continuation Vehicles, and Strip Sales (12:04) Venture Splitting into Mega, Middle, and Small Funds (15:26) Desperation, Differentiation, and Innovation Across Fund Sizes (17:52) Should LPs Back First-Time Fund Managers Without a Track Record? (21:41) Learning Velocity, Curiosity, Kindness, and Willingness to Schlep (24:49) The Value of Apprenticeship and Seeing Portfolios Over Time (25:50) Game: Start, Bench, Cut – SpaceX, OpenAI, Anthropic (30:16) One Question to Ask a First-Time Fund Manager (34:32) Signs of Strong GP–LP Fit: Informal Contact and Vulnerability (36:48) Closing Remarks and Episode Wrap-Up (37:40) Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    40 min
  3. 20 MAR

    How to Separate Yourself When Everyone Has the Same Deck

    This week on Swimming with Allocators, Earnest and Alexa welcome Zach Ruchman, Shareholder & Managing Director, Private Investments at HB Wealth. Zach shares how his unconventional path through the Middle East, international development, consulting, and BlackRock has helped shape the way he makes decisions under uncertainty and evaluates managers. He talks about why venture requires comfort with long duration and illiquidity, why fund size defines strategy, and how alignment of incentives between GPs and LPs really works. Zach explains HB Wealth’s multi-family office approach to private markets across credit, real estate, private equity, and venture, and stresses that in a crowded VC market, authentic differentiation, deep curiosity, and long-term relationship building still matter more than any tool or trend. Also, Rebecca Stuart of Sidley explains how founders and VCs should think about non‑competes, non‑solicits, and trade secret protection in a multi‑state, remote‑work world, emphasizing practical, enforceable ways to safeguard talent and IP as restrictive covenant law shifts across the U.S. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Zach’s Non-Linear Path and LP as the Best Job in Finance (0:31) Investing Into Uncertainty and the Need for 10x Venture Outcomes (2:33) Fund Size as Strategy and How Cost of Capital Shapes Venture Models (4:44) HB Wealth Overview, AUM, and Focus on Private Markets (7:25) How HB Packages Private Offerings for Different Client Profiles (8:35) Incentive Alignment, Fees, and Why Zach Prefers Smaller Managers (11:09) What True GP-LP Partnership Looks Like Beyond Formal Diligence (12:45) Radical Transparency, Learning Velocity, and Updating Investment Priors (15:07) Full Life Cycle Counsel for Venture Backed Companies (17:29) Non Competes, Regulatory Shifts, and Implications for VC Portfolios (19:31) Non-Solicitation Agreements, Remote Teams, and Multi-State Compliance (22:32) Trade Secrets, IP Assignments, and Layered Protection Strategies (24:59) Differentiation in a World with Thousands of Venture Funds (27:07) Authentic Superpowers, Avoiding Generic YC Adjacent Strategies (32:58) Venture as an Essay Test and the Industry’s Maverick DNA (35:52) What Drives Quick Passes and Alignment Issues for New Funds (39:18) How LPs Triage Email, Say No, and Capacity Constraints on Commitments (41:24) Advice To High Net Worth Families Entering Venture (44:03) Long Term Optimism About Innovation and Private Markets (45:54) HB Wealth is a national independent wealth management firm providing fiduciary, fee-only investment management and financial planning services. With over $28 billion in assets under management and more than 3,700 client relationships nationwide, HB helps families, executives, and entrepreneurs steward their capital with purpose. Learn more at www.hbwealth.com. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    50 min
  4. 11 MAR

    Built for Venture: Problem-Solving Meets People Work

    This week on Swimming with Allocators, Marcia Mitchell joins Earnest and Alexa to trace her path from FF Venture Capital to New York Ventures and now Mesa Lane Capital, a GP-seeding fund focused on emerging managers. She shares how her time in government shaped a broader, more responsible view of innovation and capital allocation, and discusses the increasingly crowded emerging manager landscape and where capital is still being overlooked. Marcia also breaks Mesa Lane’s differentiated model of large anchor checks, follow-on commitments, co-invest pools, no carry at the FoF level, and hands-on support, positioning the firm as a true co-builder. The conversation closes with how parenthood reshaped her approach to focus, boundaries, and investing in people who energize her. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Welcoming Marcia Mitchell to the Show (0:22) Moving Into Public Sector Allocations at New York Ventures (3:39)   Are We Capped Out on Emerging Managers in Today’s Market? (7:33)   How Mesa Lane Differentiates Its Fund of Funds Model (9:49)   Facilitating Direct Relationships Between GPs and LPs (12:07)   How Engaged Are LPs With Direct Deals and Co‑Investments? (13:22)   Radical Transparency and Hands‑On Support in Diligence (14:42)   Shifts in Founder Boards, Equity, and Employment Terms (17:54)   Power Dynamics and “Prenup” Mindset in Founder–Investor Negotiations (19:46)   Drafting Around Founder Entrenchment and Board Deadlock (20:57)   Why Rebecca Joined Sidley and the Firm’s Venture Platform (22:14)   What a Mesa Lane GP Looks Like (24:16)   Industry Maturation, Hedge Fund Parallels, and Co‑Opetition in Venture (26:07)   Back Office Platform, Service Provider Discounts, and AI in Operations (28:46)   How Parenting Changed Marcia’s Perspective and Boundaries as an Investor (30:42)   Prioritization, Structure at Home, and Investing in Energizing People (33:11)   Who Mesa Lane Wants to Hear From: Ideal Fund Size and Stage of GPs (35:46)   Sector Focus, Crypto Caveats, and Thoughts on Solo GPs (37:10)   Mesa Lane Capital is a $300M emerging manager investment platform backing early-stage VCs. The firm makes $20M anchor-style fund commitments and offers operational support across legal, tax, admin, and HR functions. Mesa Lane is not a traditional FoF: they offer access to their LP network and prioritize transparency and value-add. Founded by Scott Sherman (ex-Blackstone, Tiger) and Mark Friedman (hedge fund builder), they blend Wall Street rigor with venture approachability. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    41 min
  5. 4 MAR

    The New Rules of Venture: What Next-Gen LPs Should Know First

    This week on Swimming with Allocators, Earnest and Alexa welcome Iliana Oris Valiente, a F500 corporate executive, independent LP,   and founder of the Capital Decoded program, to explore the evolving landscape of venture capital. Iliana shares insights from her global background, discusses why generalists excel in the AI era, and outlines the challenges next-gen family offices face when entering VC. The conversation also covers the importance of clear investment thesis, trends in emerging markets, and the critical need for trust and education between GPs and LPs. Listeners will gain practical frameworks and actionable advice for navigating today’s rapidly changing investment world. Also, don’t miss Sidley’s Shane Goudey discussing current trends in venture capital fundraising, with an emphasis on where LP investment is coming from and the growing interest in co-investment opportunities. Iliana Oris Valiente, CPA, CA  is an accomplished corporate executive, emerging tech pioneer, board member, author, and global citizen. She is a recognized media figure, having been featured from Bloomberg to The Financial Times, across TV and print.  Iliana is an angel investor, fund LP, and regularly advises family offices on emerging trends. She built Capital Decoded — an investor education program specifically designed to demystify VC as an asset class. Learn more at IlianaOV.com  Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    45 min
  6. 25 FEB

    Inside VenCap’s Data-Driven Playbook for Venture Returns

    This week on Swimming with Allocators, Earnest and Alexa welcome David Clark, CIO at Vencap, who unpacks the realities of venture capital, emphasizing a data-driven approach to understanding returns, the persistent and intensifying “power law” in VC, and why only a small percentage of funds and companies drive outsized results. The discussion covers the challenges of evaluating new managers versus established firms, the nuances of secondary investments, and the critical importance of consistent, top-tier fund performance. Listeners will gain insight into the pitfalls of confirmation bias, the difficulties facing retail investors, and why strategy, transparency, and adaptability are key for long-term VC success. Also don’t miss Rebecca Stuart of Sidley as she explains how unprecedented AI-focused acqui-hires function as talent raids that can bypass standard change-of-control protections. She also outlines legal and structural strategies VCs and startups can use like broadened definitions of change of control, retention and vesting design, and coordinated employment/comp practices, to better protect portfolios and key teams. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Welcoming David to the Show and Previewing Today’s Episode (0:18) David’s Shift From Traditional LP Diligence to Data-Driven Investing (2:48)   How Long Feedback Loops and Unknown Unknowns Shape Venture Outcomes (5:16)   Confirmation Bias, Narratives, and Doing Pre-Meeting Homework on Managers (6:55)   Pattern Recognition and What World-Class Founders Look Like (8:49)   Using Power Laws and Top 1% Companies as the Core LP Filter (10:40)   Why Singles and Doubles Rarely Add Up to Great Venture Funds (13:46)   AI Acqui-Hires, Talent Raids, and Risks to VC Portfolios (17:20)   Deal Structures That Avoid Change of Control and LP Protections (19:04)   Retention Tools, Forfeiture for Competition, and Staggered Vesting Cliffs (20:53)   Democratization of VC, 401(k) Investors, and the Risk of Disappointment (25:22)   Emerging Managers and the Myth of the Middle Class in Venture (30:58)   Venture Secondaries, Premium Pricing, and Why Discounts Can Be Misleading (36:04)   Scope Creep, Platform Expansion, and When LPs Disengage From Big Firms (42:06)   VenCap is one of the longest-running dedicated venture capital fund-of-funds globally, investing in many of the world’s leading VC firms for over three decades. The firm’s strategy emphasizes long-term consistency, deep relationship networks, and concentrated exposure to top-tier venture capital companies across cycles. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    46 min
  7. 31/12/2025 ·  CONTENIDO EXTRA

    SWA’s Best of 2025 (Part 2)

    This week on Swimming with Allocators, Earnest wraps up the “Best of” moments of the year for the podcast. These moments feature insightful conversations with leading voices in venture capital and fund management. Topics include the challenges LPs face in today’s market, strategies for selecting and supporting emerging fund managers, evolving industry trends in fintech, crypto, and AI, and the critical importance of transparency, humility, and strong client relationships. Key takeaways highlight the necessity for a compelling thesis, expert communication, and adaptability in a hyper-competitive market, providing actionable lessons for both established players and new entrants in the venture ecosystem. Don’t miss the top moments from the show this year!  Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Season Highlights and the Best Of Countdown (0:34) Reflections on Venture Capital Lessons and Year-End Energy (3:45) Laura Thompson and Her Impact on LP Transparency (7:37) Challenges of Fund Underwriting and the Importance of Reference Work (11:21) Trends in Fintech, AI, Crypto, and Their Effect on Manager Selection (15:12) How to Approach Reserves and Portfolio Construction (18:55) The Difficulties and Opportunities for Emerging Managers Today (22:41) Capital Formation Insights With Guest Megan Reynolds (26:25) Why Client Experience Is as Important as Fund Performance (30:10) Industry Institutionalization, Reporting, and Relationship Trends (33:57) The Evolving Retail LP Market and the Future of Venture Access (37:41) What Makes Great Emerging Managers and Fund Builders Stand Out (41:25) Lessons Learned, Teamwork in Investing, and Season Wrap-Up (45:12) Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    53 min
  8. 24/12/2025 ·  CONTENIDO EXTRA

    SWA’s Best of 2025 (Part 1)

    This week on Swimming with Allocators, it’s a bonus episode as Earnest talks about the "Best of Season Three" on the show, highlighting memorable moments and insights from the year’s most popular shows. Topics include building intentionally diverse venture portfolios, the value of connecting distinct networks in the VC space, and innovative approaches to GP seeding and strategic partnerships for fund managers. Key takeaways for listeners are the importance of focusing on quality and flexibility over rigid investment categories, embracing discomfort to foster impactful professional connections, and looking beyond the largest funds to find unique opportunities and generate true alpha in venture capital. Don’t miss a look back at some of the best moments on the podcast in 2025. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Welcome and Introduction to the Best Of Episode (0:02) Honorable Mention: Joshua Berkowitz on Venture Portfolios (3:43) Embracing “A Mess by Design” in Portfolio Strategy (4:03) Kevin and Raudline on Network Building and Connectivity (9:41) The Value of Bridging Networks and Network Effects (12:36) Capital Concentration and Middle-Market Allocators (14:33) Trends in Venture Capital for 2025 and Beyond (17:35) Jason Howard on GP Seeding and Strategic Partnerships (22:25) Partnership Benefits and Advisor Roles for GPs (27:02) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (35:57) Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    40 min

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Swimming with Allocators dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. In each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. Follow along and subscribe at swimmingwithallocators.com. See you later, Allocator!

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