The Human Protocol

Mykel Salomon

The Human Protocol Podcast is about staying human while building the future. Hosted by Mykel Salomon, each weekly episode explores the intersection of technology, leadership, and purpose — from AI transformation and innovation to the personal stories of the people shaping it all. Through honest conversations with founders, thinkers, and builders, we uncover how values, meaning, and impact endure in a world being rewritten by code. Whether you’re leading in tech, navigating change, or simply curious about the human side of progress, this is your space to reconnect with what truly matters.

  1. EPISODIO 1

    S2E1 - Turning On Machines: What AI Adoption Really Requires from Today’s Leaders w/ Zac Engler

    Summary In this episode of The Human Protocol, host Mykel Salomon engages with Zach Engler, Chief AI Officer at C4 Technical Services, to discuss the transformative impact of AI on leadership, work, and society. They explore the importance of understanding AI, the need for self-reflection, and the future of work in an AI-driven world. Zach shares insights from his journey in AI, the trifurcation of work, and the role of agentic thinking in adapting to new technologies. The conversation emphasizes the importance of preparing organizations for AI, the implications for government policy, and the need for individuals to embrace change and self-discovery in the face of rapid technological advancement. Takeaways AI is not replacing humans, but changing the nature of leadership. Understanding AI is crucial for effective leadership in the modern era. Self-reflection is essential to navigate the impact of AI on personal and professional life. The future of work will involve a trifurcation of tasks between AI, humans, and a combination of both. Organizations must adopt a crawl, walk, run approach to AI implementation. The societal impact of AI will be profound, affecting all sectors of work. Agentic thinking will be vital as AI becomes more autonomous. Governments need to consider ethical implications in AI development and deployment. Individuals should focus on their identity beyond their job roles in an AI-driven world. The future will require a balance between technology and preserving human culture. Chapters 00:00 Navigating the AI Era: Leadership Challenges 02:54 Zach Engler: A Personal Journey into AI 06:06 The Evolution of AI: From Concept to Reality 09:05 AI's Impact on Work, Life, and Relationships 11:57 The Power of Agency in AI Development 14:49 Agentic Thinking: The Future of Work 17:50 Trifurcation of Work: AI, Humans, and Collaboration 20:56 Preparing for the AI-Driven Future 23:47 The Race for AI Supercomputing 26:56 The Future of AI: Predictions and Possibilities 33:53 The Importance of AI Leadership 39:16 Navigating the AI Landscape 42:29 Turning On Machines: A Historical Perspective 51:53 Embracing AI: Messages for Individuals and Organizations 58:28 The Future of AI and Humanity

    58 min
  2. EPISODIO 2

    S2E2 - Choose To Be Your Own Champion w/ Dorice Horenstein

    Summary In this episode of The Human Protocol, host Mykel Salomon and guest Dorice Horenstein discuss the importance of being your own champion in a world filled with stress and burnout. They explore the concept of positive intelligence, the need for balance in life, and the impact of social media on self-perception. Dorice shares her journey from education to becoming a global thought leader, emphasizing the significance of inner strength and values. The conversation highlights the necessity of empathy, connection, and community in navigating the challenges of modern life. Takeaways The greatest strength is showing up fully human. Choosing to be your own champion is essential today. AI transforms tasks, not humanity itself. Authentic intelligence cannot be replaced by AI. Change comes from within, not from external forces. Balance in life is crucial for well-being. Social media can distort self-perception. Embracing imperfection leads to personal growth. Positive intelligence is a daily practice. Community-driven futures require empathy and connection. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Human Protocol 02:14 Dorice Horenstein's Journey 05:10 The Importance of Being Your Own Champion 09:15 Finding Inner Values and Strength 09:19 Balancing Life's Challenges 10:49 The Role of Social Media in Self-Perception 12:13 The Concept of Positive Intelligence 13:51 Daily Practices for a Balanced Life 14:11 Understanding the Choose Framework 15:03 Maximizing Human Potential 15:47 The AIM to Core Framework 16:44 The Need for Empathy and Connection 19:44 Looking Towards the Future

    51 min
  3. EPISODIO 3

    S2E3 - The Story of Support Driven and the Power of Community in the Age of AI w/ Scott Tran

    Takeaways Community is where we become, not just belong. Support Driven started as a podcast to connect support professionals. Building a community is about serving its members, not the other way around. AI is changing customer support, creating both challenges and opportunities. Relationships are key to business success, not just the product. Quality over quantity is essential in community building. The best way to grow a community is one person at a time. Support Driven is a space for people to help each other, regardless of their tools. The legacy of Support Driven is about fostering human connections. Navigating the future requires balancing technology with human relationships. Summary In this episode of The Human Protocol Podcast, host Mykel Salomon speaks with Scott Tran, founder of Support Driven, a community for support professionals. They discuss the importance of community in the age of AI, the journey of building Support Driven, and the challenges and opportunities presented by technology. Scott shares insights on fostering relationships, the impact of AI on customer support, and advice for those looking to build their own communities. The conversation emphasizes the value of human connections and the legacy of creating spaces where people can help each other. Chapters 00:00 The Essence of Community 03:58 The Birth of Support Driven 11:54 Navigating Growth and Challenges 14:30 The Impact of AI on Customer Support 21:22 Building Relationships in Business 28:59 Navigating the Noise of AI Content 31:26 The Role of Community in Job Searching 34:37 Building Relationships in Support-Driven Communities 36:12 Advice for Aspiring Community Builders 38:22 Recognizing the Value of Community Growth 39:24 Sustaining Community Through Conferences 41:12 The Importance of Location for Community Events 42:57 Future Plans for European Conferences 46:11 Legacy and Independence of Support Driven 50:52 Creating a Sustainable Community Garden 54:10 Embracing Change with AI

    45 min
  4. EPISODIO 4

    S2E4 - Your Story is the Strategy: Leadership Lessons for the AI Era w/ Danny Brassell

    Summary In this episode of The Human Protocol Podcast, host Mykel Salomon engages with Danny Brassell, a seasoned speaker and educator, discussing the importance of storytelling in the age of AI. They explore how personal narratives can create authentic connections, the significance of reading in leadership, and strategies for effective public speaking. Danny shares his journey, insights on converting presentations into sales, and the potential of AI while emphasizing the need for human connection. The conversation concludes with advice for embracing life's journey and the power of storytelling. Takeaways Your story is your greatest differentiator in a world flooded with AI-generated content. Clarity about your audience and the problem you solve is crucial for effective communication. Connecting with your audience through relatability and authenticity is key to impactful presentations. Sharing failures can create a deeper connection with your audience than sharing successes. Reading widely can transform your thinking and enhance your leadership skills. Public speaking nerves can be managed through practice and preparation. Effective presentations should address both logical and emotional needs of the audience. AI presents both opportunities and challenges; it's essential to focus on authentic human connections. The journey to success is rarely linear; embrace the pivots and learn from them. Your audience genuinely wants you to succeed; leverage that energy in your presentations. Chapters 00:00 The Power of Storytelling in the Age of AI 01:49 Danny Brassell: A Journey of Pivots and Lessons Learned 04:16 Crafting Compelling Presentations: The Five C's Framework 08:34 Authentic Connection: The Human Element in Storytelling 14:34 AI vs. Authentic Intelligence: The Importance of Human Connection 16:44 The Transformative Power of Reading for Leaders 24:30 Embracing the Stage: The Thrill of Public Speaking 27:05 Converting Speaking into Sales: The Art of Connection 29:09 Understanding Audience Dynamics in Presentations 32:29 Crafting Compelling Stories for Impact 34:38 The Art of Engaging Presentations 37:28 Embracing Vulnerability in Public Speaking 39:12 The Journey of Continuous Improvement 45:26 The Power of Storytelling in Connection 48:00 AI: Opportunities and Concerns 50:48 Advice for the Next Generation

    51 min
  5. EPISODIO 5

    S2E5 - AI That Ships: From Proof-of-Concept to Production w/ Ian P Cook

    Takeaways AI projects fail due to poor problem definition, not technology. Clear problem specifications are crucial for AI success. Documentation and requirements are essential for effective AI solutions. Iterative development allows for learning from failures. AI can significantly improve processes when applied correctly. Understanding hallucinations in AI is vital for trust. Regulation is necessary to ensure safe AI practices. Leaders must embrace AI with a bottom-up approach. Experimentation is key to finding effective AI solutions. AI should enhance human roles, not replace them. Summary In this episode of the Human Protocol Podcast, host Mykel Salomon and guest Ian Cook discuss the realities of implementing AI in business. They explore the common pitfalls of AI projects, emphasizing the importance of clearly defined problems and thorough documentation. The conversation highlights the iterative nature of AI development, the significance of learning from failures, and the need for regulatory frameworks to ensure safe AI practices. Cook shares insights from his experience in the industry, advocating for a bottom-up approach to AI adoption that empowers teams and enhances human roles rather than replacing them. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI in Business 03:12 Understanding the Hype Cycle of AI 11:33 Narrowing Focus for Successful AI Projects 18:09 Case Study: AI in Insurance Underwriting 21:04 Addressing Hallucinations in AI Models 29:10 Defining Success in AI Implementation 31:47 Managing Expectations and Trade-offs 35:10 The Role of Leadership in AI Adoption 37:54 Bottom-Up Approach to AI Integration 41:23 Shifting Mindsets for AI Success 46:21 Encouraging Experimentation in AI Development 48:54 The Need for Regulation in AI 54:05 Advice for Future Generations in AI

    56 min
  6. EPISODIO 6

    S2E6 - Rethinking Career Growth: Beyond Titles and Job Descriptions w/ Carlee Wolfe

    Summary In this episode of The Human Protocol, host Mykel Salomon and guest Carly Wolfe explore the evolving landscape of career growth in the age of AI. They discuss the shift from traditional career ladders to a more fluid understanding of professional development, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, clarity, and confidence. Carly shares insights on how leaders can foster a human-centered approach in their organizations while navigating the complexities of AI and its impact on hiring and talent management. The conversation highlights the need for individuals to redefine their growth trajectories beyond titles and to embrace problem-solving as a core competency in their careers. Takeaways The traditional career ladder is phasing away. Curiosity is essential for personal and professional growth. Development is about becoming your true self. AI is reshaping work but not identity. Finding clarity amidst noise is crucial. Leaders must foster a culture of learning and curiosity. Problem-solving is the future of work. Human-centered leadership is vital in the AI era. Growth should focus on value added, not just titles. Everyone has a responsibility to ensure inclusivity in the workplace. Chapters 00:00 The Evolving Landscape of Career Growth 05:04 Understanding Personal and Professional Growth 11:22 Finding Clarity in the Messy Middle 15:50 The Disruption of Traditional Career Paths 20:02 Embracing Problem-Solving Mindsets 26:11 The Three Cs: Clarity, Confidence, and Curiosity 27:07 The Power of Curiosity in Career Development 34:16 Navigating AI in Recruitment 42:17 Rethinking Growth in the AI Era 49:53 Humanity's Role in Tomorrow's Workplaces

    50 min
  7. EPISODIO 7

    S2E7 - Finding Healing Beyond Conventional Therapy: A Veteran's Journey of Resilience w/ Rob Green

    Introduction: In a world where mental health issues are increasingly recognized, the search for effective healing methods remains a personal and often daunting journey. This conversation delves into the inspiring story of Rob Green, a US Navy veteran who transformed his life after facing unimaginable trauma and the limitations of traditional mental health care. Through unconventional methods and deep self-discovery, Rob found healing in the heart of nature, proving that recovery is not only possible but can lead to profound personal growth. Main Content: 1. The Breaking Point In 2013, Rob lost his father to suicide while he was on a humanitarian mission in the Philippines. This devastating event was compounded by his struggle with PTSD, which escalated until 2015 when Rob reached a breaking point. As he described, "It was like the camel with the legs wobbling, trying to hold that straw that finally broke his back." He found himself trapped in a cycle of substance abuse and emotional turmoil, desperately seeking help but feeling hopeless. 2. The Limitations of Conventional Help After his suicide attempt, Rob turned to the Department of Veterans Affairs for support. He faced long wait times and a system that often prioritized medication over genuine healing strategies. "I was just thinking, every time I come back to this guy, I get another medication," he recounted. The disconnect between his mental state and physical well-being became apparent, leading him to question the effectiveness of the treatment he was receiving. 3. The Search for Alternatives Realizing that conventional methods were failing him, Rob embarked on a personal healing journey. He began researching alternative therapies, which led him to practices like forest therapy, also known as Shinrin-yoku. This Japanese practice encourages individuals to immerse themselves in nature, unplug from technology, and reconnect with their surroundings. Rob found solace in the forests, stating, "I started to be really present in my body without any mental inputs of stuff." 4. Embracing Nature and Community Rob's journey took him to the jungles of the Philippines, where he lived off-grid among tribal communities. This experience was transformative, allowing him to learn from the Atis people and engage deeply with nature. "I found doing that... I started to unpack stuff," he shared. The simplicity of life in the jungle provided him with a new perspective on trauma and healing. 5. The Power of Presence Throughout his journey, Rob emphasized the importance of presence in the healing process. Technology, while beneficial in many ways, often distracts us from what truly matters—our connection to ourselves and the world around us. "We're in a world now where we're always connected, which has a lot of benefits and convenience, but it's not always good for us," he noted. By stepping away from the noise of daily life, Rob discovered a path to genuine healing and self-acceptance. Conclusion: Key Takeaways Rob Green's journey is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the importance of seeking unconventional paths to healing. His story encourages those struggling with mental health issues to explore various options beyond traditional therapy, emphasizing that recovery is possible through self-discovery and connection with nature. In a world that often prioritizes speed and convenience, Rob's experience reminds us to slow down, embrace presence, and find healing in our surroundings. Tags: Mental Health, PTSD, Healing Journey, Alternative Therapy, Forest Bathing, Nature Therapy, Resilience, Veteran Support, Emotional Wellness, Mindfulness.

    55 min
  8. EPISODIO 8

    S2E8 - Redefining Success: How Young Entrepreneurs Are Shaping the Future with AI w/ Drew Carmichael

    Introduction: In today's rapidly evolving business landscape, traditional notions of experience and credibility are being challenged. With the rise of AI and innovative technologies, a new generation of leaders is emerging, unafraid to disrupt the status quo. In this episode of The Human Protocol, host MYkel Salomon speaks with Drew Carmichael, a young entrepreneur who is redefining success and showcasing how youth can be an asset in the world of business. Main Content: 1. The Shift in Perception of Experience Drew Carmichael, who started his journey in e-commerce at a young age, emphasizes that experience is no longer solely measured in years. "The real question isn't how young you are. It is how intentional you are," he states. This highlights a significant shift: younger generations, equipped with fresh perspectives and adaptability, are proving that age does not dictate capability. 2. Building Credibility in a Competitive Space Drew candidly shares his struggle to gain credibility as a young entrepreneur in a room full of seasoned business owners. He recounts how his family's history of resilience, including escaping a concentration camp, fueled his determination to succeed. His story is a testament to the idea that regardless of age, perseverance and authenticity can lead to trust and respect in business. 3. Embracing Failure as a Learning Tool Drew’s entrepreneurial journey has been filled with both successes and failures, from selling collectibles in school to navigating the complexities of Amazon’s marketplace. He reflects, "I've failed so, so many times, but along the way, I've had to learn." This mentality of viewing failure as a stepping stone rather than a setback is critical for any entrepreneur. 4. The Role of AI in Business Modernization AI has become a game-changer for Drew as he scales e-commerce stores. He discusses how young entrepreneurs leverage AI to enhance their business processes and adapt to market demands. Drew notes that it’s not just about having access to tools, but about designing systems that maintain trust and efficiency. 5. The Importance of Human Connection In an era where technology often replaces human interaction, Drew emphasizes the value of genuine communication. He shares a pivotal moment when he shifted from formal communication to a more relaxed approach with clients, which led to better results. "People just want to be treated like humans in the end," he explains, underscoring the importance of building relationships in business. 6. The Future of Entrepreneurship As Drew looks to the future, he recognizes the challenges of entrepreneurship but remains optimistic. He believes that young entrepreneurs have the advantage of flexibility and creativity, allowing them to adapt quickly to changes in the market. His journey serves as inspiration for others looking to carve their path in the business world. Conclusion: Drew Carmichael’s story is a powerful reminder that age is just a number in the realm of entrepreneurship. With the right mindset, a willingness to learn, and the ability to adapt, young entrepreneurs are not only capable but are also redefining what it means to be successful in today's world. The key takeaways from this episode include the importance of intentionality, the value of human connection, and the transformative power of technology in business. #Entrepreneurship #YoungLeaders #AI #BusinessSuccess #Ecommerce #HumanConnection #Credibility #Innovation #Failure #Motivation

    1 h 3 min
  9. EPISODIO 9

    S2E9 - Beyond Virality: What It Really Takes to Build Apps That Last w/ Jonathan Maxim

    Title: Building Lasting Success in the AI Era: Insights from Jonathan Maxim Introduction: In the rapidly evolving world of technology, particularly in the realm of artificial intelligence, the allure of going viral can be captivating for founders. However, as Jonathan Maxim emphasizes in his recent podcast with Mykel Salomon, the true key to success lies not in chasing fleeting trends but in building sustainable products that genuinely solve problems. This blog post delves into the invaluable insights shared during the podcast, offering a roadmap for founders looking to create impactful applications. Main Content: 1. The Landscape of App Development In today’s market, launching an app has become remarkably accessible. Jonathan Maxim, known as the "app launch guy," has guided the launch of over 300 apps since 2014. He underscores the importance of establishing a robust foundation—a well-developed product—before focusing on marketing and virality. Founders must prioritize building a product that resonates with users and addresses their needs, as this forms the bedrock for successful scaling. 2. Understanding Virality vs. Engagement Many entrepreneurs equate virality with success, often overlooking the critical distinction between views and meaningful engagement. As Jonathan points out, achieving a million views on social media does not guarantee a significant number of downloads or active users. It’s essential to focus on real metrics—downloads and user engagement—rather than vanity metrics that do not translate into success. The goal should be to create a product that users find valuable enough to share organically. 3. The Engineering of Growth Jonathan advocates for an engineered approach to virality, which involves having a referral component built into the app. This could mean unlocking features or offering discounts when users share the app with friends. By creating logical incentives for users to promote the app, founders can foster a self-sustaining growth cycle. This systematic approach allows for a more predictable and scalable business model. 4. The Role of Advertising While organic growth is vital, Jonathan acknowledges the role of advertising in reaching the crucial first 10,000 users. This initial user base provides valuable data that can inform product development and monetization strategies. Founders should leverage ads to kickstart their user acquisition efforts but should also integrate organic growth tactics to create a balanced marketing strategy that complements itself. 5. The Importance of Focus One of the biggest challenges founders face is the temptation to tackle multiple aspects of their business simultaneously. Jonathan emphasizes the importance of focusing on one core area at a time, whether it be product development, marketing, or sales. This focused approach not only prevents overwhelm but also leads to more significant progress in each area. Conclusion: Key Takeaways Building a successful app in the AI era requires a strategic mindset and a focus on sustainable growth. As Jonathan Maxim illustrates, the journey begins with a solid product, followed by the development of a growth engine that prioritizes meaningful user engagement over mere virality. By understanding the dynamics of user acquisition, leveraging both paid and organic strategies, and maintaining a focused approach, founders can create lasting impact in the tech landscape. Remember, success is not just about the quick win; it’s about building something that stands the test of time. #AppDevelopment #UserEngagement #SustainableGrowth #AITechnology #StartupInsights #MarketingStrategies #FounderAdvice #Virality #ReferralMarketing

    56 min

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The Human Protocol Podcast is about staying human while building the future. Hosted by Mykel Salomon, each weekly episode explores the intersection of technology, leadership, and purpose — from AI transformation and innovation to the personal stories of the people shaping it all. Through honest conversations with founders, thinkers, and builders, we uncover how values, meaning, and impact endure in a world being rewritten by code. Whether you’re leading in tech, navigating change, or simply curious about the human side of progress, this is your space to reconnect with what truly matters.

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