LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher In this FINAL episode, we close out Jon’s story the way any hero’s arc should end: with Jon having faced his Dark Night of the Soul, now ready to change. He’s always wanted safety, and controlled people to get that safety. In this last chapter, he finds a better way. THIS IS THE FINAL EPISODE OF THE IMPOSSIBLE MAN PODCAST. Be sure to subscribe below so you don’t miss future updates on the project! REMEMBER: Although the podcast is over, the podcast existed in the first place so tease the larger project we’re working on together: Jon’s book, which may or may not be called The Impossible Man. Be sure to subscribe at JohnnyBTruant.com so we can let you know when the book is finish! TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS: NOTE: The transcript below was generated by AI and has not been edited. Accordingly, some things below are a little weird … but you’re smart, so I’m confident you can figure it out. SPEAKER A As they drained my control, it let out and made visible who I really was. SPEAKER B And who was that? SPEAKER A An absolute control freak. The worst they had ever seen in 60 years. SPEAKER B Welcome to The Impossible Man, the true story of how the inability to move allowed one person to tradehis humanity for ODS defying superpowers and how he clawed his way back. Hey, everybody, andwelcome to the final episode of The Impossible Man. The last episode was pretty rough, but that is parfor the course before the hero learns the lesson and ascends from the darkness. And that's ultimatelywhat we're going to be covering this episode. Remember, the entire arc for John was a journey, basicallyfrom the need for control, to trust and faith. And we're going to cover that in this episode. He needed tobe safe, and this is how he attempted to get it. So let's begin with this final episode of The ImpossibleMan. All right, so when we last left off, you were in a very dark place. We heard the story of this brutalrape and what it did to both hummingbird your girlfriend and to your relationship and then to you. Sothat's where we're starting this as we finish this overview of your story. So I assume that the relationshipfell apart and you broke up and you were this broken person. Is that where we began? SPEAKER A More or less. That's where. So even though she realized what she saw and experienced wasn't real, shestill remembered it and she still had the trauma from her not real experiences. She knew how illogical thatwas, but it doesn't matter. She experienced it. And that trauma caused her intense anxiety even to bearound me. SPEAKER B This is a little like if somebody wakes up from a bad dream and is mad at you because of something thathappened in the dream, but it didn't actually happen, but that they still feel that way for a while. And itsounds like even if intellectually, she understood. But she was having this emotional memory of youhunting down and killing the people that she loved. SPEAKER A Is that correct? Yeah. Her experiences where she saw me torture and kill people she had loved or to bemore accurate, to order them. SPEAKER B Tortured and killed, did she go to therapy around that? SPEAKER A Oh, yeah, lots and lots of therapy. And she knew by the end of it, she had reached a point to where shehad made clear dividing lines about what was real, what wasn't. But all of that trauma was still with her.And she told me, I love you with every molecule in my body, but if I stay with you, I feel like I'm nevergoing to heal and I need to move on. You need to move on. I'm going to move and try to restart mycareer. And if you love me, you will never come looking for me. Wow. SPEAKER B So throughout this story, you've been bulletproof and confident and sure that you could do anyimpossible thing that was put in front of you. How much of a hit did that take? SPEAKER A During this, it was the only time in my life that I couldn't get out of bed, that I didn't want to work. I didn'twant to see anyone. I wept all day, every day, for months. I was completely broken. And I started reachingout to a lot of girls, and even though I was a complete mess, not tried to date them, but just try to sleepwith them. And in the span of three months, I probably slept with twelve girls. One of them was a pornstar. I still had all of my old skills, except I now had no filter. I didn't do anything to harm any of thosegirls. I never lied to them. I told them I was not looking for a relationship. I was just looking for sex. And,guys, it'll shock you. There are a lot of women out there that are totally okay. What they want is you, to behonest about it. At the same time, it wasn't healthy at all. And eventually, a mutual friend of ours, DavidGonzalez, I was telling him about my life, and he just said, John, this isn't you, man. SPEAKER B I'm assuming that you had some degree of that control tendency that had loosened up a little bit whileyou were with hummingbird. Did it all come slamming back? Was there this almost vindicated feeling of,you know what? I was right all along. I shouldn't have relaxed my control. I should have tried to stay safe. SPEAKER A Sleeping with other girls was about control, because my objective was to sleep with them. And I'm notsaying this is good. I was in a dark time in my life. My objective was to sleep with them on the very firstdate. And so it was, how many girls can I sleep with on the very first date? SPEAKER B And you applied, I assume, all the same sort of impossible strategies that you've had all along, that sameforce of. SPEAKER A Will to my credit. Like I said, I was never dishonest. By the way, this is another secret to anyone, any kindof dating, to tell the other person exactly what you want. I would tell them on the very first day, this isexactly what I want. Are you down for that? And about third of the women said, no way, and that was theend of the date. The other two thirds of the women said, Maybe. Let's keep talking. SPEAKER B This is through, like, dating apps? SPEAKER A No, this is in person. SPEAKER B So you were still getting out because this was pandemic times, right? This was, like, 2021, something likethat? SPEAKER A It was right before it. So, yeah, I was attempting to feel some sort of control. By how many women could Iget to sleep with me over the span of a few hours while being completely, 100% honest. I would even tellthem about Comingbird. I wasn't hiding anything. SPEAKER B Well, so control was a strategy for you to feel safe. So did you feel safe at all? SPEAKER A No. SPEAKER B Even though you were controlling everything, did you just keep trying to ramp up the control in an effort tofeel that again? SPEAKER A Yeah, I think there was some of that. I was crucially unaware at the time, but I would say yes. SPEAKER B So David was the one who saw this. You were not going to see it on your own, is that correct? At least notat this time? SPEAKER A Yeah, he came to me. He knew about the breakup and everything that has happened with comingbird andhe knew I was messed up. But then he started to see all of this and he told me, rather than do what you'redoing, just, is it helping? And I said no. He said, well, would you be open to a different approach? And Isaid yes. SPEAKER B So you didn't resist? You didn't tell him he was crazy, that he didn't know what he was talking about, anyof that? SPEAKER A No. And it's because he was very close friend. He had already earned my trust. I knew he had my bestinterests at heart. And he said, there's a group, invitation only group of guys who are all very successful toget together and they talk about their problems. There are no therapists, it's just a group of guys. But it's areally cool group. SPEAKER B Was it that simple? Was it literally just a group of guys who just decided that they needed this supportnetwork? SPEAKER A What I learned when I went there is that there's a movement among some men that have realized thatmen have become emotionally stunted and that it causes all sorts of problems in our lives. And there aregroups around this. Like Lionheart is one of those groups. I never went to Lionheart, but this is very similarprocess. And the idea is that we've been through trauma, learned all the wrong lessons, and now we can'tseem to progress forward as men because we're no longer in control. SPEAKER B Trauma is so that idea of learning all the wrong lessons is something that we talked briefly about before.Can you give me an example of what that means, to go through trauma and learn all the wrong lessons? SPEAKER A Yeah. So after my stepfather, I learned if I'm not in charge, no one is safe. With hummingbird, I think thelesson I learned was, my life is over, it's time to die. SPEAKER B So you were learning that lesson subconsciously. And then when David came in, I assumed that therewas some degree of, well, this person sees it differently and I trust him and he cares about me. Was therethat kind of thing? SPEAKER A Yeah. And he was asking me to go hang out with some guys and he just said, try it and see what youthink. SPEAKER B And so I did what did you think? SPEAKER A I wept like a baby. Told them the story, and each man in the group just gave me a hug. They didn't sayanything. They didn't judge me. I did the same for them. And I noticed that I didn't feel alone. I still feltlike shit, but I didn't feel alone. SPEAKER B How long did you attend that group? SPEAKER A Over a year. Every week. I never missed a meeting. SPEAKER B How did that end? Did you just sort of get to the point where you were like, okay, I'm ready to move on?Thank you. SPEAKER A Eventually, the other members of the group started to move, and it just sort of dwindled. And by thatpoint, I'd already spent hundreds of hours, not 1000 hours, talking to these men. And I'd started tobecome much more in touch with my emotions. One of the exercises they gave beginning members wasto set a 15 minutes alarm on your watch that goes off ev