Relai Bitcoin Podcast

Relai

In the Relai Bitcoin Podcast we discuss the latest trends and developments in the world of Bitcoin. Relai CEO Julian Liniger interviews leading Bitcoin experts to answer some of the industry’s most pressing questions with the aim to educate listers about the world’s leading digital currency. Suchst du den Podcast auf Deutsch? Klick hier: https://anchor.fm/relai-dach

  1. Exploring Bitcoin's Global Impact, with Stephan Livera | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #113

    24/12/2025

    Exploring Bitcoin's Global Impact, with Stephan Livera | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #113

    Stephan Livera is the host of the Stephan Livera Podcast and one of the most prominent Bitcoin podcasters in the space. He's also actively advising Bitcoin companies and is always a keen voice for Bitcoin debates on X.  In this conversation with Relai CEO, Julian Liniger, Stephan discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to move to Dubai, how the MENA region is growing, when Bitcoin will become a medium of exchange, and how macro is influencing Bitcoin today.  You can follow Stephan on X: https://x.com/stephanlivera  And subscribe to his podcast here: https://stephanlivera.com/  — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:30 - Stephan's journey into Bitcoin 05:00 - Experiences in Switzerland 06:11 - Bitcoin Adoption in Japan 09:13 - Dubai, the MENA region, and Bitcoin 15:00 - The tensions between Bitcoin and TradFi 17:57 - Medium of exchange adoption 20:00 - Institutional adoption and Bitcoin 23:51 - Rebalancing Bitcoin holdings 27:30 - Market Sentiment and price fluctuations 35:13 - Macro factors influencing Bitcoin's adoption 38:40 - Current landscape of Bitcoin treasury companies 43:00 - Outlook and Stephan's Bitcoin allocation — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format?  🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066  🎧Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44  -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. #Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation

    47 min
  2. The Renewable Bitcoin Mining Revolution, with Kent Halliburton | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #109

    26/11/2025

    The Renewable Bitcoin Mining Revolution, with Kent Halliburton | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #109

    Kent Halliburton is the CEO and co-founder of Sazmining. He has a background in the energy sector, especially the solar industry, and, out of curiosity, was introduced to Bitcoin. These days, he's building data centers for miners worldwide and working hard to make Bitcoin available to everyone.  In this conversation with Relai's Head of Communications, Joël Kai Lenz, Kent discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he got started in the mining industry, what Sazmining stands for, how renewable energy will transform the industry, and what to expect in the future.  You can follow Kent on X: https://x.com/khalliburton  Visit Sazmining’s website here: https://www.sazmining.com/  — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:54 - The vision of Sazmining 05:57 - Renewable energy and mining 12:06 - Innovative ideas to use heat in mining 14:45 - Sazmining's business model and how they operate 21:05 - The community and role of Bitcoin miners in there 24:35 - Bitcoin mining model explained in simple terms 29:12 - Identifying key geographical hotspots in mining 34:03 - The future of energy sources and storage  39:02 - Innovations and future plans of Sazmining — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format?  🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066  🎧Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44  -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. #Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation

    45 min
  3. Bitcoin Treasury Companies Deep Dive, with Patrick Heusser | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #108

    19/11/2025

    Bitcoin Treasury Companies Deep Dive, with Patrick Heusser | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #108

    Patrick Heusser is the Head of Lending at Sentora and one of the most established experts in Bitcoin in Switzerland. He has been writing about and researching digital assets for almost a decade and is keen on contributing to new financing models for the ecosystem.  In this conversation with Relai's Head of Communications, Joël Kai Lenz, Patrick discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why Bitcoin treasury companies are interesting but require careful differentiation between early adopters and copycats, and how the space is expected to evolve.  You can follow Patrick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heusser/  — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:10 - The revolutionary impact of Strategy 05:56 - Financial models in Bitcoin acquisition 09:01 - The role of retail investors in Bitcoin 12:08 - The future of Bitcoin treasury companies 14:46 - Metaplanet's unique use case as a treasury company 18:05 - Emergence of new Bitcoin treasury companies 20:53 - Market dynamics and the treasury hype cycle 23:58 - The importance of MNAV in treasury evaluations 27:04 - The risk of over-hyped treasury companies 30:14 - The future of potential Bitcoin banks 36:12 - Outlook on the future in the space 47:55 - Patrick's Bitcoin position in his portfolio — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format?  🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066  🎧Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44  -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. #Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation

    50 min
  4. Bitcoin Bonds Will Revolutionize the Financial World, with Pierre Rochard | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #107

    12/11/2025

    Bitcoin Bonds Will Revolutionize the Financial World, with Pierre Rochard | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #107

    Pierre Rochard is the CEO of the Bitcoin Bond Company and the host of the Bitcoin for Corporations podcast. He’s also one of the most vocal people out there on X about all things Bitcoin, bonds, and treasury companies.  In this conversation with Relai CEO, Julian Liniger, Pierre discusses his journey into Bitcoin, what motivated him to join get into mining first and why he moved on from his role at Riot, what opportunities await us with Bitcoin bonds and why he is so bullish for the future.  You can follow Pierre on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre  And subscribe to his podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/@BitcoinForCorporations/  — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:10 - Bitcoin all-time highs and conversations about it 06:16 - Retail vs. institutional investors in Bitcoin 12:15 - Self-custody vs. institutional custody 15:08 - The impact of the spot Bitcoin ETFs 24:21 - Mining strategies and what miners think like  32:42 - Financial engineering and Bitcoin bonds 38:08 - The future of private credit and Bitcoin lending — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format?  🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066  🎧Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44  -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications. #Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation

    45 min
  5. Bitcoin Treasury Companies Are Here to Stay , with Alexandre Laizet | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #104

    15/10/2025

    Bitcoin Treasury Companies Are Here to Stay , with Alexandre Laizet | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #104

    Alexandre Laizet is the board director of Bitcoin strategy at Capital ₿, Europe's first Bitcoin treasury company based in France.  In this conversation with Relai CEO, Julian Liniger, Alexandre discusses his journey into Bitcoin, what motivated him to join the board of a Bitcoin treasury company, and how these companies will evolve in the future.  You can follow Alexandre on X: https://x.com/AlexandreLaizet  Or connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandre-laizet/  — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:15 - Bitcoin’s unique value proposition 05:10 - The mechanics of Bitcoin treasury companies 10:25 - Fundraising strategies for Bitcoin treasury companies 15:10 - Risks ans opportunities in Bitcoin treasury investments 26:25 - The future of Bitcoin treasury companies 35:10 - Market dynamics and competition amongst treasury companies 41:40 - The role of Bitcoin treasury companies in private markets — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format?  🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066  🎧Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44  -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai services are exclusively recommended for Swiss and Italian residents. #Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation

    52 min
  6. Why Banks Like Bitcoin Now, With Pascal Hügli | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #102

    27/08/2025

    Why Banks Like Bitcoin Now, With Pascal Hügli | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #102

    Pascal Hügli is a former journalist and currently an investment manager at Maerki Baumann. The bank is one of the leading financial institutions in Switzerland that offers exposure to Bitcoin and other digital currencies.  In this conversation with Relai's Head of Communications, Joël Kai Lenz,  Pascal discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to work in a bank, how whales and clients with big positions are selling BTC, why he wrote a book, and what he thinks the future holds.  You can follow Pascal on X: https://x.com/pahueg  Or connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pascal-huegli/  Pascal also has a great podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@lessnoisemoresignalpodcast  You can buy Pascal's book here: https://www.ricardosalinas.com/en/librobitcoin  — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 05:15 - Pascal's podcast 10:18 - Pascal's new book with Ricardo Salinas 15:10 - Bitcoin's role in banking and institutional adoption 20:19 - Market dynamics and why we see so much selling 25:16 - The impact of BlackRock and other financial institutions 26:53 - Do clients of Maerki Baumann like Bitcoin or Bitcoin ETFs more? 30:15 - The human element in Bitcoin and its community 32:36 - Fiat vs. Bitcoin: Can it co-exist for the next century? 36:45 - Bitcoin treasury companies and their impact 41:08 - The rationality of Bitcoin investments — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format?  🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066  🎧Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44  -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai services are exclusively recommended for Swiss and Italian residents. #Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation

    45 min
  7. Bitcoin: Gradually, Then Suddenly With Parker Lewis | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #100

    15/07/2025

    Bitcoin: Gradually, Then Suddenly With Parker Lewis | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #100

    Parker Lewis is the Head of Business Development at Zaprite, a tool and a new way to collect Bitcoin payments online. Additionally, he’s also the Author of the book ‘Gradually, Then Suddenly’.  In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Parker discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to work in Bitcoin companies, how Bitcoin will soon eat up all the world’s wealth, and what motivated him to write his book. You can follow Parker on X: https://x.com/parkeralewis  You can buy Parker’s book here: https://academy.saifedean.com/product/gradually-then-suddenly-hardcover/?v=adab7b701f23  — 00:00 - Intro 00:45 - Why Bitcoin community hubs are important 05:37 - Understanding Bitcoin and Parker’s book 12:25 - The problem with fiat money 19:00 - Bitcoin as a solution to economic issues 23:39 - Bitcoin as a store of value vs. a medium of exchange 29:29 - The future of Bitcoin payments 33:05 - Adoption and the acceptance of Bitcoin in businesses 39:14 - Parker’s Bitcoin allocation in his portfolio — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format?  Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066  Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44  -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai AG. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- Relai is Europe’s easiest bitcoin investment app. The ‘Made in Switzerland’ bitcoin investment app enables anyone in Europe to invest in bitcoin within minutes. You can buy bitcoin instantly or set up a weekly/monthly savings plan for as little as 50 CHF/EUR and invest in bitcoin automatically over time. Disclaimer: Relai services are exclusively recommended for Swiss and Italian residents. 👋 New to Relai? Visit our website to learn more: https://relai.app/ 💡 Also, don't forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel to watch the episode in video format and enjoy the best bits from new episodes: https://www.youtube.com/c/Relai Follow us on Twitter ➡️ https://twitter.com/Relai_app Follow us on Instagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/relai.app/ Like our Facebook page ➡️ https://www.facebook.com/pg/RelaiApp/community/  #bitcoin #personalfinance #savings #buybitcoin

    43 min
  8. The Dangers of CBDCs and Why Bitcoin Is the Exit With Efrat Fenigson | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #97

    07/05/2025

    The Dangers of CBDCs and Why Bitcoin Is the Exit With Efrat Fenigson | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #97

    Efrat Fenigson hosts the “You’re The Voice” podcast and is a public advocate for Bitcoin worldwide. She came onto the scene at BTC Amsterdam in 2023 and BTC Prague 2024, where she gave talks about the dangers of CBDCs and how Bitcoin can be an exit.  In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Efrat discusses her journey into Bitcoin, why she decided to take a closer look a few years ago, how she started her podcast, why she’s educating against CBDCs, and what Bitcoiners can do in the future.  You can follow Efrat on X: https://x.com/efenigson  You can subscribe to Efrat’s podcast here: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice  — 00:00 - Intro 00:29 - Efrat’s journey into Bitcoin 05:23 - Understanding CBDCs vs. Bitcoin 10:01 - The future of CBDCs and the global financial system 20:18 - The risks of CBDCs and financial control 30:09 - Personal finance and the Bitcoin standard — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format?  Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066  Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44  -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai AG. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- Relai is Europe’s easiest bitcoin investment app. The ‘Made in Switzerland’ bitcoin investment app enables anyone in Europe to invest in bitcoin within minutes. You can buy bitcoin instantly or set up a weekly/monthly savings plan for as little as 50 CHF/EUR and invest in bitcoin automatically over time. Disclaimer: Relai services are exclusively recommended for Swiss and Italian residents. 👋 New to Relai? Visit our website to learn more: https://relai.app/ 💡 Also, don't forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel to watch the episode in video format and enjoy the best bits from new episodes: https://www.youtube.com/c/Relai Follow us on Twitter ➡️ https://twitter.com/Relai_app Follow us on Instagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/relai.app/ Like our Facebook page ➡️ https://www.facebook.com/pg/RelaiApp/community/  #bitcoin #personalfinance #savings #buybitcoin

    42 min

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In the Relai Bitcoin Podcast we discuss the latest trends and developments in the world of Bitcoin. Relai CEO Julian Liniger interviews leading Bitcoin experts to answer some of the industry’s most pressing questions with the aim to educate listers about the world’s leading digital currency. Suchst du den Podcast auf Deutsch? Klick hier: https://anchor.fm/relai-dach

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