Second Orders

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Second Orders is a series of conversations with thinkers, tinkerers and theorists about pivotal changes in science, technology, law and culture, their unintended consequences and what they reveal about how we live and cooperate at every scale.

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  1. 6 pv sitten

    Art forgery may be the first job that AI kills - Noah Charney

    ABOUT THE EPISODE Noah Charney is a professor of Art History at the American University of Rome and the University of Ljubljana, the founder of the Association for Research into Crimes against Art (ARCA) and the prolific mind behind a wide body of books and articles whose range is exceeded only by their depth of insight and lucidity of writing. His work in the field of art crime has been praised in such forums as The New York Times Magazine, Time Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, BBC Radio, and Tatler among others. He might however be best known for being the media's go-to art crime detective whenever a spectacular heist happens in the world, during which he has the unenviable tasks of reminding us that art still exists, that art heists aren't usually like what we see in movies and that crimes in the art world reverberate throughout politics, the economy and even terrorism and armed conflicts. Noah's work and ideas deserve at least as much renown as the art that he studies. In this episode, we talk about why forgers forge for revenge rather than money, how fraud is shifting from the handmade canvas to the digital file, and what happens to authorship, value and crime once AI can both fake a painting and judge whether one is real. ABOUT SECOND ORDERS Second Orders is a series of conversations with thinkers, tinkerers and theorists about pivotal changes in science, technology, law and culture, their unintended consequences and what they reveal about how we live and cooperate at every scale. Website: http://secondorders.co Become a guest or suggest a topic: http://secondorders.co/hello Chapters: 00:43 A grand unifying theory of art crime? 09:32 What were art thieves really after? 12:51 Were conquering empires just looting for profit? 15:48 Forging art for revenge or money? 19:23 Is forgery dying out as the gatekeepers lose power? 22:06 Will the next great forgery be entirely digital? 26:30 Can you forge a song or a film the way you forge a painting? 40:30 How would an art criminal actually use AI? 44:02 Who really makes the big bucks in art crime? 49:13 Can AI authentication give unknown artists a fair shot? 51:37 What happens when AI authenticators can't agree? 57:45 Is AI art actually art? 59:52 What excites you about the future?

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    AI learned language backwards and we need a new humanities to understand it - Leif Weatherby

    ABOUT THE EPISODE Leif Weatherby is an associate professor of German at New York University, founding director of the Digital Theory Lab and Director of Digital Humanities. His research spans dialectics, semiotics, the nature of data and computing, and problems of political economy after the Industrial Revolution. He's also written several books, the latest of which is Language Machines: Cultural AI and the End of Remainder Humanism, and is currently working on two other book projects: Artificial Concepts: How Cybernetics Encountered German Idealism and The Mismeasure of Mind: Against the Prediction of Everything. ABOUT SECOND ORDERS Second Orders is a series of conversations with thinkers, tinkerers and theorists about pivotal changes in science, technology, law and culture, their unintended consequences and what they reveal about how we live and cooperate at every scale. Website: secondorders.co Become a guest or suggest a topic: secondorders.co/hello Chapters: 00:00 Why LLMs got language before they got reasoning 07:40 Saussure and the poetic function inside attention 13:13 The four-horned unicorn: meaning from the top down 15:42 What if grammar is easier than meaning? 23:05 Steelmanning the AI skeptic 32:58 Chess, Go and the boards we play language on 36:47 Why language feels like the special human thing 44:48 Do we need a new humanities to study AI language? 58:16 How will AI change the way we use language? 01:01:15 Language-as-a-service 01:02:23 Can AI free us to interact more authentically again? 01:10:06 LLMs as ideology machines 01:23:14 Schismogenesis and the refusal of AI vocabulary 01:29:10 Remainder humanism & taste 01:37:51 What about the future excites you?

    1 t 40 min

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Second Orders is a series of conversations with thinkers, tinkerers and theorists about pivotal changes in science, technology, law and culture, their unintended consequences and what they reveal about how we live and cooperate at every scale.