Electric Friends: A Gary Numan Podcast

Tom Eames

Celebrating the music of electronic pioneer Gary Numan, track-by-track. Each episode delves into a different Gary Numan song from various albums and eras in a non-linear journey.

  1. -6 j

    Radio Heart: 1987 to 1994 - a history

    In this episode of Electric Friends, I tell the full story of Radio Heart — Gary Numan's strangest detour, and the closest he ever came to being a pop star for hire. With Numa Records struggling at the end of 1986, Gary accepted an offer to sing on 'Radio Heart', a bright pop single written by Hugh Nicholson — and to his own surprise found himself back on the Radio 1 playlist and in the Top 40. We trace the whole saga: the Nicholson brothers, the singles 'Radio Heart', 'London Times' and 'All Across The Nation', the Numan-penned B-sides 'River', 'Rumour' and 'Mistasax' (and how 'River' quietly announced his soundtrack ambitions), Elton John's blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameo on the Radio Heart album, the album's withdrawal, and the 1994 finale 'Like A Refugee (I Won't Cry)' with Italian robot marching band Dadadang — the single Radio 1 wouldn't play, even while making Gary 'God of the Day'. Joining me is Steve Thorpe, compiler and sleeve-note writer of the new deluxe 2CD collection Radio Heart featuring Gary Numan: All Across The Nation – A Collection (Edsel Records, out 7th August 2026). Steve reveals how the original Roundhouse master tapes were rediscovered, the two previously unreleased tracks found on them, how Tessa Niles's uncredited backing vocals were finally confirmed — and tells one of the all-time great "meeting Gary" stories, involving an unanswered front door and a voice shouting "Spooky!" Plus, in Gary's own words: excerpts from his autobiography (R)evolution on the money that felt like "a lifeline to a drowning man", the arguments with his dad, and why he refused to sell his soul completely. And at the end of the show, your verdicts on the Radio Heart era — the defenders, the executioners, and "Gary's Tin Machine". All Across The Nation – A Collection is available to pre-order now from Amazon, Rough Trade, Proper Music, Burning Shed and all the usual outlets.

    Radio Heart: 1987 to 1994 - a history
  2. 2 mai

    Saffron interview: Republica singer's Gary Numan duet, friendship and more

    In this episode of Electric Friends: A Gary Numan Podcast, I’m joined by a very special guest — Saffron, frontwoman of Republica, lifelong Gary Numan fan, collaborator, and close friend of the Numan family. We talk through Saffron’s incredible journey in music — from her early influences and theatre work, to becoming a songwriter and eventually forming Republica in the mid-90s. She shares the story behind their breakthrough hits like ‘Ready to Go’ and ‘Drop Dead Gorgeous’, how the band carved out their electronic rock sound, and what it was really like navigating success during that era. Of course, a huge part of our conversation is her connection with Gary Numan. Saffron explains how discovering Replicas at a young age completely changed her life, why Gary’s music resonated so deeply, and how that influence shaped her own artistic identity. We also dive into the iconic Random tribute album, where Saffron and Republica covered ‘Are Friends Electric?’ — and how that led to her first meeting with Gary and Gemma. What followed was not just a collaboration, but a lasting friendship that continues to this day. Beyond music, Saffron opens up about her work in mental health, her experiences during the pandemic as a frontline worker, and how those experiences have shaped her perspective. It’s a warm, honest and wide-ranging conversation about creativity, fandom, resilience and the lasting impact of Gary Numan’s music.

    Saffron interview: Republica singer's Gary Numan duet, friendship and more
  3. 1 mars

    Love Needs No Disguise

    In this episode of Electric Friends: A Gary Numan Podcast, I explore one of the most fascinating songs connected to Gary’s early 80s world — ‘Love Needs No Disguise’. Originally released in 1981 by Dramatis — the band formed by Chris Payne, Rrussell Bell, Denis Haines and Cedric Sharpley after Gary’s temporary retirement from touring — the track featured Gary on lead vocals and became their biggest chart hit, reaching number 33 in the UK. I talk about how I rediscovered the song during a recent trip to Brussels (and a very successful record shop haul), why it meant so much to me as an 8-year-old discovering Gary through the Best Of cassette, and why this track still holds a special place in my top 10. Musically, I break down what makes the song so distinctive — the haunting synth intro, Ced’s drums, Russell’s guitar, Chris Payne’s viola, and that brilliant early-80s synth-pop atmosphere. But lyrically, it’s even more interesting. As Rrussell Bell confirmed to me in a previous interview, the song wasn’t really a romantic love song at all — it was written about their time touring with Gary. I look at how the lyrics take on new meaning in that context: the touring references, the emotional bond between bandmates, and the reassurance that “love needs no disguise” even after Gary stepped away. Plus, I revisit the video shoot at Shepperton Studios, read out your brilliant fan memories (so many of you were in that video!), and reflect on why this song remains quietly emotional and underrated.

    Love Needs No Disguise
  4. 17 janv.

    Let Loose's Lee Murray interview: How Gary Numan changed my life

    I talk to Let Loose drummer Lee Murray about his pop career, his lifelong love of Gary Numan, and how Numan shaped his life and music. In this episode of Electric Friends: A Gary Numan Podcast, I do something a little different. Instead of speaking to band members or collaborators from Gary’s world, I sit down with one of his most passionate famous fans — Lee Murray from Let Loose. Lee and I talk about his journey through music, from growing up glued to Top of the Pops to finding his own success in the 1990s as part of Let Loose, the band behind the huge hit ‘Crazy for You’. He opens up about the long road to success, being mislabelled as a boyband, record deals that fell apart, and the pressure that came with sudden fame — before finding a healthier, more joyful relationship with music in later years. At the heart of the conversation is Gary Numan. Lee shares how seeing Gary on Top of the Pops changed everything for him — how Gary “looked how I felt”, and why that sense of otherness made such a powerful connection. We talk about first gigs, the Warriors tour, idol-to-friend moments, and the surreal experience of eventually supporting Gary on tour. Lee also reflects honestly on mental health, regret, stepping away at the wrong time, and how Gary’s openness and kindness left a lasting impression on him. It’s a warm, thoughtful and often emotional conversation about fandom, creativity, resilience and why Gary inspires such deep loyalty across generations. If you love Gary Numan, 90s pop history, or hearing artists speak candidly about fame and its realities, this episode is for you.

    Let Loose's Lee Murray interview: How Gary Numan changed my life
  5. 21/12/2025

    Like a B-Film

    If you'd like to buy Electric Friends merch including stickers, T-shirts, mugs and more, please head to https://electric-friends.printify.me/ In this episode I dive into one of the most unexpected Gary Numan surprises of recent years — the release of Like a B-Film, a previously unheard Telekon-era demo that suddenly appeared via the 45th anniversary re-issue. I explain how the track appeared almost out of nowhere. Very quickly, it became clear this was genuine: raw 1980 synth textures, unfinished edges, and Gary’s unmistakable vocal — a time capsule suddenly dropped into the present. The episode looks closely at the lyric sheet shared by fans online, lines that shrink humanity into “little pictures,” reference “B-films” and deadened media culture, and land on stark declarations like we are broken, we are shattered, we are glass. I discuss how the imagery hints at emotional numbness, voyeurism and disconnection — themes that would later define tracks like I Dream of Wires and Remind Me to Smile. We also hear Gary himself address the track at Hammersmith — admitting he doesn’t remember writing it, joking that it probably didn’t make the album “because it’s happy,” and marvelling at Beggars Banquet uncovering a demo he’d forgotten. The episode includes reactions from fans comparing the sound to John Foxx, celebrating the synth tones, and debating whether it ever would have sat comfortably on Telekon — or whether saving it has made the surprise even sweeter. I also preview other demos on the anniversary release, and reflect on why unheard material still excites Numan fans after four decades.

    Like a B-Film

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Celebrating the music of electronic pioneer Gary Numan, track-by-track. Each episode delves into a different Gary Numan song from various albums and eras in a non-linear journey.

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