TBPN

John Coogan & Jordi Hays

TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

  1. -1 h

    China Export Controls, Jeremy Giffon Breaks Silence, Alex Hormozi in the Ultradome | Josh Zoffer, John McElhone, Deena Shakir, Hussein Fazal, John Nay

    (04:13) - China Export Controls (12:49) - SK Hynix Sets to Raise $28B (15:51) - Meta Unveils Muse Image (20:41) - Jeremy Giffon Breaks Silence (22:42) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (28:35) - Alex Hormozi is an entrepreneur, investor, and author best known for founding Acquisition.com, where he invests in and advises growing businesses. He is the author of $100M Offers and $100M Leads, and is widely known for sharing practical frameworks on entrepreneurship, marketing, sales, and scaling companies. (01:29:29) - Josh Zoffer, an investor and head of research at CIV, formerly a White House National Economic Council and US Treasury adviser, discusses the strategic importance of data centers in the United States. He emphasizes that data centers are not merely collections of chips but also involve critical technologies like power electronics and industrial materials such as steel. Zoffer warns that if the U.S. hinders data center construction, it risks losing control over essential supply chains, potentially repeating past mistakes that led to reliance on foreign sources for critical materials. (01:41:52) - John McElhone, founder of American Turbines, discusses his company's development of compact, 1-megawatt natural gas turbines designed for rapid deployment, capable of powering over a thousand homes and fitting in the back of a pickup truck. He emphasizes the advantage of utilizing the abundant and inexpensive natural gas supply in the United States, making this technology particularly suitable for the domestic market. McElhone also highlights the company's focus on scaling production through automation, aiming to revolutionize energy generation by simplifying turbine design and manufacturing processes. (01:47:32) - Deena Shakir, a General Partner at Lux Capital, invests in transformative technologies across sectors such as women's health, digital health infrastructure, health equity, foodtech, and fintech. In the conversation, she discusses Lux Capital's recent investment in 1001, an AI company based in the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) region, highlighting the potential for applied AI in the Gulf and the opportunity for rapid, large-scale deployments. She also emphasizes the importance of homegrown companies in the GCC and the unique opportunity to build sovereign AI companies focused on the region. (01:54:38) - Hussein Fazal, co-founder and CEO of Super.com, discusses the company's recent $65 million Series D funding led by TPG at a $1.2 billion valuation, and its evolution into a savings super app offering discounts on hotels, gas, insurance, and financial services tailored for everyday Americans. He highlights the integration of AI to expedite product development and the strategic partnership with NASCAR to enhance brand visibility among their target demographic. (02:07:01) - John Nay, founder and CEO of Norm AI, discusses the company's recent $120 million funding round at a $1.2 billion valuation, highlighting their shift from selling AI tools to in-house legal teams to establishing Norm Law LLP, a law firm powered by AI agents. He emphasizes the value of vertical integration, with AI engineers and lawyers collaborating closely to reinvent legal workflows, and advises law students to focus on legal engineering by applying AI to legal reasoning. Nay also notes that while international expansion is considered, it requires deliberate planning to ensure the necessary legal expertise in each jurisdiction. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.com Public - https://public.com Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Console - https://www.console.com CrowdStrike - https://www.crowdstrike.com Figma - https://www.figma.com MongoDB - https://www.mongodb.com NYSE - https://www.nyse.com Railway - https://railway.com Shopify - https://www.shopify.com Codex - http://openAI.com/codex Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tbpn/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    2 h 20 min
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    XBOX Layoffs, "Manual" Ferrari, Circle K Lottery Dispute | Baiju Bhatt, Daniel English, Michele Catasta

    (03:58) - XBOX Layoffs (21:13) - "Manual" Ferrari (31:21) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (50:23) - Circle K Lottery Dispute (01:05:31) - Baiju Bhatt, co-founder of Robinhood and CEO of Cowboy Space Corporation, discusses the evolution of his company from Aetherflux to Cowboy Space, focusing on developing vertically integrated orbital data centers and launch vehicles to meet the growing demand for AI computing. He emphasizes the importance of designing rockets and data centers as a unified system to optimize performance and cost-effectiveness, aiming to harness solar energy in space to power these data centers. Bhatt also highlights the shift in the space industry towards commercial payloads, particularly for AI applications, and the need for companies to control their own launch capabilities to meet this demand efficiently. (01:31:17) - Daniel English, co-founder and managing partner of Legacy Investing, transitioned from tech entrepreneurship to real estate investment, focusing on data centers, logistics, and life sciences facilities. In the conversation, he discusses the evolution of data centers, highlighting their increasing importance due to AI and cloud computing, and emphasizes the strategic conversion of underutilized urban office buildings into high-density data centers to meet growing infrastructure demands. (01:49:05) - Michele Catasta, President and Head of AI at Replit, discusses the evolution from "vibe coding" to "vibe building," emphasizing the shift towards enabling users to create customized AI agents that autonomously accomplish tasks end-to-end. He highlights the importance of thinking in terms of goals rather than specific applications, allowing agents to determine the necessary steps and code to achieve desired outcomes. Catasta also predicts a future where agents replace traditional apps, streamlining workflows and reducing reliance on deterministic software. (02:00:07) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.com Public - https://public.com Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Console - https://www.console.com CrowdStrike - https://www.crowdstrike.com Figma - https://www.figma.com MongoDB - https://www.mongodb.com NYSE - https://www.nyse.com Railway - https://railway.com Shopify - https://www.shopify.com Codex - http://openAI.com/codex Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tbpn/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    2 h 6 min
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    SpaceX Phone, U.S. Stake in OpenAI, Jersey Mike's IPO | Andrew Collins, Vipul Ved Prakash, Isaiah Taylor, Dean Ball, Rob Toews, Tuhin Srivastava

    (00:32) - Fable Unbanned (02:57) - OpenAI/U.S. Stake (11:03) - Jersey Mike's IPO (14:11) - End of Paper-Based Retirement (19:27) - SpaceX Phone (29:11) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (35:17) - Andrew Collins, CEO of Flexjet, discusses his journey from joining the company in 2012 through an acquisition to leading its global expansion, including the significant impact of COVID-19 on private aviation demand. He highlights Flexjet's strategic growth, such as the acquisition of Halo Aviation in London and Associated Aircraft Group in New York to form a global helicopter division, and the introduction of large-cabin aircraft like the Gulfstream G700 to meet increasing transatlantic flight demand. Collins also emphasizes the company's focus on enhancing customer experiences through partnerships, including becoming the official private aviation partner of Formula 1, and investing in future aviation technologies like electric vertical take-off and landing (eVTOL) vehicles. (51:39) - Vipul Ved Prakash, co-founder and CEO of Together AI, discusses the rapid growth of open-source AI models, highlighting their increasing competitiveness with closed-source alternatives and their ability to handle complex enterprise tasks. He emphasizes the cost-effectiveness and scalability of open models, noting a significant shift as companies adopt them to optimize expenses and maintain control over sensitive data. Prakash also addresses the evolving regulatory landscape, advocating for transparent evaluation of AI models to balance innovation with safety concerns. (01:02:46) - Isaiah Taylor, founder and CEO of Valar Atomics, discusses the company's recent milestone of generating electricity for the first time with their Ward 250 reactor, marking them as the first nuclear startup to achieve this feat. He highlights the advantages of nuclear power over natural gas, emphasizing its scalability and reduced climate impact, particularly in meeting the growing energy demands of the AI industry. Taylor also underscores the importance of proactive community engagement, noting that Valar Atomics involves local leaders early in the process to address potential concerns and foster support for their projects. (01:11:42) - Dean Ball, a former Senior Policy Advisor for Artificial Intelligence and Emerging Technology at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, recently joined OpenAI as Head of Strategic Futures. In his conversation, he discusses the rapid evolution of AI policy, noting that the current pace of policy development may be outstripping technological advancements. He also highlights the personal dynamics influencing AI policy debates and expresses concerns about potential government overreach in AI governance, emphasizing the need for balanced approaches to ensure both innovation and safety. (01:45:11) - Rob Toews, a venture capitalist and AI columnist, discusses his firm's recent $100 million investment in 12 Labs, a company specializing in video intelligence and understanding. He also shares his process for making annual AI predictions, highlighting five forecasts for 2030, including Anthropic's emergence as a major life sciences company, the disruption of semiconductor monopolies, the advent of telepathic communication, significant reductions in AI energy consumption, and societal debates over AI rights. Throughout the conversation, Toews emphasizes the rapid advancements in AI and their profound implications for various industries and societal norms. (02:05:20) - Tuhin Srivastava, co-founder and CEO of Baseten, an AI inference infrastructure company, discusses the company's recent $1.5 billion Series F funding round, which values Baseten at up to $13 billion. He highlights the growing demand for AI inference solutions across various sectors and emphasizes the importance of open-source models and customized AI solutions for businesses to maintain control over their data and intelligence. Srivastava also addresses concerns about open-source AI, advocating for the development of open-source control to ensure companies can own their intelligence and data. (02:16:09) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.com Public - https://public.com Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Console - https://www.console.com CrowdStrike - https://www.crowdstrike.com Figma - https://www.figma.com MongoDB - https://www.mongodb.com NYSE - https://www.nyse.com Railway - https://railway.com Shopify - https://www.shopify.com Codex - http://openAI.com/codex Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tbpn/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    2 h 26 min
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    MetaCloud, Bending Spoons IPO with Founder Luca Ferrari, Amble Founder Joins | Mark Pincus, Shubh Sinha, Wayne Ting, Jeffery Liu & Jon Wang, Eliot Pence, Luca Ferrari, Nick Grossman, Julian Hoenig

    (01:26) - Meta Sells Compute? (28:17) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (32:14) - Mark Pincus, an American internet entrepreneur, is best known as the founder of Zynga, the pioneering social mobile gaming company behind hits like FarmVille and Words with Friends. In his recent conversation, Pincus discusses his new book, Life at the Speed of Play, which offers a hands-on guide to transforming ideas into products that resonate with users. He emphasizes the importance of rapid testing and learning in the AI era, sharing insights from his experiences to help entrepreneurs increase their chances of success. (01:08:42) - Shubh Sinha, co-founder and CEO of Integral, discusses the company's recent $18 million Series A funding and its mission to sanitize proprietary real-world datasets—such as medical records and financial transactions—so AI developers can access valuable data while ensuring privacy and compliance. He highlights how Integral enables data holders to monetize sensitive information without compromising privacy, benefiting both data providers and AI builders. Sinha also emphasizes the importance of privacy engineering in maintaining data utility and regulatory adherence, particularly in sectors like healthcare. (01:14:40) - Wayne Ting, CEO of Lime, reflects on the company's journey to its IPO, emphasizing the challenges faced in the micromobility industry and Lime's success in building a scalable, sustainable, and profitable business. He highlights the importance of operational efficiency, noting that even small mistakes can significantly impact the business, and stresses the need for a clear focus on critical areas like hardware, software, operations, and government relations. Ting also discusses Lime's vertical integration in hardware and software, which has allowed the company to manage supply chain challenges effectively and maintain a competitive edge in the market. (01:27:05) - Jeffery Liu is the co-founder and co-CEO of Assort Health, a San Francisco-based company specializing in AI-driven solutions for healthcare providers. In the conversation, Liu discusses how Assort Health's agentic platform enhances the entire patient journey by automating tasks such as call center operations, document processing, patient intake, care gap activation, and payment collection. He highlights the platform's ability to personalize patient interactions, reduce administrative burdens, and improve access to care, addressing challenges like long hold times and inefficient scheduling. (01:34:20) - Eliot Pence, co-founder of Dominion Dynamics, discusses the company's recent $100 million funding round aimed at building a Canadian defense technology firm focused on autonomous systems and Arctic domain awareness. He highlights Canada's rich defense tech history and the current opportunity to establish a major defense brand, emphasizing the importance of developing solutions for the Arctic's harsh environment to create significant competitive advantages. Pence also notes the company's strategic approach to cap table construction, incorporating both Canadian pension funds and global investors to support their vision of building a globally impactful, Canadian-owned enterprise. (01:41:06) - Luca Ferrari, co-founder and CEO of Bending Spoons, an Italian digital business holding company, has led the firm to a successful $1.7 billion IPO, listing on the Nasdaq under the ticker "BSP" with an $18.4 billion valuation. In a recent conversation, he discussed the company's broad acquisition strategy, emphasizing the importance of predictability and long-term improvement in potential targets, rather than focusing solely on industry or synergy alignment. Ferrari also highlighted the time-intensive nature of their transformative integration process and reflected on their journey from an initial $10,000 acquisition to their current position, underscoring that, despite their achievements, the company's journey is just beginning. (02:03:39) - Nick Grossman, a partner at Union Square Ventures, discusses the firm's investment approach, emphasizing their focus on expansive technological waves that open new opportunities, such as the Web 2.0 era and the rise of agentic AI. He introduces the "Rebel Alliance" thesis, highlighting the vast ecosystem emerging around powerful AI models and the potential for generational companies to be built across various components of the agentic stack. Grossman also addresses the challenges and opportunities of thesis-driven investing, noting the importance of timing, team selection, and the balance between capital intensity and strategic positioning in the evolving AI landscape. (02:22:48) - Julian Hoenig, co-founder and chief design officer of Amble, discusses the inception of the Amble One, a street-legal electric buggy designed for short-range mobility in resorts and urban areas. The idea originated from a conversation with his friend José António Uva, who sought an aesthetically pleasing mobility solution for his resort in Portugal. Recognizing a broader market need, Hoenig and his team developed the Amble One, emphasizing design, comfort, and performance, with plans to begin deliveries to hospitality clients in 2027 and expand to consumer markets by 2028. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.com Public - https://public.com Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Console - https://www.console.com CrowdStrike - https://www.crowdstrike.com Figma - https://www.figma.com MongoDB - https://www.mongodb.com NYSE - https://www.nyse.com Railway - https://railway.com Shopify - https://www.shopify.com Codex - http://openAI.com/codex Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tbpn/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    2 h 37 min

À propos

TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

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