Working Mumma

Carina O’Brien

Working Mumma is the podcast redefining what it means to build and have a career after having children. From the emotional rollercoaster of returning to work, to navigating identity shifts, rebuilding confidence, pay, flexibility and redesigning work to match your new life, where real stories and practical strategies meet. Because motherhood doesn’t end ambition - it reshapes it. Hosted by Carina O’Brien, mum of 2 boys, businesswoman, and founder of Working Mumma, each episode delivers relatable stories, expert interviews, and practical strategies to help you. You will hear from experts, leaders, and women like you who are juggling career and motherhood. You’re not alone in this. Tune in weekly to feel supported, empowered, and reminded that you’re doing a great job.

  1. -2 j

    You're Not Less Ambitious. The World Around You Just Hasn't Caught Up Yet With Kat Francis

    Since going back to work after maternity leave, has anyone - a manager, a colleague, a well-meaning relative - implied that you've changed? That you're not quite as driven as you used to be? Maybe your focus has shifted? Because here's the truth: you haven't changed. Not in the way they think. Your ambition is still there, it's just evolved into something sharper, more purposeful, and more powerful than it's ever been. The problem isn't you. The world around you just hasn't caught up yet. This week on Working Mumma, I'm sitting down with Kat Francis, a Melbourne-based leadership coach for ambitious women, keynote speaker. Kat spent two decades climbing through creative agencies to Managing Director level, then walked away from equity and ownership to build a career that actually aligned with who she'd become. This conversation is honest, validating, and deeply practical. Whether you're fresh back from mat leave or a few years in and wondering why your career still feels like it's running in slow motion, this one is for you. In this episode we cover: The LinkedIn post about ambition after motherhood and why it struck such a raw nerve with Australian working mums Kat's own pivot: walking away from an MD role with equity on the table, and what that decision revealed about values, identity and what we actually want from work The data from The Ambition Report that's hard to hear - only 16% of mums were promoted after returning from mat leave, and only 23% received a pay rise Why your ambition didn't disappear after kids, it got sharper, and why that gets misread as "less committed" The settling trap: how so many women come back from maternity leave and quietly accept a role that's comfortable but hollow and how to stop How to advocate for yourself with outdated managers without burning bridges or losing your composure The motherhood penalty vs the fatherhood bonus, what it actually looks like in Australian workplaces right now How to have the ambition conversation with your partner and why getting on the same page about success changes everything Connect with Kat Francis Website: coachkat.com.au LinkedIn: Kat Francis Connect with Carina and Working Mumma  Follow on Instagram  Follow Working Mumma podcast on Instagram Connect with Carina on LinkedIn Subscribe to the newsletter

    45 min
  2. 26 mai

    Why Don't I Feel Like Me Anymore? Matrescence, Identity & Returning to Work with Amanda Jackson

    If you've ever returned to work after parental leave and thought, "I'm not the same person I was before I went on parental leave", you are not imagining it. And there's actually a word for what you're going through. In this episode of the Working Mumma Podcast, I sit down with Amanda Jackson, founder of Motherhood and Matrescence and author of the book by the same name, to explore the concept of matrescence, the process of becoming a mother, and why understanding it is one of the most powerful tools a working mum can have. In this episode we chat about: • What matrescence is — and why you've probably never heard of it (even though the word was coined in 1973) • The 3 stages of matrescence: separation, liminality, and integration • Why so many women feel like they've lost themselves after having children • The invisible load: why the work of mothering goes unseen and how that affects our identity • What really happens to your brain when you become a mum (it's NOT "mummy brain" - it's a neurological upgrade) • How matrescence affects your return to work and what employers and women themselves can do differently • Parenting for the audience vs. parenting for your family: how to block out the noise • Patressence: do dads go through it too? • Practical rituals and reflections to help you reconnect with who you are • The powerful questions to ask yourself (and your kids) to understand your matrescence journey   Connect with Amanda Jackson Website: motherhoodandmatrescence.com Instagram: @motherhood_and_matrescence LinkedIn: Amanda Jackson Connect with Carina and Working Mumma  Follow on Instagram  Follow Working Mumma podcast on Instagram Connect with Carina on LinkedIn Subscribe to the newsletter

    45 min
  3. 19 mai

    Why the Mental Load Gets Bigger When Your Kids Start School (And What to Do About It)

    When you're in the thick of the baby and toddler years, it can feel like that's the hardest it will ever be. But what nobody tells you is that the challenge doesn't disappear as your kids get older - it just changes shape. In this solo episode, I'm getting real about a phase of working motherhood I didn't see coming: the school-age years. From navigating school hours that don't align with work hours, to managing a never-ending rotation of sports trainings, WhatsApp groups, Compass and Storypark alerts, school events, and the invisible mental load of coordinating everyone else's lives - this one's for the mums in the thick of it. I talk about: Why the transition from childcare to school can actually increase the mental load for working mums The concept of cognitive labour (as described by Professor Leah Ruppanner) and why it still falls disproportionately on mothers The hidden logistics of school-age sport, and why I wouldn't have it any other way The beautiful moments hiding inside the chaos (yes, they're there) A few honest things that are helping me survive this season without losing my mind This episode isn't about complaining. It's about naming something that so many of us are quietly carrying, and reminding you that you are absolutely not alone. Connect with Carina and Working Mumma  Follow on Instagram  Follow Working Mumma podcast on Instagram Connect with Carina on LinkedIn Subscribe to the newsletter

    14 min
  4. 12 mai

    Feeling Lost Returning to Work After Maternity Leave? How to Rebuild Your Career Confidence with Natalie McDonald

    What happens when you return to work after maternity leave… only to be made redundant six weeks later? In this honest and deeply relatable episode of the Working Mumma Podcast, I’m joined by Natalie McDonald, founder of Working@It, former LinkedIn editor, journalist, content strategist, and mum of two. Natalie opens up about: Returning to work after maternity leave Being made redundant during the AI transformation in tech The emotional impact of redundancy as a mother Identity shifts after motherhood Building confidence after career setbacks Starting a business after redundancy Why working mums need community more than ever The importance of personal branding and networking The reality of balancing work, ambition and caregiving   This episode is for any woman who has ever questioned: “Am I still valuable after becoming a mum?” “Could this happen to me?” “How do I rebuild confidence and a career after being made redundant?” Natalie’s story is raw, empowering, practical, and incredibly validating for working mothers navigating change, uncertainty and the pressure to “hold it all together.” If you’re navigating maternity leave, returning to work, redundancy, burnout, or career transition, this conversation will make you feel seen.   Why does motherhood feel so overwhelming, even when you’re doing everything “right”? In this episode of the Working Mumma podcast, I speak with Lisa Taylor, author of The Perfect Parent Trap, about the invisible pressure modern mothers are carrying and why so many working mums feel like they’re constantly falling short. From unrealistic expectations to the mental load, Lisa unpacks how the idea of “perfect parenting” has quietly shaped how we work, parent, and judge ourselves. We explore why this pressure is hitting working mothers especially hard, and what needs to change. This is an honest, validating conversation for any mum who has ever felt: Like she’s failing at work or at home Overwhelmed by the mental load Guilty for not being “present enough” Exhausted from trying to do it all In this episode, we chat about: What the “perfect parent trap” actually is Why working mums are set up to feel like they’re failing The role of societal expectations and systemic pressures How perfectionism shows up in motherhood Practical ways to let go of unrealistic standards A new way to think about being a “good enough” parent If you’ve ever wondered “why does motherhood feel so hard?” - this episode will help you feel seen, understood, and less alone. Connect with Lisa:  Connect with Natalie on LinkedIn Find out more via Natalie's website Connect with Carina and Working Mumma  Follow on Instagram  Follow Working Mumma podcast on Instagram Connect with Carina on LinkedIn Subscribe to the newsletter

    53 min
  5. 21 avr.

    How to drop perfection in motherhood without dropping your standards with Lisa Taylor

    Why does motherhood feel so overwhelming, even when you’re doing everything “right”? In this episode of the Working Mumma podcast, I speak with Lisa Taylor, author of The Perfect Parent Trap, about the invisible pressure modern mothers are carrying and why so many working mums feel like they’re constantly falling short. From unrealistic expectations to the mental load, Lisa unpacks how the idea of “perfect parenting” has quietly shaped how we work, parent, and judge ourselves. We explore why this pressure is hitting working mothers especially hard, and what needs to change. This is an honest, validating conversation for any mum who has ever felt: Like she’s failing at work or at home Overwhelmed by the mental load Guilty for not being “present enough” Exhausted from trying to do it all In this episode, we chat about: What the “perfect parent trap” actually is Why working mums are set up to feel like they’re failing The role of societal expectations and systemic pressures How perfectionism shows up in motherhood Practical ways to let go of unrealistic standards A new way to think about being a “good enough” parent If you’ve ever wondered “why does motherhood feel so hard?” - this episode will help you feel seen, understood, and less alone. Connect with Lisa:  Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn Buy The Perfect Parent book Check out Lisa's website  Connect with Carina and Working Mumma  Follow on Instagram  Follow Working Mumma podcast on Instagram Connect with Carina on LinkedIn Subscribe to the newsletter

    51 min

À propos

Working Mumma is the podcast redefining what it means to build and have a career after having children. From the emotional rollercoaster of returning to work, to navigating identity shifts, rebuilding confidence, pay, flexibility and redesigning work to match your new life, where real stories and practical strategies meet. Because motherhood doesn’t end ambition - it reshapes it. Hosted by Carina O’Brien, mum of 2 boys, businesswoman, and founder of Working Mumma, each episode delivers relatable stories, expert interviews, and practical strategies to help you. You will hear from experts, leaders, and women like you who are juggling career and motherhood. You’re not alone in this. Tune in weekly to feel supported, empowered, and reminded that you’re doing a great job.

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