Deployed: Where Physical AI Gets Real

Brad Porter

Most robotics demos never ship. Deployed is about the ones that do. A Cobot Podcast.

  1. 4 days ago

    Don’t Automate What You Don’t Understand: From MIT to the Toyota Factory Floor with Russ Tedrake

    Russ Tedrake is a renowned roboticist, MIT professor, and founder and CEO of Walden Robotics. After decades of advancing robot locomotion, manipulation, and AI—including influential work with humanoids and the DARPA Robotics Challenge—he is now focused on bringing intelligent robots into real manufacturing environments. Russ joins Brad Porter for a candid conversation about leaving the lab for the factory floor, the practical choices behind robots that can work today, and what the physical AI boom could mean for the future of manufacturing. The conversation ultimately points toward a future where robots don’t simply replace individual tasks, they help factory workers and production engineers improve entire systems faster than ever before. 0:00 Intro 2:00 Lessons from Atlas: deforming legs and broken hands6:30 Kung-fu humanoids: entertainment vs. real-world value8:20 The real world is the ultimate eval — and the Walden pitch11:30 Humanoid or not? Wheeled base, grippers, and safety cases15:30 Why floors matter: flatness, wear, and messy facilities19:20 Generality and embodiment: how much does morphology matter?22:50 What data is actually salient? Filtering and noisy data26:50 Challenges as evals: the Amazon Picking Challenge and its alumni29:00 Capital, bubbles, and whether this time is different31:00 Reshoring, export rules, and the logistics engine33:40 Tips for founders and Chesterton's fence36:10 Factories are dynamic: co-evolving with robots37:20 The metronome effect and compounding automation gains41:15 Vibe coding the factory floor and the Toyota Production System45:30 The vibe at MIT, and closing

  2. 11 Aug

    The Founder Who Made the Web Human: Mike McCue on Netscape, Tellme & Flipboard

    Mike McCue has spent 40 years building the tools that made the web more human, Paper Software, Netscape, Tellme Networks, and Flipboard. In this episode of Deployed, he sits down with Brad Porter, the founding engineer he once recruited at Tellme, to talk about what it actually takes to ship hard technology across the internet, mobile, and AI eras. They get into the first-principles call that saved Tellme (walking away from a company-defining AT&T check), how to build teams that compound, why he shipped voice AI two decades before the world was ready, and two unforgettable Steve Jobs stories, including the day Jobs picked up an iPad and explained Flipboard's purpose better than Mike could himself.

  3. 28 Jul

    Teaching a Robot to Drive Itself: Aicha Evans on Intent, Instinct, and Real World Deployment

    Brad Porter sits down with Aicha Evans, CEO of Zoox and one of the few people who has actually put fully driverless robotaxis on public streets–no steering wheel, no safety driver, no one to take over. They get into what really happens when a robot car meets the real world.  Aicha traces her path from a childhood between Senegal and Paris–hacking the phone to call home because the bill ran a thousand dollars a month–to Intel, to the Zoox factory floor at the start of production. She dismantles the debate consuming physical AI, arguing that the models will commoditize but hardware-software integration never will, and that the real moat is people who can sit at the same table with equal decision rights.

  4. 14 Jul

    The Deal That Invented Defense Tech: Teresa Carlson on Selling What Doesn’t Exist Yet

    In 2013, Teresa Carlson led a team of four to bid against hundred-person squads for the CIA’s first commercial cloud contract. Competitors called to laugh, and she figured she’d either get promoted or fired. She won, delivered in record time, and accidentally created the playbook that made “gov tech” and “defense tech” real categories where none had existed. Before any of that she spent five years as a speech-language pathologist at the Nuremberg Hospital, transforming Romanian orphans through therapy, nutrition, and relentless contextual cueing. It is the same listening-first operating system she later used to sell Amazon, and then the US government, on ideas neither was sure it wanted. Teresa sits down with Brad to trace the line from a Kentucky clinic to the CIA’s server room to the General Catalyst Institute (recorded just before she was named Anthropic’s first Global Head of Public Sector), where she built the bridge between venture-backed startups and the world’s largest, most conservative buyer, and what “shovel-ready capability” means for companies like Cobot bringing physical AI to government today.

  5. 30 Jun

    He Built Humanoids for DARPA: Sidd Srinivasa on Why They’re the Wrong Default Robot

    Brad Porter sits down with Sidd Srinivasa, the roboticist he recruited to build Amazon’s Robotics AI org and now a professor at the University of Washington’s Allen School. They get into the gap between what robotics promised and what it actually delivered, why a robot that helps a paralyzed person eat is really a problem about dignity, why Sidd thinks the humanoid is the wrong default (“we humans are a local minimum in evolution”), why most robot demos are the easy 30 percent, and why moving the field forward takes uncommon sense: you have to be contrarian and correct.

  6. 22 Jun

    Liberating the Human Middleware: Pat Shanahan on Why AI Frees People Instead of Replacing Them

    Pat Shanahan has deployed some of the most complex systems ever built. Thirty years at Boeing on the B-2 bomber, the V-22 Osprey, the F-35, the 777, and the 787. Then Deputy and Acting Secretary of Defense under Secretary Mattis, leading a department of more than 3 million people. Then the turnaround of Spirit AeroSystems. He was elected to the National Academy of Engineering in 2019, and he helped Brad and the team at Scale AI. In this episode of Deployed, Brad Porter and Pat Shanahan get into what it actually takes to put hard new technology into the hands of the people doing the work. Pat tells the story of betting the company on designing the 777 entirely on a computer, and the moment on the factory floor when everyone was sure it would fail. They cover his rule of "only three miracles at once," why every deployment is a people problem before it's a technology problem, the difference between AI "safety" and product integrity, and why a man who has shipped at the largest scale there is wishes he could go back 20 years in his career with these tools.

  7. 2 Jun

    The Demo Was Never the Hard Part: David Mindell on What It Takes to Deploy

    Brad turns the tables on his former MIT professor, David Mindell. David is a historian, deep-ocean robotics pioneer, founder of Humatics, and now an investor in industrial transformation through his firm Unless. They trace the thread from James Watt’s steam engine to robots two miles deep in the ocean to the warehouse floor: why the demo is never the hard part, why industrial transformation runs on “human time” and takes about 30 years, why the real automation problem is too few robots rather than too many, and why — from Thinking Machines to OpenAI — there’s no technology story that isn’t a human story.

  8. 19 May

    No Such Thing as a Purely Technical Decision: Scarlett Koller From MIT to Mars to Mithril

    Brad reconnects with Scarlett Koller, who he first met as an MIT sophomore for Amazon’s original Prime Air intern cohort, back when drone delivery was a “60 Minutes” segment, not a product. She’s since delivered on SpaceX Crew Dragon, NASA Perseverance, and Amazon Kuiper, and now runs Mithril , a deep tech startup reshaping space sensing. They trade stories on why NASA’s shuttle veterans cared so much about a simple handle, why people are harder to engineer than radiation, and how an antenna the size of a volleyball court, controlled to the thickness of a sheet of paper, could keep us from losing low Earth orbit.

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Most robotics demos never ship. Deployed is about the ones that do. A Cobot Podcast.

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  • Creator
    Brad Porter
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    13
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2026 Brad Porter

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