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Gone are the days of coherent international coordination. Rather than working together to solve pressing crises, many of the world’s most powerful states are actively making those crises worse. The result? We’re living through a novel historical era: The Global Enduring Disorder.
The Disorder podcast teases out the key principles that connect seemingly disparate challenges: from Climate Change to Tax Havens, to Unregulated Cyberspace, to the Wars in Ukraine, Syria, and Libya. Jason Pack, NATO Foundation Senior Analyst, and Alexandra Hall Hall, a former British Ambassador, discuss with world-leading experts, senior diplomats and cultural icons, the fundamental principles lurking behind today’s global issues.
At the conclusion of each episode, they will be proposing inventive, win-win solutions to the globe’s most pressing challenges aka, ‘Ordering the Disorder’.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com
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Ep13. It’s getting hot in here
Climate change is the perfect example of what happens on a pressing global challenge when no one leads, or even takes responsibility, for a collective action problem – nothing happens, the crisis builds until it becomes seemingly unmanageable/unfixable. Without strong collective action and tough compromises, climate change will get more and more geopolitically intractable making life saving compromises even harder.
In this episode, Fiona Harvey explores the importance coordination mechanisms such as COP summits, while Arthur Snell explores the vulnerability of developing island states, the potential next climate great battleground -- the Arctic -- and the role medium powers such as the UK could play in coordinating climate policy.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/nato-and-adversaries
Producer: George McDonagh
Exec Producer: Neil Fearn
Show Notes Links
For more from Fiona Harvey, visit here
Listen to Arthur Snell’s podcast, Behind The Lines, here
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Bonus Episode: NATO, Europe, China, and the Israel-Hamas War
In a special Thanksgiving bonus episode of the podcast, Jason is joined by Alessandro Politi, the Director of the NATO Defense College Foundation in Rome. They discuss: Alessandro’s Axis lineage, what role if any NATO has in the Middle East, what Europe’s unique role should be in the Israel-Hamas war (potentially as a counterbalance to America), how global affairs look from Taiwan (where Alessandro just was), and whether the Ukraine-Russia and Israel-Gaza Wars might act as a detonator for larger US and China tensions.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/nato-and-adversaries
Producer: George McDonagh
Exec Producer: Neil Fearn
Show Notes Links
Read Alessandro’s writing on China here
More on the NATO Defense College Foundation can be found here
Listen to Jason appearing alongside Gershon Baskin discussing hostage negotiations and scenarios for Post-War Gaza here
For more on what Europe is proposing in the Middle East, read ‘Germany suggests UN take control in Gaza after Israel-Hamas war ends’ here
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Ep12. Neo-Populism in the US with Tom Malinowski
In this week’s episode, Alex and Jason are joined by former US congressman Tom Malinowski (D-NJ). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Malinowski. In addition to talking about why Tom ziplined to his wedding, they discuss: how to end the war in Ukraine, smear campaigns in American elections, Russian misinformation, why democracy seems to be on the back foot globally, how American and British Neo-populism is connected to the rise of authoritarianism abroad, and why the US and UK experience so many structural inefficiencies when building railroads and highways.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Read Tom’s thoughts about how to end the war in Ukraine, here: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/18/how-to-end-ukraine-war-00111752
Producer: George McDonagh
Exec Producer: Neil Fearn
Show Notes Links
For more on Tom, visit https://twitter.com/Malinowski
Subscribe to the Disorder Show Monthly Newsletter here
Read Jason’s recent writing, ‘The Road to Middle East Peace Runs Through Doha’ here
For all who are interested in 'the definitive' reading of how The Global Enduring Disorder (including the divisiveness and ineffectiveness of Neopopulism) caused the war in Gaza listen to Yuval Noah Harari on Sam Harris’s Making Sense here
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Ep11. The Psychology of Chaos
Diplomacy is a game, and geopolitics is a psychological sport. Though we may root for the ‘democratic good guys’, it is often the disordering ‘autocratic bad guys’ that achieve their aims through effective use of psychological tactics like bluffing and intimidation.
In this episode, we meet Jonathan Powell, Tony Blair’s former Chief of Staff, who helped negotiate landmark treaties like the Good Friday Agreement. He tells us how our leaders could use various skills to get to mutually beneficial agreements. We’ll also meet Kenneth Dekleva, a former US diplomat and a Professor of Psychiatry, who will present certain ways we can psychologically outfox disorderers like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/nato-and-adversaries
Producer: George McDonagh
Exec Producer: Neil Fearn
Show Notes Links
Jonathan Powell’s Majestic work on the Negotiations in Northern Ireland is here
Get Kenneth Dekleva’s latest books. The Last Violinist here
Read a recent article by Kenneth here
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Ep10. How international actors can stabilize the ongoing Israel-Hamas War and prevent a regional escalation
In this episode, Alex Hall Hall talks to Tom Fletcher, the former British Ambassador to Lebanon. Tom and Alex discuss the Palestinian refugee and surrounding Arab states narratives as an entry point to examine whether there’s any risk of the war spreading. They delve deeper into: the rationale for humanitarian de-escalation, the interests and motives of players like Lebanon, Hezbollah and Iran, and what international actors like the UK, the US and the UN need to be doing to stabilize the situation, and how they can be working towards longer term solutions.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com
Producer: George McDonagh
Exec Producer: Neil Fearn
Show Notes Links
Read Tom Fletcher’s writing around this issue at here
You can listen to Jason’s take on the regional context on the PREVAIL podcast here
You can read current Alex’s writing around this issue here
Read, As dark as things seem, the war in Gaza could end up restarting the peace process here
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Ep9. The 2023 Israeli - Hamas war: Could the Qataris help us order the disorder
As the Israeli-Hamas war enters a new phase, Alex and Jason discuss how hard it is to speak publicly and diplomatically about an issue that’s become so partisan and so emotive. Plus: the pair talk about Jason’s idea for interim post-war governance of Gaza involving a Qatari-Saudi-Egyptian-Emirati condominium which would need to be mediated by American and British diplomats. Although only a medium-term solution, Jason believes it could give key regional players a stake in forging peace in the region.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com
Producer: George McDonagh
Exec Producer: Neil Fearn
Show Notes Links
Read Jason’s Article, “Qatar is the key to peace in postwar Gaza” here
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Customer Reviews
Insightful
Thoughtful discussions and well researched.
An informative pod
An informative, though-provoking and (appears to be) well-researched podcast. I enjoy listening to it when I am trying to order the disorder in my flat - there’s nothing like pondering whether the mess in your kitchen is caused by lapses in the US foreign policy or global disorders 😁
Strange choice of host
Worth noting that the host is an extremely political former civil servant who writes for the bonkers conspiratorial magazine “Byline Times”. Just a glance at the stuff she writes on twitter would illustrate to the listener that she isn’t a reasonable observer or credible authority on global events. Strange choice of host