Drum History Bart Vanderzee

Part 2 covers the cymbal series including the 602's, Giant Beats, 2002, 404, 505, Signature, and many more. We discuss the USA and European distributors of Paiste Cymbals, plus the more affordable lower line cymbals that are still collectible and cymbal care and cleaning.
Dan Garza isa die hard Paiste enthusiast and the moderator of the Paiste section on Cymbal.Wiki. Here are the links provided by Dan for more Paiste information:
Dan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV5P6pbrDcLUXs4y3KSK8EA

Paiste Cymbals
https://www.facebook.com/paistecompany

Paiste Cymbals New and Vintage
https://www.facebook.com/groups/185747971524740

Paiste vintage cymbals
https://www.facebook.com/groups/528704867196724

Paiste Wiki Fans of the World
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1625307324174814

Paiste Sound Creation & SC ND & FO 602
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1708983262518911

Paiste 2002
https://www.facebook.com/groups/57292836702/

Paiste Giant Beats, Dixies, 4o4s, Stambuls, Ludwig Standards
https://www.facebook.com/groups/575719383757754

Paiste 505
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1676616175891815/

Paiste 3000 Cymbals and Hihats
https://www.facebook.com/groups/131081820851051

kleinanzeigen Ebay; https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-paiste/k0

German Ebay: https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=paiste&_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=4&Marke=Paiste&_dcat=41441&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1

Mercatino musicale: https://www.mercatinomusicale.com/ann/search.asp?kw=paiste&rp=4&ct=&ch=&mc=&gp=2&st=&p1=&p2=&rg=&pv=&vt=&pc=&sg=&pn=&ob=data

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German shop: https://www.germanshop24.com/non-food/household/cleaning-supplies/mr.-muscle-stainless-steel-cleaner/

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Pat Petrillo shares tons of great info including what it is like to be featured on the cover of Modern Drummer, his Instagram series about breaking down actual sticking of Ringo's parts, and we discuss his great new album, "The Power Station Sessions". Pat also gives us a history lesson on the nuances and differences between R&B and Funk drumming and we discuss some of the great products that he has developed for our industry over the years!
Keep up with Pat and check out his album at https://patpdrummer.com/
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Thanks to the Rogers Drums USA group for sponsoring this episode. Join the group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1665871023670039

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This episode is a deep dive into the nuances of collecting Vintage Paiste Cymbals with Dan Garza, a die hard Paiste enthusiast and the moderator of the Paiste section on Cymbal.Wiki. We cover everything from the different alloys that are used in production, the variations in serial numbers, production techniques, and all the cymbal lines up to the 70's (that will continue on in part 2). Dan also talks a lot about what makes Paiste so special and different from the other major cymbal manufacturers and why some lines have become so extremely valuable over the years. Stay tune for Part 2!
Here are the links provided by Dan for more Paiste information:

Dan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV5P6pbrDcLUXs4y3KSK8EA

Paiste Cymbals
https://www.facebook.com/paistecompany

Paiste Cymbals New and Vintage
https://www.facebook.com/groups/185747971524740

Paiste vintage cymbals
https://www.facebook.com/groups/528704867196724

Paiste Wiki Fans of the World
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1625307324174814

Paiste Sound Creation & SC ND & FO 602
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1708983262518911

Paiste 2002
https://www.facebook.com/groups/57292836702/

Paiste Giant Beats, Dixies, 4o4s, Stambuls, Ludwig Standards
https://www.facebook.com/groups/575719383757754

Paiste 505
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1676616175891815/

Paiste 3000 Cymbals and Hihats
https://www.facebook.com/groups/131081820851051

kleinanzeigen Ebay; https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-paiste/k0

German Ebay: https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=paiste&_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=4&Marke=Paiste&_dcat=41441&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1

Mercatino musicale: https://www.mercatinomusicale.com/ann/search.asp?kw=paiste&rp=4&ct=&ch=&mc=&gp=2&st=&p1=&p2=&rg=&pv=&vt=&pc=&sg=&pn=&ob=data

tutti.ch: https://www.tutti.ch/de/q/instrumente/Ak6ZwYWlzdGWybXVzaWNhbEluc3RydW1lbnRzlJGSp29yZ2FuaWOldHV0dGnAwMA?sorting=newest&page=1&query=paiste

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Anthony has been on a mission to discover as much as he can on the history of the legendary Covington era of Rogers Drums! Anthony and his Rogers friends are using state of the art techniques to test the species of each ply on various shells to determine the make up of the shells, and he is utilizing the research that the generation before him has compiled. This has allowed him to put together a comprehensive look at the Rogers drums that were made in the small town of Covington, Ohio between 1954 and 1968. This small town was producing some of the finest drums in the world at this point and was beloved by some of the greatest players in the world such as Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson!
Here is a link to the episode about the history of Rogers Drums with Po Shy and Jeff Burke : https://youtu.be/93bfAD5w7Vo
Here is Anthonys great Rogers YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@rogersdrumvideos
and The Rogers Facebook Groups -
Rogers Drums USA: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1665871023670039
Covington Drummers: https://www.facebook.com/groups/445087259289998
Rogers Drums - Buy and Sell: https://www.facebook.com/groups/440357052700555

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Vincent gives us a deep dive into the history of the American made Zildjian Cymbals from 1929 up through the 1990s. We talk about all the various stamps through he generations that can be used to identify vintage A. Zildjian cymbals, along with notes on the hammering, lathing, and bell size that can help you determine collectibility and value of a vintage Zildjian cymbal. Vincent shares his 9 step process of determining if a cymbal is a good purchase which includes everything from the shape of the cymbal to the source you purchase it from, and everything in between.
We touch a little bit on the Turkish made K. Zildjians, but more info will come on that down the road!
Here is a link to the full Zildjian history episode with Paul Francis: https://youtu.be/i0l-Vw6W1UY
Here are some helpful guides to date your cymbals:
https://black.net.nz/avedis/avedis-by-years.html
https://robscott.net/cymbals/a-zildjian/
https://www.hidehitters.com/cymbals/Zildjianstamps/timeline.html
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Enjoy this classic episode from 2020! We are lead to believe that the bass drum pedal was invented in the USA, and that the drum set as we know it today was first created in the states - but Fritz shares examples that show many revolutionary drum inventions that were first created in Europe. We also discuss brands like Sonor, Trixon, Paiste, plus drumming and drum building in communist countries and many other great facts and stories along the way.
Fritz is a veteran in the drum industry and has owned and operated DrumHouse Freiberg since 2001 in Germany. He brings a very unique knowledge base to the show and shares lots of information that I have never heard anywhere else. Check out the DrumHouse here: https://www.drumhouse.com/
Enjoy this episode!

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