Ethical Schools

Ethical Schools

Amy and Jon talk with educational innovators about creating ethical learning environments, helping students overcome the effects of trauma, and empowering young people to make change. Tune in weekly.

  1. What teens deserve: A creative out-of-school program

    5 days ago

    What teens deserve: A creative out-of-school program

    Jon speaks with Dr. David Penberg, who ran the Liberty  Partnership Program at Bank Street College in the 1990s, and two of the participants, Madelyn Baez, and Tara Crichlow. Three decades later, Madelyn, Tara, and David explain how the program changed the trajectory of their lives. The Liberty Partnership was created as a college prep intervention for underserved and marginalized middle school students.   For the participants, it was a safe place of "uncomfortable empowerment" where their opinions were taken seriously in a simultaneously supportive and challenging environment. Overview 00:00-00:45 Intro 00:45-01:56 Liberty Partnership Program (LPP) origin and description 01:56-03:36 What LPP felt like to Madelyn and Tara 03:36-07:03 LPP structure and goals 07:03-09:40 How Madelyn and Tara joined 09:40-14:42 How experiences in the program were different from school 14:42-19:10 Environmental conversations 19:10-19:24 Trip to China 19:24-20:49 Asset-based program; not about “fixing” the young people 20:49-23:03 Opportunities and relationships 23:03-26:04 “Uncomfortable empowerment” 26:04-26:50 Options, opportunities, exposure, experience 26:50-30:37 Bank Street as a place of safety and empowerment during time of demonization  of young people of color after Central Park jogger case 30:37-35:03 Impact on students’ relationships with families and friends 35:03-37:02 Impact on David’s life 37:02-37:52 Remembering youths who died 37:52-40:51 The larger Bank Street environment 40:51-42:15 The “pure love” of the LPP community 42:15- Outro Transcript Click here to see the full transcription of this episode.  Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

    44 min
  2. Literature as identity-affirming, teaching as liberatory

    19 May

    Literature as identity-affirming, teaching as liberatory

    Dr. Chantal Francois and Dr. Jen McLaughlin Cahill, co-authors of Identity-Affirming Literacies in Schools, discuss their time at the school they call Pearl Street Collaborative, a progressive secondary school on Manhattan’s Lower East Side that prioritizes teacher inquiry and collaboration. Schedules include time for teachers to meet frequently with grade and content colleagues. Drawing on the work of Freire and Lilia Bartolomé, Drs. Francois and McLaughlin Cahill used literature to support students' identities, including by integrating an LGBTQ+ focus into English classes.   Overview 00:00-00:52 Intros 00:52-03:36 Humanizing pedagogy 03:36-04:44 Relationships and humanizing pedagogy 04:44-07:35 Scheduling facilitating creation and maintenance of faculty relationships 07:35-10:04 Collaboration as modeling for students 10:04-10:21 Pearl Street Collaborative 10:21-13:24 Literacy as more than reading 13:24-18:53 Reading and teaching as political 18:53-23:17 Mission statement as a meaningful document 23:17-31:23 Structuring literacy instruction around independent reading and reading whole books 31:23-36:44 LGBTQ+ identify-affirming literacies 36:44-40:34 Impact on students of LGBTQ+ focus 40:34- Outro References Book Identity-Affirming Literacies in Schools by Dr. Chantal Francois and Dr. Jen McLaughlin Cahill: buy it on Routledge or find it on Amazon Article by  Dr. Lilia Bartolomé "Beyond the methods fetish: Toward a humanizing pedagogy" Transcript Click here to see the full transcription of this episode.  Soundtrack by Podington Bear

    42 min
  3. School Choice: Who Does the Choosing?

    12 Mar

    School Choice: Who Does the Choosing?

    We welcome back Dr. Ujju Aggarwal, assistant professor at The New School, to speak about her book, Unsettling Choice: Race, Rights, and the Partitioning of Public Education. In Unsettling Choice, Dr. Aggarwal focuses on the intersection of public education and gentrification. The book is based on her work with mothers at a Head Start center in NYC. We discuss the race and class discrimination the parents faced and whether exclusion is inherent in school choice programs. Overview 00:00-00:56 Intros 00:56-07:13 Working with Head Start mothers in Manhattan’s Community School District 3 07:13-09:15 Connection between school choice and austerity 09:15-19:17 Issues mothers faced in choosing schools for their children and their experiences 19:17-24:06 The “post-Brown realignment” following the Brown v Board of Education Supreme Court decisions 24:06-25:30 Parents as “consumers” rather than as “citizens” 25:30-28:01 Can school choice exist without exclusion 28:01-29:03 NYC Schools Chancellor Samuels and citywide integration 29:03-32:21 Radical municipalism 32:21- Outro Transcript Click here to listen to see the full transcript of this episode.  References Book "Unsettling Choice: Race, Rights, and the Partitioning of Public Education" by Dr. Ujju Aggarwal Listen to our first interview "Ujju Aggarwal on school choice, whiteness as property, and the “right to exclude” published in 2019 Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

    34 min
  4. Trump cutbacks and policies: stripping minority student protections

    16 Feb

    Trump cutbacks and policies: stripping minority student protections

    We speak with Derek Black, Constitutional law professor at the University of South Carolina School of Law, about the impact of Trump administration’s policies on students’ civil rights. Department of Education offices meant to ensure students are not subject to discrimination have been decimated. The Department of Justice has switched from protecting minority students' rights to focusing on so-called “discrimination" against whites and attacking transgender students. Professor Black also says the need for "circuit breakers" on executive power transcends this administration. Overview 00:00-00:52 Intros 00:52:02:21 Threats to students’ protection from discrimination 02:21-03:53 Status of complaints to Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights (OCR) 03:53-05:30 Importance of access to OCR without an attorney 05:30-10:09 OCR procedures and remedies 10:09-13:55 Role Department of Justice is supposed to have in protecting students against discrimination; Trump Administration priorities 13:55-17:01 How the Administration’s approach is schizophrenic 17:01-23:10 Ethical quandaries facing district administrators 23:10-24:43 Supplementing not supplanting: What happens when the Department of Education is no longer monitoring 24:43-27:21 The uncertainty factor—who gets focused on 27:21-30:36 State Departments of Education: How they fit in 30:36-34:11 Theatrics at US Department of Education 34:11-38:00 Problems before the Trump Administration and what would be important afterwards 38:00-40:11 Some specifics of “circuit breakers” that could reduce executive power 40:11- Outro Transcript Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. References   Our first interview with Derek Black happened in 2021. Click here to listen to "The attack on public education: Will public schools survive?"   Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

    41 min

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Amy and Jon talk with educational innovators about creating ethical learning environments, helping students overcome the effects of trauma, and empowering young people to make change. Tune in weekly.