The Scalepoint Podcast

Martin Koderisch

The Scalepoint Podcast, hosted by Martin Koderisch, and brought to you by Scalepoint Partners. I meet with founders and experts in payments, fintech, and SaaS to explore how to build a business sustainably, profitably, and often without relying on big external funding.

  1. 09/06/2025

    José Manuel Peral Cortés, From Bootstrap to Exit: Lessons in Fintech, Funding, and Control

    In this episode of The Scale Point Podcast, Martin is joined by José Manuel Peral Cortés, co-founder of FinTK Consulting. José reflects candidly on his entrepreneurial journey—starting with Easy Payment Gateway, which he helped build from scratch and eventually exited to Global Payments. From bootstrapping and building early product-market fit, to navigating investor misalignment and watching competitors outpace on valuation and visibility, José offers hard-won insights into what it really takes to grow and exit a fintech startup in Europe. He recounts building one of the earliest orchestration platforms before “orchestration” was even part of the industry’s vocabulary—serving high-risk merchants and solving for complex routing and integration challenges that many didn’t yet know they had. “We were too early. Back in 2012, no one in Europe was talking about orchestration—except maybe gambling and forex companies. They had the pain and they understood it. That’s who we went after.” As the company scaled, José shares the highs and lows of fundraising in a market where venture capital lacked fintech expertise—and how chasing valuations came at the cost of long-term strategic alignment. “We raised around €25 million, but lost control along the way. Our investors had capital but not the right context. They didn’t understand that fintech is a long game—you get to profitability in year eight, not year three.” The sale to Global Payments was a milestone, but also a cautionary tale. José and his co-founder exited the company just as they had secured an acquiring licence—missing what he believes could have been their breakthrough moment. “We were competing with Checkout at the same size. Imagine what could’ve happened if we’d had the right backers with the right vision.” This is a must-listen episode for founders, fintech operators, and investors alike—especially those thinking seriously about the trade-offs between bootstrapping, strategic capital, and sustainable growth in payments. 00:00 – Intro and welcome 01:00 – José’s early career and the founding of Easy Payment Gateway 03:00 – Bootstrapping, MVP building, and early product-market fit in high-risk verticals 05:00 – Explaining orchestration before it was mainstream 07:00 – The challenges of raising VC in Spain and early-stage Europe 09:00 – Exit dynamics: dilution, board control, and investor misalignment 13:00 – What went wrong: missed opportunities, license timing, and reflections on valuation 17:00 – Life after exit: from Cabify to co-founding FinTK Consulting 20:00 – What FinTK does and why they remain senior and selective 23:00 – Future ambitions: branding, M&A, and expanding expert-led services 25:00 – Rise of the expert “virtual bench” in consulting 26:00 – Payments innovation: instant rails, stablecoins, and new protocols 30:00 – BEUM explained: Spain’s instant A2A success story 31:00 – Wrap-up and final thoughts Resources & Mentions: https://fintkconsulting.com Guest: José Manuel Peral Cortés on LinkedIn

    32 min
  2. 13/05/2025

    Parijat Banerjee, Global Head of FS at Latent View Analytics: Evolution and Impact of APIs and AI in BFSI Sectors

    In this episode of the Scalepoint Podcast, I sit down with Parijat Banerjee, Global Head of Financial Services at Latent View Analytics, to discuss the transformative role of APIs and AI in the banking, financial services, and insurance (BFSI) sector, as well as the healthcare insurance ecosystem. They explore the shift of APIs from backend technical enablers to crucial front-end commercial products and delve into case studies illustrating their impact on open banking, regulatory compliance, and customer experience. They also discuss the challenges and benefits of AI in healthcare, focusing on data fragmentation, predictive analytics, and personalised care. The episode concludes with practical advice for organizations looking to leverage AI and data-driven strategies, highlighting the importance of robust data architectures and collaborative partnerships. ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/parijat-banerjee-752a318/⁠ 00:00 Introduction to the Scale Point Podcast 00:25 Meet Perri Jets Banerjee: Global Head of Financial Services at Latent View Analytics 01:15 The Evolution of APIs in Financial Services 02:48 Open Banking and Regulatory Compliance 04:14 APIs: Enhancing Customer Experience and Market Competition 06:39 Geographical Differences in API Commercialization 08:23 The Unbundling and Rebundling of Financial Services 12:49 Challenges of Legacy Technology in Banking 15:25 Introduction to Healthcare Insurance Ecosystem 18:11 Data Flow Challenges in Healthcare 18:58 AI and APIs: Transforming Healthcare 20:13 Case Study: Data Integration in Healthcare 22:17 The Role of APIs in Data Transformation 23:10 AI's Impact on Data Consolidation 23:48 Improving Digital Adoption and Reducing Costs 26:00 Creating a Comprehensive Member DNA 27:26 Leveraging AI for Faster Data Processing 29:22 Practical Advice for AI Transformation 31:08 The Importance of Data Foundations 38:07 Balancing Build, Buy, and Partner Strategies 43:00 The Future of AI and Partnerships 45:09 Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

    40 min
  3. 28/04/2025

    Panagiotis Kriaris, Director and Head of Business & Corporate Development at Unzer: The Blueprint for Fintech Partnerships and Sustainable Growth

    In this episode of The Scalepoint Podcast, Martin is joined by Panagiotis Kriaris, Director and Head of Business & Corporate Development at Unzer.  We explore: The evolution of fintech partnerships: from competition to collaboration with banks Why partnerships have become a key accelerator for innovation—and why execution matters Different partnership models: strategic alliances, acquisitions, and standalone digital innovation centres The shift from high-growth-at-any-cost to sustainable, profitability-focused fintech models The critical role of software in payments, embedded finance, and vertical ecosystems Lessons from the Banking-as-a-Service (BaaS) boom—and the new compliance pressures reshaping the model How embedded finance and the rise of vertical SaaS are changing SME banking The growing importance of data, AI, and platform strategies in financial services What startups can learn about sustainable growth, pivoting, and building capital-efficient businesses 02:17 Understanding FinTech Partnerships 05:32 Challenges and Evolution in FinTech 11:54 The Role of Software in Financial Services 17:08 Banking as a Service: Current Trends and Challenges 18:51 Understanding Embedded Finance 19:45 The Role of Regulatory Scrutiny 20:52 Comparing US and European Regulatory Models 22:11 The Rising Cost of Compliance 22:22 Fintechs and Compliance Challenges 24:37 Emerging Trends in Fintech 27:01 Balancing Innovation and Sustainability 30:00 Pivoting for Sustainable Growth 34:13 AI's Role in Fintech 36:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    37 min
  4. 27/04/2025

    Martin Della Chiesa, CEO of Skaleet: Next-Generation Core Banking Platform Reshaping How Financial Institutions Approach Digital Transformation

    In this episode of The Scalepoint Podcast, Martin sits down with Martin della Chiesa, CEO of Skaleet - a next-generation core banking platform that’s reshaping how financial institutions approach digital transformation. In a market often paralysed by too much choice and too little clarity, Martin stresses the importance of guidance and execution. Banks aren’t making routine procurement decisions—they’re taking on high-stakes, long-cycle investments that define their future architecture and customer experience. As he puts it, “Banks don’t buy core banking systems every morning. This isn’t a baguette—it’s a once-in-a-generation decision. Our job is to show the ‘how’ and de-risk the journey.” Despite spending billions annually, the industry remains mired in frustration. “Sixty to seventy billion dollars are spent on core banking every year—and still, everybody’s complaining,” he notes. The issue isn’t just outdated technology, but entrenched complexity, rigidity, and risk. Skaleet offers an alternative to the monolithic legacy stack: a modular, API-native platform built for speed, control, and real-world results. “You cannot be the best in everything you do,” he adds, advocating for composable architectures that allow banks to integrate best-of-breed solutions—without having to reinvent the wheel. “Every time someone has to write code in a project, it’s a risk.” Topics Covered: Martin’s journey from investor to operator: From his days at Long Arc Capital to becoming CEO of Skaleet, Martin shares how his background in strategy, private equity, and board governance led him to step into the role and drive the company’s next phase of growth. What is core banking anyway? Martin offers a clear explanation of core banking platforms and why they serve as the nervous system of any financial institution—from account management to payments and loans. The legacy paradox: Banks globally spend billions on IT—yet dissatisfaction with core systems remains high. We unpack the “fear of what’s next” and the inertia holding back transformation. Modern vs legacy architecture: Real-time capabilities, modular design, and open APIs are no longer optional. Martin breaks down why traditional, batch-based, monolithic systems can’t keep up—and how modern platforms like Skaleet offer a better way. Transformation pathways: From greenfield digital banks to modular renovation strategies and speedboat models, Martin shares practical approaches for institutions looking to modernise without sinking the ship. Growth strategy at Skaleet: Focus is the name of the game. Martin outlines Skaleet’s approach to scaling in Europe and Africa, combining modern tech with pre-integrated, best-of-breed ecosystems and a delivery model built for predictability and speed. The build vs buy dilemma: We explore the pros and cons of DIY banking platforms versus more guided solutions—and why too much choice can paralyse decision-makers. People as the API: Martin emphasises the need for cross-functional talent to bridge the gap between bankers and technologists, and how Skaleet is building its team and partner ecosystem accordingly. What’s next for banking in Europe? With PSD3, FIDA, and DORA on the horizon, regulatory pressure is rising. Martin shares how modern infrastructure is becoming a necessity, not a luxury, and why localisation, data sovereignty, and ecosystem collaboration will define the next five years. Connect with Martin della Chiesa: Website: www.skaleet.com  00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:44 Martin's Professional Journey 03:59 Overview of Skaleet 05:41 Challenges in Core Banking Systems 13:57 Transformation Pathways for Banks 18:04 Growth Strategy and Future of Open Banking 29:27 Market Evolution and Regulatory Impact 33:41 Conclusion and Contact Information

    35 min
  5. 13/03/2025

    Gautam Pillai, Head of FinTech, Peel Hunt Investment Bank: What’s Next for UK FinTech & IPOs? Insights from an Investment Banker

    In this episode of the Scalepoint podcast, Martin interviews Gautam Pillai, head of FinTech at UK Investment Bank Peel Hunt. Gautam discusses the current state of the UK IPO market and shares his experiences and strategies as an investment banker adapting to market changes. He provides an overview of his career journey, from starting as a programmer at Cognizant to his role at Goldman Sachs and eventually leading a FinTech franchise at Peel Hunt. The conversation delves into the cyclical nature of IPO markets, the impact of the 2022 market shift, and the exciting innovations in the UK FinTech sector. Gautam also touches on the challenges and strategies for UK companies considering IPOs, the importance of scalable and disruptive business models, and the potential for UK pension fund investment reforms. He concludes by discussing the dynamic nature of the private sector and the readiness of late-stage companies for IPOs. This episode is packed with valuable insights for investors, founders, and anyone interested in the FinTech landscape.00:00 Introduction and Guest Background00:56 Career Journey in FinTech03:27 State of the UK IPO Market03:48 Impact of Market Cycles on IPOs06:10 Challenges and Opportunities in FinTech IPOs08:12 Considerations for Listing in the UK vs. US15:13 Innovation and Growth in UK FinTech18:58 Market Recovery and Founder Sentiments19:39 Private Sector Activities and FinTech Universe20:10 Neobanks and Payment Innovations23:45 Cross-Border Payments and FinTech Infrastructure25:57 WealthTech and Emerging Companies28:48 Evaluating Business Models and Scalability32:08 Trends in IPOs and Private Markets35:44 Conclusion and Contact Information

    37 min

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The Scalepoint Podcast, hosted by Martin Koderisch, and brought to you by Scalepoint Partners. I meet with founders and experts in payments, fintech, and SaaS to explore how to build a business sustainably, profitably, and often without relying on big external funding.