The Fit2 Perform Podcast

with Steffan Lloyd-Evans and Bobby Windebank

Join us for candid conversations with top-performing arts industry guests, no-nonsense fitness & wellness tips, and expert advice tailored to the unique demands of performers. Whether it’s Guest Episodes featuring inspiring stories, Talk Episodes diving into relatable challenges, or Expert Episodes packed with actionable insights, there’s something here for everyone striving to thrive on and off the stage. 15+ years of experience as personal trainers and West End performers, your hosts Steffan Lloyd-Evans and Bobby bring a uniquely entertaining and practical perspectiv to health and fitness.

  1. 295. Bulk or Cut? The Truth About Looking and Feeling Amazing as a Performer

    21 HR AGO

    295. Bulk or Cut? The Truth About Looking and Feeling Amazing as a Performer

    “You want to look better. Feel better. Perform better. But should you be cutting… or bulking?” In this episode of The Fit2 Perform Podcast, Bobby and Steffan tackle one of the most common questions performers ask and one of the most misunderstood areas in fitness.   Because most people are told to jump straight into a fat loss phase… eat less, do more, get lean. But what if that’s actually the reason you feel stuck, tired, and frustrated with your body? This episode breaks down the real strategy behind building a physique you’re proud of, while actually feeling good in the process. 💡 What We Cover 🔥 Why most people default to cutting first (and why it backfires) The fitness industry loves quick wins, but fast fat loss often leads to muscle loss, low energy, and a slower metabolism. ⚖️ The difference between bulking and cutting What they actually mean, how they work, and why understanding this changes everything. 🏋️ Why building muscle should come first More muscle = higher metabolism, more food, better performance, and a physique that actually looks the way you want. 🍽️ How eating more can help you get leaner Yes, really. Build first, then refine. Not the other way around. 😴 Why extreme diets make you feel awful Low energy, brain fog, poor performance… and why that’s not the goal. 🎭 The performer perspective You don’t just need to look good, you need to function. Energy, resilience, and consistency matter more than a short-term aesthetic win. ✅ Key Takeaways • If you want to feel amazing, build muscle first • Cutting too early lowers your metabolism and makes progress harder • More muscle = more food, better energy, better performance • You don’t need extreme diets or endless cardio • The goal is not just to look good, it’s to feel good doing your job Because the real win isn’t just how you look in the mirror… It’s how you feel on stage, in rehearsals, and in your day-to-day life.

    24 min
  2. 294. How to Get Visible Abs (Without Wrecking Your Performance)

    23 MAR

    294. How to Get Visible Abs (Without Wrecking Your Performance)

    “You don’t need to starve yourself, smash endless cardio, or do 1,000 crunches a day… to get visible abs.” In this episode of The Fit2 Perform Podcast, Bobby and Steffan break down one of the most requested goals in the performing arts world and cut through the noise around how to actually achieve it. Because while visible abs are often seen as the “ultimate physique goal”, most performers are chasing them in ways that are unsustainable, unhealthy, and completely unnecessary. This episode gives you the real, performance-first approach. 💡 What We Cover 🧠 Why everyone wants abs (and why that’s okay) Let’s address it properly. Wanting visible abs isn’t vanity, it’s confidence. And it’s a valid goal when approached in a healthy way. ⚖️ The two things that actually determine visible abs Body fat levels and muscle size. That’s it. No magic tricks, no shortcuts. 🔥 Why cardio alone won’t get you there The “endless cardio” approach can leave you smaller, weaker, and stuck in a cycle that doesn’t last. 🏋️ Training abs like a muscle Stop treating abs differently. Load them, train them properly, and build them like you would any other muscle group. 🚫 The truth about spot reduction You cannot target fat loss in one area. No matter how many crunches you do. Sorry. 🧬 Genetics and expectations Everyone’s abs look different. Your structure matters, but that doesn’t mean results aren’t achievable. ✅ Key Takeaways • Visible abs come from body fat levels AND muscle development • Train abs with resistance, not just high reps • Avoid extreme dieting and excessive cardio • You cannot spot reduce fat from your stomach • Build a strong body first, aesthetics follow Because the goal isn’t just to look good for one moment… It’s to feel confident, strong, and capable every time you step on stage. 👉 Tune in now to How to Get Visible Abs (Without Wrecking Your Performance) on The Fit2 Perform Podcast. Got a question for the show? Email us at talk@fit-2.co.uk or message us on Instagram @fit2performwestend

    31 min
  3. 293. How Performers Stay Fit on Tour (China Update)

    16 MAR

    293. How Performers Stay Fit on Tour (China Update)

    Steffan is reporting in from the other side of the world. In this episode of The Fit2 Perform Podcast, Bobby and Steffan attempt their first long distance recording, navigating time zones, tech glitches, and questionable internet connections while catching up on life on tour in China. But beyond the travel stories, the big question for performers is this: How do you train, eat well, and stay consistent when you’re living out of hotels, performing every night, and your routine is completely upside down? Because the reality of performing life is constant movement, unpredictable schedules, and environments that don’t always support your training goals. This episode breaks down how to stay strong, energised, and consistent even when your schedule is chaos. 💡 What We Cover 🌏 The China update Life performing abroad, stage door fans, unexpected gifts, and how different theatre culture can be around the world. 🏋️ Training while travelling or on tour Why performers often default to too much cardio and conditioning when travelling, and how resistance training can be a better use of your limited gym time. ⏱️ Short sessions still work Even 20 minute workouts can deliver great results if they focus on the right movements and are done consistently. 🧠 Avoiding the overtraining trap When rehearsals and shows already demand a lot from your body, your gym training should support performance, not drain it. 🥢 Nutrition on the road How to navigate unfamiliar food environments, find protein sources, and keep nutrition simple when you’re living out of hotels. ✅ Key Takeaways • Short, focused resistance sessions can be incredibly effective. • Avoid overdoing cardio when your show schedule is already demanding. • Prioritise consistency over perfect training environments. • Keep nutrition simple and focus on whole foods where possible. • Touring life doesn’t have to derail your training if you keep the basics in place. Because performers don’t train in perfect conditions. They train in real life, with travel, rehearsals, and late nights included. 👉 Tune in now to Training With Tour Schedules & The China Update on The Fit2 Perform Podcast. Got a question for the show? Email us at talk@fit-2.co.uk or message us on Instagram @fit2performwestend.

    31 min
  4. 292. The Most Underrated Performance Enhancer

    9 MAR

    292. The Most Underrated Performance Enhancer

    What’s the single most underrated performance enhancer for performers? It’s not a supplement. It’s not a fancy exercise. It’s not some wild Instagram workout. It’s strength training. In this episode of The Fit2 Perform Podcast, Bobby and Steffan beat the drum for the basics and explain why the most powerful thing performers can do for stamina, control, coordination, and resilience is also the thing most people overlook. The truth is, you don’t need complicated programming or endless novelty. You need consistent work on the fundamentals. 💡 What We Cover 🏋️ Why the basics work best Squats, deadlifts, presses, rows. These foundational lifts train multiple muscle groups, improve coordination, and build full-body strength that carries directly onto the stage. 🔁 Consistency beats novelty Performers often jump from workout to workout looking for something new. But repeating the same exercises for several weeks allows you to build skill, strength, and real progress. ⚡ Strength raises your performance ceiling Stronger muscles improve endurance, movement efficiency, control, and power. Strength training doesn’t compete with performance, it enhances it. 🧠 Master movements like skills Instead of constantly chasing new exercises, spend time mastering the fundamentals. Practise them, refine them, and track your progress. ⏱️ Short workouts can still work Even 20 minute sessions done consistently can deliver excellent results when they focus on compound lifts and progressive overload. ✅ Key Takeaways • Focus on the foundational lifts: squat, deadlift, press, row. • Repeat workouts for several weeks instead of constantly changing exercises. • Strength training improves endurance, coordination, and power. • Consistency matters more than complexity. • Even short sessions can produce big results when done regularly. Because the biggest performance enhancer isn’t something new. It’s doing the boring basics incredibly well. 👉 Tune in now to The Most Underrated Performance Enhancer on The Fit2 Perform Podcast. Got a question you want answered on the show? Email us at talk@fit-2.co.uk or message us on Instagram @fit2performwestend.

    26 min
  5. 291. Tom Ping

    2 MAR

    291. Tom Ping

    In this episode of The Fit2 Perform Podcast, we’re joined by Tom Ping, a theatrical agent at Global Artists who represents an extraordinary roster of leading actors and creatives. Between them, his clients hold multiple Olivier Awards, Tony nominations and even a CBE. Before moving into agenting, Tom spent a decade as a professional performer. Trained in opera and violin at the Royal Birmingham Conservatoire, he performed with Opera North and English National Opera, and appeared in West End and touring productions including My Fair Lady, Zorro, Sweet Charity and Judy. Music was even written specifically for his voice by Andrew Lloyd Webber and composer Gareth Valentine. Alongside performing, Tom taught at leading drama schools and qualified as a personal trainer before making the transition into artist management. Now co-managing an award winning client list with Euan Livingstone at Global Artists, he brings sharp industry knowledge and genuine empathy for the performer’s journey. In this conversation, we explore: 🎭 The move from performer to agent 📈 What agents are really looking for 💼 How to build a sustainable, long term career 🧠 The mindset shifts needed to thrive in today’s industry 🎶 What performing taught him about managing talent If you’ve ever wondered how representation really works, or how to stand out in a competitive market, this one is essential listening. 🎧 Subscribe to The Fit2 Perform Podcast for weekly conversations with leading voices in performance, health and the arts. 📩 Questions or guest suggestions? Email talk@fit-2.co.uk

    1hr 10min
  6. 290. Why Looking Fit Doesn’t Mean You’re Performance-Ready

    23 FEB

    290. Why Looking Fit Doesn’t Mean You’re Performance-Ready

    “You can look incredible and still gas out by act two.” In this episode of The Fit2 Perform Podcast, Bobby and Steffan tackle a hard truth in the performing arts world: aesthetics and performance are not the same thing. You can have visible abs, sharp lines, and still feel flat, underpowered, and exhausted halfway through a show. Because looking fit and being performance-ready are two completely different physiological states. This episode is about closing that gap. 🪞 Aesthetics vs Performance Why chasing leanness doesn’t automatically translate to stamina, power, or durability. ⚡ Low Energy Availability Under-fuelling reduces output, slows recovery, impacts hormones, and increases injury risk. You might look “stage lean” but be internally depleted. 🎭 The Performer Trap Why performers often prioritise appearance over function, especially in audition season or contract periods. 🔥 What Real Performance Requires Fuel, strength, recovery capacity, and resilience. Not just a certain body fat percentage. • Judge success by stamina and output, not mirrors. • Fuel for performance, not just aesthetics. • Periodise aesthetic goals around performance demands. • Strong, well-fed performers perform better and last longer. Because the goal is not just to look the part. It’s to deliver the part, night after night. 👉 Tune in now to Why Looking Fit Doesn’t Mean You’re Performance-Ready on The Fit2 Perform Podcast. If you’ve ever felt “lean but flat,” this one’s for you. 💡 What We Cover✅ Key Takeaways

    23 min
  7. 289. Why Cardio Might Be Making You a Worse Performer

    16 FEB

    289. Why Cardio Might Be Making You a Worse Performer

    If you’re constantly exhausted, flat on stage, or struggling to recover, the problem might not be that you’re doing too little cardio. It might be that you’re doing it wrong. In this episode of The Fit2 Perform Podcast, Bobby and Steffan unpack one of the biggest myths in performer training: that more cardio automatically equals better stamina. For many performers, excessive conditioning is quietly draining strength, blunting power, and slowing recovery. This is not anti-cardio. It’s pro-smart cardio. 🏃 Too much steady-state cardio Excessive long-duration cardio can reduce strength gains, limit power output, and increase fatigue if not programmed carefully. ⚖️ The interference effect Endurance work and strength training compete for adaptations. If not structured well, endurance can blunt strength and power development. 🎭 The double-dip problem Performers already get huge conditioning loads through rehearsals, choreography, and shows. Adding more on top can tip the balance into overtraining. 🔋 Conditioning should support performance Cardio should enhance recovery and stamina, not leave you feeling flat or depleted on stage. • Match your cardio type to your performance demands. • Prioritise strength first, conditioning second. • Use low-intensity cardio strategically to support recovery. • Reduce cardio volume during heavy show weeks. Because the goal is not to be the fittest person in the gym. It’s to be the most durable, powerful, and consistent performer on stage. 👉 Tune in now to Why Cardio Might Be Making You a Worse Performer on The Fit2 Perform Podcast. Got questions about balancing strength and conditioning? Email us at talk@fit-2.co.uk and we’ll break it down. 💡 What We Cover✅ Key Takeaways

    19 min
  8. 288. Does The Gym Make You a Better Performer?

    9 FEB

    288. Does The Gym Make You a Better Performer?

    Most performers still think resistance training is just for “getting bulky”. But the science is clear. Strength work doesn’t just change how you look, it can dramatically improve stamina, jump height, vocal power, injury resilience, and even cognitive performance. So yes, the gym can make you a better performer, just not always in the ways you expect. In this episode of The Fit2 Perform Podcast, Bobby and Steffan break down exactly how resistance training transfers to performance on stage, backed by research and real-world performer experience. 🏋️ Strength improves movement efficiency and stamina Stronger muscles require less effort to produce the same movement, improving endurance without adding size. Research shows strength training improved running economy by around 5 percent with no increase in body mass (Storen et al., 2008). 💥 Jump height, sprint speed, and explosive performance Explosive strength benefits dancers, musical theatre performers, and stunt performers. Meta-analyses show resistance training and plyometrics can improve jump height by 8 to 15 percent (Markovic & Mikulic, 2010). 🛡️ Injury reduction beats stretching alone A large review found strength training reduced overuse injuries by up to 50 percent, outperforming stretching, balance training, and aerobic work (Lauersen et al., 2014). 🔁 Endurance improves through muscle fibre efficiency Strength training improves how Type I fibres are used and delays fatigue in Type II fibres, meaning repeated choreography feels easier. 🎤 Posture, breath support, and vocal endurance Stronger deep core and postural muscles support breath control and reduce vocal strain across long show runs. 🧠 Cognitive function and motor learning Resistance training improves executive function, coordination, and learning speed, crucial for picking up choreography quickly (Chang et al., 2012). 🚫 The myth that lifting makes you bulky Hypertrophy requires a calorie surplus, high volume, and specific programming. Most performers gain strength with minimal size increases when nutrition is managed. ⏱️ Time efficient training still works Even 15 to 20 minute sessions, two to three times per week, can produce meaningful neuromuscular benefits (ACSM Guidelines). • Include 1 to 3 resistance sessions per week, full body, 15 to 60 minutes • Prioritise compound lifts to improve strength, stamina, and movement efficiency • Use lower volume and moderate loads during heavy show periods • Add explosive work like jumps, swings, or throws to support choreography and lifts • Track strength metrics alongside performance markers like stamina and jump height • Stronger performers last longer, with better control, resilience, and consistency 👉 Tune in now to Does the Gym Make You a Better Performer? on The Fit2 Perform Podcast. If you’ve ever avoided the gym because you thought it would hurt your performance, this episode might completely change how you train. 💡 What We Cover✅ Key Takeaways

    27 min
5
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21 Ratings

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Join us for candid conversations with top-performing arts industry guests, no-nonsense fitness & wellness tips, and expert advice tailored to the unique demands of performers. Whether it’s Guest Episodes featuring inspiring stories, Talk Episodes diving into relatable challenges, or Expert Episodes packed with actionable insights, there’s something here for everyone striving to thrive on and off the stage. 15+ years of experience as personal trainers and West End performers, your hosts Steffan Lloyd-Evans and Bobby bring a uniquely entertaining and practical perspectiv to health and fitness.

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