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Interviews with Flinn Scholars about their careers and lives.

  1. 26 MAR

    Sara Castro on Her Journey Through the International Defense Community | Alumni Hour Interview

    In this Alumni Hour conversation, Sara Zervos Knutson (’87) speaks with Sara Castro, Ph.D. (’95), about her path from Flinn Scholar at Arizona State University to a career at the intersection of intelligence, academia, and national security.Sara began her journey with early ambitions in journalism before a pivotal decision to study Chinese reshaped her career toward international relations and intelligence analysis. She went on to serve as a CIA analyst, supporting policymakers through rigorous evaluation of evidence, before pursuing a PhD to examine deeper questions about Chinese ideology and U.S.–China relations. Today, she teaches military officers, helping future leaders understand China on its own terms within an increasingly interdependent global system.In this interview, Sara discusses how language study shaped her career path, what intelligence analysis actually entails behind the scenes, and why teaching strategic thinking requires resisting assumptions and bias.Interview Highlights: 0:00 — Early career aspirations and education 2:37 — Learning Chinese and changing career direction 5:43 — Experiencing the legacy of early PRC systems in China 15:06 — Becoming a CIA analyst and dispelling common myths 25:25 — Evaluation and promotion at the CIA 27:48 — Analyst briefing and preparation techniques 31:52 — Leaving the CIA for academic research 33:57 — Insights from the Dixie Mission and U.S.–China relations 41:10 — Teaching China to military officers 44:34 — Xi Jinping, ideology, and grand strategy 48:00 — Global interdependence and global enemies 50:52 — Shared human values across cultures 52:13 — Choosing discomfort as a path to growth

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Interviews with Flinn Scholars about their careers and lives.