CVC Unplugged

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The CVC Unplugged podcast is a weekly show that brings you fascinating and wide-ranging conversations with leading corporate venture capital investors, subject matter experts, startup founders, journalists and other market participants to keep you informed of the most important trends affecting early-stage investing.

  1. 03/07/2025

    Secondaries are breaking into the mainstream

    The whole point of investing is to hopefully get your money back at some point. But what if, as we’ve seen, the usual routes to doing that are effectively blocked off? Ideally, a VC might want to their startup to go public, welcoming in hundreds of thousands of new investors via an IPO and make their money back, at many multiples, that way. Or they might want a bigger fish to come along and acquire the startup outright at a higher value, providing their returns that way.  But IPO’s have been all but dead for a few years now, and despite previous predicitons that this might finally be the year they come back in earnest, that has not been the case. But people still want their money back, so they’re turning to the secondaries markets, where they can sell their shares in startups outside the context of a larger liquidity event that is out of their control. Secondaries markets have grown rapidly and continue to do so. Their visibility, and the attitudes towards using them, have also changed such that investors are much more comfortable imbedding them as part of their portfolio management strategies. My guest today is Laurence Levi, partner at VO2 partners, a boutique advisory firm that acts as a broker-dealer for secondaries transactions, as well as a turnkey portfolio management service provider, focusing strongly on corporate VCs. We talk about how the use of secondaries markets have been on an explosive trajectory, and hav been largely destigmatised, whereas it used to be something many might have considered as an outlet for which things are going badly. We touch on how the nature of the markets themselves have changed, whether the power balance between buyers and sellers have shifted amid the increase in activity, and where the trajectory is set to go even if other exit routes come back. We also talk about how startup founders may be feeling about having new shareholders who they never previously envisioned as a result of them buying up shares on the secondaries, how valuations or discounting practices have changed in recent years, and much more. But first, I talk to GCV’s Kim Moore about how CVCs are opting to sell off parts of their portfolio’s via secondary transactions in order to pivot to AI. The post Secondaries are breaking into the mainstream appeared first on CVC Unplugged.

    38 min
  2. 22/05/2025

    Getting rid of bias in the investment process

    Human decision-making – even when a lot of money is at stake, is not always rational. A lot of the time it’s based on intangible factors that influence people in ways that can’t be explained or justified by data or analysis – this is after all, the entire basis for the field of behavioural economics, and it’s not new information. So why, in an industry like venture capital, are people still led oftentimes more by their gut than their head? The answer, of course, is human nature. But in an industry that looks for outliers, that tries to go against the grain, why is it not more of a priority to minimise the amount of returns left on the table by counteracting well-known flaws in our thinking? My guest today is Sharon Vosmek, CEO and managing partner of VC firm Astia, which has, at the core of its thesis, diversity. Not just diversity for its own sake, though Vosmek argues that that would be good enough – but rather as a tangible, strategic way to cast the net as widely as possible, and to eliminate the biases that ultimately end up hurting your return profile. Astia recently released a white paper on what it calls the Sift – its method of sourcing and screening companies for investment, in a way that tries to filter out the pitfalls that people fall into because of their biases or hunches. Things like not starting the process with introductions, but rather an in-depth assessment of the business before face-to-face meetings, or drawing on the experience of a large diverse group of external advisors to assess each company – thereby also spreading the biases across a wider set of experiences. At a time when diversity and inclusion initiatives are coming under attack, Vosmek defends this not as some gimmick, but as a way to demonstrably bring in more money – indeed, Astia’s data has shown a far lower failure rate for startups that have made it through the Sift, than the average, and a higher rate not just of survival, but of successful exits, than failures. We also talk about the biases that still exist and how they may manifest themselves, the potential impact that the perception of being an “inclusive” fund may have on fundraising, and the wider impact of a current climate that is hostile to inclusion initiatives. But first, I speak to GCV’s Kim Moore about how investors can take advantage of innovation in universities. The post Getting rid of bias in the investment process appeared first on CVC Unplugged.

    55 min
  3. 01/05/2025

    Dealing with an unprecedented demand for power

    Demand on the power grid is not getting any lower, in fact it’s growing faster than ever, and putting real pressure on the existing infrastructure. As more energy-hungry customers like data centres are coming online, better solutions need to be found to get more capacity through the system. My guest today is Pradeep Tagare, head of investment at National Grid Partners, the US-based VC arm of National Grid, which is a grid operator active in the UK and the US. We talk about the challenges facing grid operators at a time when the growth in demand for power is unprecedented, not least because of the phenomenal growth in data centres in the age of AI. We touch on how people are thinking about providing to these large demand customers like data centres, and what solutions exist to increase grid capacity even without a wholescale upgrade of the grid infrastructure itself. We also talk about the progress being made in the area of distributed energy resources, and how the challenge of interoperability of those diverse energy sources is largely solved, and how AI can be used from anything from finding out where best to place data centres, to figuring out how to best reduce the problem of vegetation overgrowth which can bring networks down, and more. But first, I speak to Kim Moore about the growth of the space startup ecosystem in Europe. The post Dealing with an unprecedented demand for power appeared first on CVC Unplugged.

    52 min
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The CVC Unplugged podcast is a weekly show that brings you fascinating and wide-ranging conversations with leading corporate venture capital investors, subject matter experts, startup founders, journalists and other market participants to keep you informed of the most important trends affecting early-stage investing.