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A strong pillar in our Great Work--the loose cannons are going rogue in the Dim Age! A new feed to address some of the deeper and more controversial issues in our society: Censorship, Crimes Against Humanity, Alternative Health, Suppressed Science, Vaccine Hesitancy, Medical Martial Law, Authoritarian Creep, and don't forget the Fascists (real fascists, not people you don't like on Facebook). Your triggers have been warned. Buckle up
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Outlawed Round Up 5.1.24 NarcoPolitics and Are You a Potential Tear ist?
We spend some time today on the addiction / safe drug supply issue going on in BC and Alberta, and the history of OD calls and deaths. Changes seem to be happening finally. What is the right thing to do? Are you a Potential Tear ist... ?
All industries seems to be on decline and need competent people. We go over some examples from X on the machine shops, and we chat about simple combustion cars, the hybrid diesel electric trucks getting made in BC, Pierre P getting kicked out of the house for silly partisan reasons, and the Red Deer public suicide that was not talked about.
The Canadian Border Agency talking about using facial recognition, the NHS changing policy on Trans Women, the Quebec QR code Archipelago, Calgary blanket rezoning pushback, Merritt water restriction, Rats in Alberta, Property tax on tenants.
Then we go deeper and get into the UK study on Midazolam and excess deaths, the study on Drugs killing over 800k Americans, turbo cancer in the young, Sasha Latypova's response to Reuters, and the saline-like effect described by the Ethical Skeptic.
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Links to stuff we chatted about:
https://x.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1784630596095954985
https://x.com/McgonigleVicky/status/1784779658040676353
https://twitter.com/TuckerGoodrich/status/1785649451702337543
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=832740&post_id=143997067&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDM5OTcwNjcsImlhdCI6MTcxNDA2MjI5MiwiZXhwIjoxNzE2NjU0MjkyLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItODMyNzQwIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.QVX7VjrtKFhv88LzQ36GzadL1ApHi89HYl5Pj5VJbEM
https://youtu.be/98fOnbjdMow?si=zp1qSdMKL9ITHeN_
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=579356&post_id=143848952&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDM4NDg5NTIsImlhdCI6MTcxNDQ4MjQ4NSwiZXhwIjoxNzE3MDc0NDg1LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNTc5MzU2Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.PfZ5PjGzyA6oDfkGqx_58P5CEuT0VRnS71zkeIz9Bxg
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=579356&post_id=144065397&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDQwNjUzOTcsImlhdCI6MTcxNDQzOTA1NiwiZXhwIjoxNzE3MDMxMDU2LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNTc5MzU2Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.ZI1dCSMCGJw4mcC7krl4Dibmeb9Wr2PZLUy4mHutIpE
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=806546&post_id=144129742&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDQxMjk3NDIsImlhdCI6MTcxNDQxNzI4NCwiZXhwIjoxNzE3MDA5Mjg0LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItODA2NTQ2Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.kJVdWMkEkhea6BoJeXuKd7d9FrdPQWVBJH5dz5M1MP0
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=870364&post_id=144137108&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDQxMzcxMDgsImlhdCI6MTcxNDQxNDk5NSwiZXhwIjoxNzE3MDA2OTk1LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItODcwMzY0Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.AH_Ks1QKC2An84f_yAZK50zzSWLpCWGYhe4luyuCBPs
Darrens Links:
https://www.edisonmotors.ca/edison-pickup-kit
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GT4i6sXofSs
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13364503/Gender-critical-feminists-praise-historic-NHS-decision-declare-sex-biological-fact-banning-trans-women-female-wards-allowing-female-patients-ask-sex-doctors.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhkXy3lR1DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfcBNL3Zwm -
Outlawed Round Up 4.27 - Canadian CBDC Report - Digital Dollar and Survey of Angry Canadians
We start with Scott Moe of Saskatchewan refusing to answer the question or apologize regarding the treatment of the Unjab'd. Jagmeet hinting at an early election in the Council meeting. Is he vying for PM?
There is survey of how angry and untrustworthy Canadian's are right now of the Government, and there are some surprises on Atlantic Canada and Quebec's responses.
Then we go deep into CBDC's, the reports from the Bank Of Canada, WEF, Horizons Canada, McKinsey and Co, the misleading posts on the internet
What is the difference between these and the way it is today in Canada at least? Did this ship sail under the bridge 15 years ago and we missed our chance to stop it then? Is it too late?
Even the Digital id that is required. Is that not already here? And then the good news. The massive 80k-100k survey of diverse Canadians about this. And no one wants it and no one trusts the government or the Bank of Canada.
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See links to the stuff we chatted about:
https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/innovation-better-canada/en/canadas-digital-charter-trust-digital-world
https://horizons.service.canada.ca/en/2020/02/11/exploring-biodigital-convergence/
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/digitaldollar/
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/07/carbon-backed-cryptocurrency-tackling-climate-change/
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#217 - Outlawed Round Up 4.24 - Climate Gays - Diagnosed with 'Climate Change'
We go over the capital gains changes in detail, including a 'specialized' google search to find this topic from 2017 only, how the Canadian doctors will be effected, a Canadian doctor that diagnosed his patient with climate change - is back in the news, the impact of climate change on LGBT, what words you are not supposed to use anymore at Waterloo Uni, and which ones are ok - for now...
Housing examples in Canada and government funded mainstream shills still pushing you know what...
Then we go deep into vaccine research, UK excess death numbers in young people, an example of a boy who died only hours after, a study in Japan on cancer after 3rd jab, the vaccine injury support program in canada and the line items in the budget for this in 2025/2026. Kirchs's survey study on jabs and sexual orientation, and the multiple reasons that jabs cause autism.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NQr2olTvGE
See links to stuff we chatted about during the ep:
https://uwaterloo.ca/university-relations/resources/inclusive-communications-guide/language-and-written-style/race-and-ethnicity/race-and-ethnicity-terminology
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/new-survey-confirms-that-vaccines?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=1011104&post_id=143870239&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDM4NzAyMzksImlhdCI6MTcxMzgyMzEyMywiZXhwIjoxNzE2NDE1MTIzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMTAxMTEwNCIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.gzSu1pGMZRr-B1VuMJqClrh482Xwh-n65NRtaL9BasE
https://needtoknow.news/2024/04/japanese-research-finds-significant-increases-in-cancer-deaths-linked-to-3rd-covid-shot/
https://rumble.com/v4qyngt-quadruple-vaccinated-youth-are-318-more-likely-to-die-than-unvaxxed-peersis.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PressForTruth
https://x.com/KLVeritas/status/1783069139101225332
https://x.com/RealChadEros/status/1782180977776677278
https://x.com/KathyRoman/status/1781488644382978100
https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1780955728301174849
https://x.com/MarkMcGrathCFP/status/1780627905824878980
https://x.com/NewGenPPC/status/1782851416249299169
Links to the stuff Darren talked about:
https://globalnews.ca/news/10443557/capital-gains-tax-budget-2024-cma/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/doctors-ask-liberal-government-to-reconsider-capital-gains-tax-change-1.6857958
https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/september-2017/liberal-tax-reform-fairness-and-doctors/
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/climate-change-risk-lgbt/
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24463984/cdc-moving-foia.pdf
https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/ottawa-adds-36-million-to-vaccine-injury-fund-5636512
https://makismd.substack.com/p/childhood-vaccines-6-month-old-liam?r=2at6hc
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Jim Lee - Climate Change - Geoengineering - Cloud Brightening
Jim Lee joins us for a common sense chat on everything weather modification, the distraction of contrails vs chemtrails, real Geoengineering, and Marine Cloud Brightening.
We get into the UAE, Cloud seeding for suppression and increase, the governments that have addressed this - State and National, ship tracks, inadvertent and intentional geoengineering, increased albido, the cancellation of SCOPEX, the Great Barrier Reef project, stealth start ups, the challenge now with the public outcry, Project Sky Water, cloud ionization, and seeing through the IPCC and WEF narratives.
In the long extended second part we get deeper into the ship tracks and the change from bunker fuel to Frankenstein fuel, the increase in flights over the last couple of decades, the changes in altitude of the stratosphere, how far off they were when analyzing the heat trap from contrails, Galactic cosmic rays, the change in the rain band, cloud formation, the Appleman chart, Ice Super Saturated Regions, Hunga Tonga, clear sky daylight brightening, soot and graphine, and the climate cloud conundrum.
Is there a real sustainable fuel and what does that even mean? What are the important factors in Climate Change / Global Warming.... Sun, Galactic Cosmic Rays, Cloud Formation, Water Vapour, then Greenhouse Gases. What about water vapour and dehydration of the atmosphere. And what about legalized global deployment of Geoengineering.
https://connect.climateviewer.com/
https://climateviewer.com/
https://climateviewer.substack.com/
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Outlawed Round Up 4.17.24 Canada's Debt Bomb, Cringe Gov Voting Device Ceremony
We go deep into some Canadian numbers, the costs per household of various things like Foreign Aid, Debt payments, Healthcare, payouts from Government organizations for people that were forced out of work by mandates for the Covid Jab, data and stats on the budget, a video by Pierre including Canadian history of economic factors, suicides, and tax money.
We chat about the 2023 MAID numbers, more price per household, the Fraser Institute reports on deficit and debt, the new budget, uses of borrowings, building houses, the housing problem, the gov unlocking housing, and the Coutts 3 update.
In the second part we get into trans puberty blockers, the Cass report, the CBC gaslighting, the pushback across the globe now on these procedures on young kids, Ontario paying for a new vagina and allowing the phallus to be kept - this must be a leading edge procedure (pardon the pun).
Turbo cancer, excess deaths, myocarditis, studies, Japan and the vaccines, Blood product warnings from genetic vaccines, Ed Dowd's cancer analysis, Ethical Skeptic's weekly update, digital id for Jabs in the EU, VAERS and the CDC admitting almost 800,000 adverse reactions.
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See links to stuff we chatted about:
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/04/13/if-you-thought-assisted-suicide-would-guarantee-a-quick-painless-death-data-from-oregon-will-make-you-think-again/
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=1749153&post_id=143662405&utm_source=cross-post&utm_campaign=516896&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDM2NjI0MDUsImlhdCI6MTcxMzMzNTA3NiwiZXhwIjoxNzE1OTI3MDc2LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMTc0OTE1MyIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.SRmw2h0XG5MsC1csVvnMXeQKqkq0n5NO-vAafANKOqA
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=586698&post_id=143661659&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDM2NjE2NTksImlhdCI6MTcxMzMyNjcyNSwiZXhwIjoxNzE1OTE4NzI1LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNTg2Njk4Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.8-knOL91zCNaYdeQvZrl4Sut2Su27Fg852NL4v-WFHc
https://twitter.com/justdad7/status/1779887936894276038
https://twitter.com/MDVetDoc
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=975571&post_id=143252285&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTc5MjA2LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNDMyNTIyODUsImlhdCI6MTcxMjI0MzM3NywiZXhwIjoxNzE0ODM1Mzc3LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItOTc1NTcxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.fMIRvPNxQ_aB42z-hsdl7hTwUadx0J3bWVMPTg7Isis
https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/mrna-jabs-caused-25-of-saudis-to-suffer-heart-problems-new-study-finds/
https://vigilantfox.news/p/ed-dowd-identifies-disturbing-problem?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=975571&post_id=143252285&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=24pqe&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
https://needtoknow.news/2024/04/cdc-discloses-780000-new-reports-of-serious-side-effects-after-covid-19-vaccination/
Links to Darren's topics:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/feds-have-paid-nearly-580k-in-employee-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-settlements-5630685?src_src=BN_article_paid&src_cmp=breaking-2024-04-17-ca&est=BOlNXLvcBETeXInL4HYhDKQ4bXT9Kno9NM28bEvGlMPO32qPB9ZCVDMJaa0UKPUM
https://www.teamsters31.ca/news_bulletins/Purolator-Facebook-Historic-Decision-Covid-19-Policy-December.pdf
https://budget.canada.ca/2024/home-accueil-en.html
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/federal-and-provincial-debt-interest-costs-for-canadians-2024.pdf
https://betterdwelling.com/canadian-business-insol -
Sean Tario - Digital Privacy Boot Camp, The Ghost Phone
Sean Tario joins us for a great chat about digital sovereignty, censorship, and his Digital Privacy Boot Camp. Join us for some inside baseball on tech and digital media solutions for everyone, but also for podcasters and creators.
We chat about the pixel / graphene os phone solution, getting kicked off of Linkedin, being a tech consultant, some of the latest grifts he has uncovered, Elon's satellites, the 5 big tech behemoths that generate trillions on our backs, looking at candidates, causes and organizations, sandboxed environments, user experiences, how the open source has changed lately, proton mail scandal and the suggestion for safe server space.
In the second half we chat about the increase in binary and the fight to the death, predictions, Creature from Jekyll Island, decentralization - open source and building networks, riot examples, provincial elections, net zero, Trump and Trudeau, Monarchy and Republics, ethics and values, American Patriots, 2nd Amendment, and choosing a place of maximum freedom potential in the USA.
https://truthinlove.substack.com/p/sean-patrick-tario-professional-bio
https://mark37.com//
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