This new podcast series, hosted by Alby and Clemmie, aims to break the silence around grief between friends, one curious question at a time.
These two friends, drawn together through a shared experience of losing a parent when young, are joined by experts in their field who share their own personal stories of loss. Together, they hope to open the conversation about grief, and get friends asking about the octopus.
Does your friend have an octopus, and you don’t know what to say? Ask a curious question, like "how is today?"🐙
Zak Williams & Alby Shale
In this episode, Alby speaks to the amicable, compassionate, entrepreneurial and zealous Zak Williams - investor, mental health advocate, entrepreneur and the son of our childhood hero, Robin Williams.
"I appreciate How Is Today. I think it really helps set better context and helps open up the present. Where one stands and how they feel. Where their place is in this world at this moment in time. It's important."
This episode concludes the six part inaugural series of "How Is Today?", the first podcast about grief made for people who haven't been through it. Breaking the silence around grief between friends, one curious question at a time. And with the help of an octopus...
Please join us on Instagram where we'll be keeping the conversation going. And releasing news of Season Two in the new year.
We hope you enjoyed it, learnt from it and keep paying it forward.
Dr Leyla Hussein OBE & Alby Shale
In this episode Alby speaks to the brilliant Leyla Hussein - a social activist and psychotherapist who is a founder and executive at numerous non-profit organisations, has a doctorate, an OBE and (finally) 12 fatwas to her name...
With such rich personal and professional history, Dr Leyla OBE speaks through various different lenses in this episode. From her experience losing her father in her 20s (and not being allowed as a woman to attend the burial - the "kind of b******t" she's fighting), to how she looks at the 12 fatwas against her, to how she approaches self-care for her grief and includes friends in those moments.
This is a fascinating discussion, we hope you enjoy it 🙏
Benj Pasek & Alby Shale
In this episode Alby speaks to Oscar, Grammy, Tony, and Golden Globe Award-winning songwriter Benj Pasek, best known for his work on La La Land and Dear Evan Hansen, the play that inspired this conversation. In this conversation, Benj explores how our modern society, characterised by a lack of community and connection, pushes people to alternative ways of connection through the prism of grief. And explains how, when people are moving through real pain, whether in moments of depression or grief, we should resist from jumping into action and fixing: "instead of throwing a rope down a well to lift someone out, it's better to climb down and just sit with them". We hope you enjoy it.
Sir Andrew Strauss OBE & Clemmie Clough
In this episode Clemmie speaks to the English Cricket legend Andrew Strauss about his experience with loss and grief, after losing his wife Ruth Strauss in 2018. He introduces a concept of 'doing death well' which was incredibly important for Ruth before she died. And so they wonder - what would "doing grief well" look like?
Andrew says: "it baffles me that it’s not more of an open conversation, that there’s not more social norms about what grieving is."
We couldn't agree more. It's more conversations like this, with national heroes and your next-door neighbour that will crack this subject open so we can create a healthy, open culture about something we will all go through.
Nathalie & Clemmie Clough
In this episode of How Is Today, Clemmie asks her sister Nathalie some curious questions to break the silence around the grief of their mum Melanie who was killed in Thailand in the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami. Nathalie, Clemmie and a few others survived, but six friends including their mum did not.
For the first time in over 10 years, they will be opening the conversation about grief to show how possible a conversation around grief can be. Even when it seems too difficult. Even when it seems like too much time has passed. Even when it’s emotional.
What this episode also seeks to explain is that when you lose a parent, you lose one of your biggest cheerleaders in life. You lose your support system. Of course, there is the other parent left who, though they're doing an incredible job, is doing it without their partner. Without their left arm.
What we want to leave people with is this: in grief, you need your team. Bigger than that, you need an army.
This podcast is for the people this hasn’t happened to. We’re talking directly to you, the army. We need really, really healthy culture about grief. And we need you to get trained, to get us through. We'll be there for you.
Thank you for listening. This one is a big one.🐙
INTRO - Alby Shale & Clemmie Clough
In the first episode of How Is Today, Alby and Clemmie replay the story of how they met - two strangers connected in a moment of serendipity. It was an evening that changed their lives, and set them on a two-year mission to reimagine grief. And understand the role a community can play in that difficult journey.
Hosted by Clemmie, with Alby in the guest-seat, they explore what it's like to lose a parent when young, and how they dealt with what happened next. And show how friends who ‘see your octopus’ can help.
In this episode, learn how to help a friend who's grieving by asking "how is today?"
Because when we ask, we notice that today is different to yesterday. We see that when our friend is going through grief, every day is hard. Yesterday, might have been fine. And tomorrow? It's might be too big to think of.
When you lose someone you love, your world tips upside-down and shakes all the good stuff out. As a friend, you help bring it back together.
Remember, don't worry if you don't know what to say.
Just ask a curious question, like: "how is today?" 🐙
Wonderful chat with Clemmie and Andrew, honest and thought provoking!
It’s helping my grief thank you x
Clemmie and Nat - bravo girls- such a refreshingly honest and extraordinarily open conversation. You are two brave girls and your Mum would be so proud of what you have both achieved / onward and upwards girls. Hope the wedding is the happiest of days.
Warm and empathetic
A sweet, moving conversation about grief and how to talk to people experiencing it. Abby and Clem speak with such empathy and warmth, and I will definitely be asking my friends, “how is today?”