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Riding Unicorns

Riding Unicorns is a podcast featuring the world's best minds from venture and startups. Hosted by VCs James Pringle and Hector Mason, the show explores what it takes to build and back successful tech unicorns. Each episode features conversations with top founders, operators, and investors unpacking the strategies, challenges, and insights behind scaling category-defining companies. From fundraising and product-market fit to hiring, growth, and beyond, no topic is off-limits. Whether you're a founder, VC, angel investor, or just curious about the world of startups, you’ll find valuable takeaways in every episode.

  1. Laura Modiano, Head of Founder Experience @ OpenAI on Building in the AI Era, and Why Anyone Can Now Create a Company

    2 days ago

    Laura Modiano, Head of Founder Experience @ OpenAI on Building in the AI Era, and Why Anyone Can Now Create a Company

    Laura Modiano leads Founder Experience at OpenAI, a newly created function designed to help startups build, grow, and scale on the world's leading AI platform. Having previously worked with startups at AWS and now at OpenAI, Laura sits at the intersection of founders, technology, and the future of company building. In this episode, Laura shares how AI is fundamentally changing the startup journey, why founders can now build companies faster than ever before, and what OpenAI is doing to support the next generation of builders from day one. We discuss: • Why OpenAI created the Founder Experience team • How startup building is changing in the AI era • What founders need from AI platforms beyond infrastructure • The difference between building a feature and building a company • Why AI-native founders are moving faster than ever before • How OpenAI gathers feedback directly from founders • The rise of non-technical founders building technical products • Why anyone can now learn, build and create with AI tools • How Laura uses Codex to automate workflows and increase productivity • The future relationship between startups and AI platforms • Lessons from AWS, healthcare, startups and OpenAI • What makes great founders stand out in a rapidly changing market Laura also shares her thoughts on the future of AI applications, the opportunities for founders building on top of foundation models, and why curiosity, speed and continuous learning are becoming the most valuable skills in technology. This is a conversation about the future of entrepreneurship, the democratisation of software creation, and what happens when anyone with an idea can build a company.

    27 min
  2. How Cleo Reached $400M ARR: Barney Hussey-Yeo on AI, Growth, and Building a Consumer Fintech Unicorn

    17 Jun

    How Cleo Reached $400M ARR: Barney Hussey-Yeo on AI, Growth, and Building a Consumer Fintech Unicorn

    What does it take to build an AI company a decade before the world realises AI is the future? In this episode of Riding Unicorns, James and Hector sit down with Barney Hussey-Yeo, Founder & CEO of Cleo, the AI financial assistant helping millions of consumers make smarter money decisions. Barney started building Cleo years before ChatGPT brought AI into the mainstream. Today, Cleo has grown into one of the UK's leading fintech success stories, reaching $400M ARR and becoming a category-defining consumer AI company. The conversation explores the realities of scaling from zero revenue to hundreds of millions in ARR, surviving the shift from the ZIRP era to COVID, and building a product-led company that endured long before AI became fashionable. Barney also shares how AI is transforming the way Cleo operates internally, why every executive team member is now shipping code, and how founder behaviour, company culture, and execution speed are changing in the age of AI. Topics Covered: • Building an AI company before the AI boom  • The origins of Cleo and the vision for an AI financial assistant  • Growing from $0 to $400M ARR  • Why the first $100M is the hardest milestone  • Surviving COVID and finding product-market fit  • Building data moats and defensibility in AI  • Why AI has transformed customer acquisition  • How Cleo uses AI internally across engineering and operations  • The rise of AI-native companies and the future of work  • Why some employees thrive with AI and others fall behind  • The best AI tools Barney is using today  • Advice for founders on fundraising, execution, and building great products  • The next generation of AI startups and future unicorn predictions A candid conversation about ambition, execution, AI, and what it really takes to build a generational technology company.

    25 min
  3. The Future of Finance is AI-Native: Jonathan Sanders, CEO of Light, on Organic Software, AI Agents, and Rebuilding Business Finance

    10 Jun

    The Future of Finance is AI-Native: Jonathan Sanders, CEO of Light, on Organic Software, AI Agents, and Rebuilding Business Finance

    What happens when software adapts to humans, rather than humans adapting to software? In this episode of Riding Unicorns, James and Hector sit down with Jonathan Sanders, Founder & CEO of Light, the AI-native finance platform redefining how businesses manage money. Jonathan's journey spans investment banking, consulting, Pleo, founding Juni, and now building Light. Along the way, he has developed a unique perspective on technology, AI, and what the next generation of business software will look like. The conversation explores Jonathan's concept of "organic software" where AI agents learn, adapt, and operate alongside teams, reducing complexity and transforming finance from a reporting function into a strategic intelligence layer. Jonathan shares real-world examples of AI agents managing company spend, monitoring compliance, automating finance workflows, and generating insights that would have been impossible just a few years ago. The discussion also covers founder psychology, building through uncertainty, AI-first organisations, and how leadership teams must evolve in a world where software development, product design, and operations are increasingly powered by AI. Topics Covered: • Jonathan's journey from finance and consulting into startups • Why founding a company is one of the hardest ways to create change • The concept of "organic software" and AI-native business tools • How AI agents learn from company behaviour and improve over time • Building finance software that tells stories instead of generating reports • Real-world examples of autonomous finance workflows • Why AI is changing the role of CFOs and finance teams • How Light uses AI internally across product, engineering, and operations • The rise of AI-first organisations and new ways of working • Founder resilience, stress, and the realities of building companies • Why software development is changing faster than most people realise • The future of business operations in an AI-native world This is a conversation about the next generation of software, the future of work, and what happens when AI becomes a true operating system for businesses.

    29 min
  4. Charlotte Palmer, VP of Venture Capital at Integra Global Advisors on Backing Emerging Managers, Access, and Venture Fundraising

    6 May

    Charlotte Palmer, VP of Venture Capital at Integra Global Advisors on Backing Emerging Managers, Access, and Venture Fundraising

    This week on Riding Unicorns, we’re joined by Charlotte Palmer, Vice President of Venture Capital at Integra Global Advisors. Charlotte sits on the other side of the table as an LP, backing emerging venture funds globally. In this episode, she lifts the lid on how LPs actually evaluate VCs, what really matters beyond headline performance, and why many GPs still get fundraising wrong. We cover: • How LPs really underwrite venture funds and why early DPI is often misunderstood • What matters more than performance in the early years of a fund • Why access and ownership drive returns more than anything else • The reality of backing emerging managers and why smaller funds win • Team dynamics, attribution, and how LPs assess partners under the hood • Why fewer funds are getting backed and what’s changed in the market • The shift in venture towards early-stage and how late-stage AI impacts LP strategy • Portfolio construction from an LP perspective and how diversification actually works • The role of co-investments and why LPs increasingly lean into them • How GPs can create urgency in fundraising and what actually cuts through Charlotte also shares practical advice for GPs, including how to re-engage LPs, how to position a fund without strong DPI, and why most outreach fails to land. A clear, honest view from the LP side on what it takes to get backed and build a fund that lasts.

    30 min
  5. What Makes a Top VC Fund Today? Dave Neumann at Schroders Capital on LP Thinking, DPI and Venture Returns

    22 Apr

    What Makes a Top VC Fund Today? Dave Neumann at Schroders Capital on LP Thinking, DPI and Venture Returns

    What does a genuinely great VC fund look like today, from an LP’s perspective? In this episode, James and Hector are joined by Dave Neumann, Investment Manager at Schroders Capital, one of the most experienced institutional investors in venture. With a career spanning decades and exposure to top-tier global funds, Dave shares how leading LPs actually evaluate venture firms, and where many GPs get it wrong. The conversation covers what separates top quartile funds from the rest, why venture is increasingly about building a firm rather than just making investments, and how the best managers create a long-term flywheel across talent, track record and capital. They also go deep on often overlooked topics including DPI, liquidity, fund size, and portfolio construction. Dave explains why access is everything in venture, why consistency matters more than one-off performance, and how LPs think about returns in a world where companies stay private for longer. A sharp, practical look at venture through the LP lens and what it takes to build a durable, high-performing fund. Topics Covered  What defines a top VC fund today  The LP perspective on venture performance  Why venture is about building a firm, not just investing  Top quartile vs lower quartile returns and the compounding effect  Talent, incentives and the VC flywheel  Portfolio construction myths vs reality  Fund size and where returns are really made  DPI, liquidity and secondaries in Europe  How LPs think about risk, time horizons and outcomes  Why access is the biggest advantage in venture

    28 min
5
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20 Ratings

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Riding Unicorns is a podcast featuring the world's best minds from venture and startups. Hosted by VCs James Pringle and Hector Mason, the show explores what it takes to build and back successful tech unicorns. Each episode features conversations with top founders, operators, and investors unpacking the strategies, challenges, and insights behind scaling category-defining companies. From fundraising and product-market fit to hiring, growth, and beyond, no topic is off-limits. Whether you're a founder, VC, angel investor, or just curious about the world of startups, you’ll find valuable takeaways in every episode.

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