Business Halacha Daily

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Business Halacha Daily is a program with daily 3-5 minute "nuggets" on the topic of the week. They are practical questions that come up related to that topic, with a dayan there to answer and explain the reasoning.

  1. 1 day ago

    If Someone Stores His Boxes in an Unused Warehouse Without Permission, Is He Obligated to Pay Rent?

    Questions? Comments? We love feedback! Email us at info@baishavaad.org   Rav Yosef Greenwald Question: My friend heard that I have some extra space in my warehouse and asked if he could rent the space to store some boxes there. I declined because I wanted the space available in case I needed it. I went away for a few weeks and, when I got back, I saw that he had stored boxes there without my permission. Can I bill him?  Answer: At first glance, this seems a classic case of Zeh Nehene v’Zeh Lo Chaser. The case the Gemara discusses involves a person who moves into his friend’s house without him being aware and without causing any loss to the homeowner. This would be very improbable today because when someone moves into his friend’s house or bungalow, he would inevitably cause the owner some expense through his usage of electricity and water. In the case in question, however, the friend is merely putting his boxes down in a warehouse. If he doesn’t turn on the lights or water, he isn’t causing any loss to the owner at all.  However, the Shulchan Aruch rules that if a potential customer makes it clear that he would have been willing to pay the owner for the usage, he can be charged for his usage even if no agreement was ever reached. In this case, since the friend clearly indicated that he would have been willing to pay rent for the warehouse space, putting his boxes down is considered a consummation of that proposal, and he would have to pay if he did end up using the space.

    3 min
  2. 3 days ago

    May a Homeowner Ban People from Taking a Shortcut Through His Property?

    Questions? Comments? We love feedback! Email us at info@baishavaad.org  Rav Yosef Greenwald Question: Is it permitted to take a shortcut through someone else’s property without permission? Can a homeowner block people from walking through his property, or would this fall under the category of “middas Sodom” because the homeowner isn’t losing anything by having people walk through his yard? Answer: Tosafos understands that the reason one can’t charge someone who used his property in a case of zeh nehen v’zeh lo chaseir is because of the rule of “ain kofin al middas Sodom”, which basically means: What do you care if someone else derived a benefit as long as you aren’t losing anything? The question is whether middas Sodom just means that you can’t charge someone retroactively for enjoyment he had from your property, or if it also means that you can’t prevent someone from using your property in the future. Tosafos says that the rule of middas Sodom does not mean that people do not have full property rights. Homeowners cannot be forced to let people trespass on their property. Although they can’t charge them for having done so, they also don’t have to allow them to do it in the first place. Moreover, it could be argued that in most cases allowing people to walk through someone’s yard is a case a chaseir, as a loss of privacy is also a loss. Although the Rishonim do say that there is also a moral imperative not to be like the people of Sodom if there really isn’t any loss, still, one cannot be forced to allow people to walk through their property.

    4 min
  3. 4 days ago

    Does Somebody Have to Pay for Regularly Sitting in Someone Else’s Seat in Shul?

    Questions? Comments? We love feedback! Email us at info@baishavaad.org  Rav Yosef Greenwald Question: Reuven pays for two seats in his shul. He uses one for himself and the other one is meant for his son. However, his son prefers to daven elsewhere and rarely sits in his seat. Shimon notices the empty seat and begins to sit there every week. Eventually, Reuven tells him that since he is using the seat, he should pay for it. Is Reuven correct?  Answer: This would seem like a case of zeh neheneh v’zeh lo chaseir. Since Shimon is not causing Reuven a loss, it would seem that he should be patur. The Gemara says that two conditions must be met in order to make someone pay for a hana’ah that he receives. 1. The owner must be having a loss in the sense that he could rent out the property being used if the other person wasn’t there. In this case, since Reuven cannot sell the other seat, he would not be able to charge for its use. 2. The person having hana’ah can only be obligated to pay for something that would otherwise pay for. In this case, that would mean that Shimon would have to be the type of person who would pay for another seat if this one wasn’t available. Whereas, if he is the type of person who wouldn’t pay for a seat and would just stand in the back if there was no free seat available, the Gemara implies that he could not be obligated to pay.   Going forward, if Reuven continues to pay for the seat and he wants to use it to put down his talis bag or his coat and hat, he may prevent Shimon from sitting there in the future because he needs the seat for himself. Still, because Shimon is not considered a nehene because he wouldn’t pay for a seat in any case, he may not be able to charge him for sitting there. However, practically speaking, although the Gemara implies to say that one can only charge the person having hana’ah if he is the type of person who would pay for such a benefit, the Poskim rule like the opinion of the Rif that this condition does not need to be met and one can charge someone for using something that is theirs and causing them a loss even if the person would not have been willing to pay for such hana’ah.

    4 min
  4. 15 Jun

    If Someone Accidentally Eats Someone Else’s Package of Food, Is He Liable to Pay?

    Questions? Comments? We love feedback! Email us at info@baishavaad.org  Rav Yosef Greenwald, Rav of K’hal Dexter Park Question: A gift package of food is delivered to someone’s office. Assuming it’s for him, the person eats it. Afterwards, he discovers it was meant for the office next door. Does he have to pay for the food he ate? Answer: If it was an honest mistake that was no fault of his own, he is not liable as a mazik or a gazlan. However, he still is not fully exempt from liability. The Gemara discusses a case where someone inherits a barn full of cows from his father. He assumes all of the cows belonged to his father and he slaughters and eats one of them. Unbeknownst to him, that cow belonged to someone else and was only being kept in his father’s barn.    The Gemara says that although the son is not a mazik, he is still liable because he derived enjoyment from someone else’s property. He does not have to pay the full market value of the cow, but he has to pay the value of the pleasure he had. Chazal assessed this to be two-thirds of what the meat would have fetched in the market.  So too, in this case the man who ate his neighbor’s food would be liable to pay that basic amount.  Question: Who does he have to pay that amount to? The man who the package was intended for or the one who sent the package?  Answer: If it was a package that the office next door paid for, he would have to pay them. If they weren’t paying for it, he would have to pay whoever did lay out the money for it.

    4 min

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Business Halacha Daily is a program with daily 3-5 minute "nuggets" on the topic of the week. They are practical questions that come up related to that topic, with a dayan there to answer and explain the reasoning.

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