What if the medicine most likely to change your life is one you've never even heard of? In this episode, we sit down with Patrick and Michelle Fishley, founders of Soul Reflections and longtime practitioners of Iboga, a rare, potent plant medicine from the jungles of Gabon that's quietly reshaping how people in the West understand healing, addiction, and the self. Both Patrick and Michelle started as nurses working inside the traditional healthcare system before an unexpected invitation pulled them into the world of Iboga, first through the isolated compound ibogaine, then into the full, ancient plant itself as taught by elders deep in the Gabonese jungle. What followed was over a decade of study, initiation, and return trips to Africa that transformed not just their careers, but who they are. In this conversation, we go deep into what makes Iboga so different from other plant medicines like ayahuasca or psilocybin: its intensity, its rarity, its 12-to-72-hour journeys, and why it's often called the Mount Everest of plant medicines. We talk about why it works on the mind, body, and spirit all at once, why reverence (not consumerism) is essential to using it safely, and why the elders who protect it are sounding the alarm on its growing commodification. But this episode is about more than one plant. It's about awareness without judgment, the discomfort we've engineered out of modern life, and what it means to remember, rather than fix, who we really are. Whether you're curious about plant medicine or have never considered it in your life, this conversation offers something for you: a deeper look at healing, nature, and the parts of ourselves we've forgotten how to hear. Patrick and Michelle Fishley are co-founders of Soul Reflections, the world's first Iboga/Ibogaine online community supporting practitioners, providers, and seekers alike through preparation, integration, and education. With a combined 45+ years of nursing experience in ICU, ER, trauma, and addictions care, they transitioned into Iboga/Ibogaine work over a decade ago and have since led over 1,500 treatments with a perfect safety record. Both are Bwiti-initiated Nganga (Healer/Seer), Patrick known as Dibadi, Michelle as Yakéta, trained directly by elders in Gabon, where they return annually to deepen their connection to the medicine's traditional roots. Connect with Patrick & Michelle: Website: soulreflections.netInstagram: @soulreflectionsibogaFacebook: Soul Reflections Iboga CommunityYouTube: @soulreflections-iboga
