Humans of AI

Alex Chao

In the race to build AI, we forget that it was made by real people, with real stories. These are their stories. Inspired by the photoblog "Humans of New York", this series is a video podcast showcasing the different people who are either building things in AI or are using it in their daily lives. If you think you would make a good guest or want to sponsor the podcast, send me a note at alex@humansofai.xyz

  1. 1 day ago

    Andrew McLuhan: The Medium Is the Message. So What Is AI Telling Us?

    How is AI reshaping not only what we do, but who we are? In this episode of Humans of AI, we chat with Andrew McLuhan, a poet, writer, researcher, and the founder and director of The McLuhan Institute, where he develops and teaches ways of analyzing the nature of technologies and their personal and social effects. As the grandson of renowned media theorist Marshall McLuhan and the son of Eric McLuhan, Andrew brings a perspective shaped by three generations of thinking about how media and technology transform human life. Andrew explains why artificial intelligence should be understood as more than just another tool. AI is becoming part of the environment around us, reshaping how we think, create, communicate, trust information, and understand ourselves. We unpack Marshall McLuhan’s famous idea that “the medium is the message,” why focusing only on the content produced by AI can distract us from its deeper effects, and what earlier shifts—from oral culture and print to radio, television, and the internet—can teach us about the present moment. We also explore how AI overviews and agents are changing search, discoverability, and the economics of publishing; why the risks of AI extend beyond automation to mental fatigue, weakened judgment, trust erosion, and value misalignment; and how every technology strengthens certain human abilities while allowing others to fade. Andrew offers a practical way to evaluate new technologies against our personal, family, and community values—and asks which parts of ourselves we should be unwilling to outsource. Andrew also shares his unconventional path from punk rock, poetry, and furniture upholstery to carrying forward the work of Marshall and Eric McLuhan. The result is a wide-ranging conversation about media, culture, identity, consciousness, and the question underneath nearly every debate about AI: not only “What can this technology do?” but “What is it doing to us?” Learn more about Andrew and his work: The McLuhan Institute: https://themcluhaninstitute.com/ Andrew McLuhan: https://andrewmcluhan.com/

  2. 27 Aug

    Kasra Gaharian: AI Can Flag Gambling Risk. But Can It Reduce Harm?

    How is AI reshaping the gambling industry? In this episode of Humans of AI, I chat with Kasra Gaharian, the Director of Research at UNLV International Gaming Institute, where he leads interdisciplinary research at the intersection of artificial intelligence, data science, and gambling. Kasra breaks down the state of AI in gaming, the rise of prediction markets, and why the future of betting may depend as much on regulation and consumer protection as it does on model capability. We unpack the distinction between "gaming" and "gambling," why the industry uses softer language, and how trust is built through regulation, fair-play systems, and responsible gambling tools. They also get into the probabilistic mindset behind games of chance, cognitive distortions that make players overestimate skill, and the challenge of helping consumers understand risk before it turns into harm. Read Kasra's research on "The State of AI in Gaming 2026" here: https://www.igiairhub.com/state-of-ai/ If you would like to be a guest or sponsor the podcast, send me a note at alex@humansofai.xyz 🎙️ Connect with the hosts: Alex Chao 📧 Newsletter: https://alexchao.substack.com/subscribe 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchao56/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/alexchaomander 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexchaomander Kasra Gaharian https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasrag/ #humansofai #gambling #gaming #lasvegas #safety #risk #protection #regulation

  3. 18 Aug

    Ben Goertzel - Why Decentralization is the Path to AGI

    In this episode of Humans of AI, I chat with Ben Goertzel, AI researcher, mathematician, and one of the pioneers of artificial general intelligence, having coined the term back in 2005. Ben is the founder and CEO of SingularityNET and he has spent decades exploring intelligence, consciousness, and what it might mean to create machines with increasingly general minds. He is now also the founder of BGI Labs aiming to chart a path toward building Beneficial General Intelligence.Ben says the next breakthrough in AGI may not come from bigger transformers at all. Rather, the real bottleneck is deeper: memory, continual learning, metacognition, and architectures that can actually keep improving without forgetting what they learned yesterday. Ben also argues that AGI shouldn’t be concentrated in the hands of a single company, country, or small group of institutions. The more powerful these systems become, the more important it is that they’re built on open, distributed infrastructure rather than locked inside one corporate walled garden. In his view, decentralization isn’t just about ideology, it’s a practical way to make AGI more resilient, more transparent, and ultimately more beneficial for everyone. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction & Why AGI Must Be Decentralized 01:21 - Defining AGI: Generalization vs. Breadth 06:40 - Sparks of AGI & Limitations of Backpropagation 11:07 - Common Model of Cognition & Cognitive Deficits in LLMs 15:45 - OpenCog Hyperon Architecture: AtomSpace & MeTTa 20:19 - Omega Claw, Symbolic Memory & Recursive Self-Improvement 24:40 - The History of Decentralized AI: Webmind to the Modern Web 30:00 - SingularityNET, ASI Chain & Running AI On-Chain 33:36 - Open Source Substrates vs. Corporate Walled Gardens 38:11 - Ben's Journey: Sci-Fi, The Prometheus Project & Early AI 43:07 - Hardware Evolution & The Cultural Shift in AI Research 46:50 - Realistic AGI Timelines & Architectural Scaffolding 50:47 - How the Community Can Get Involved (BGI Labs, Omega Claw) If you would like to be a guest or sponsor the podcast, send me a note at alex@humansofai.xyz 🎙️ Connect with the hosts: Alex Chao 📧 Newsletter: https://alexchao.substack.com/subscribe 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchao56/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/alexchaomander 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexchaomander Ben Geortzel https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengoertzel/ https://bengoertzel.substack.com/https://github.com/asi-alliance/OmegaClaw-Core #humansofai #agi #singularity #architectures #memory #rsi

  4. 24 Jul

    Elijah Rivera - The Future of Learning: Balancing AI and Human Wisdom

    In this episode of Humans of AI, I chat with Elijah Rivera, an Assistant Professor of Computer Science at Brandeis University, whose research looks at how people learn computer science and how programming languages themselves are designed. Elijah earned his Ph.D. at Brown University, and before that a bachelor’s and master’s at MIT. At Brandeis, he developed and teaches a course on automation in software development that gives students hands-on experience with the modern software toolchain, while also rooting those tools in their respective histories and in the related questions philosophers of technology have continually raised. Overarching this is a broader conviction Elijah keeps pursuing: that computer science is best served by learning to communicate effectively with other disciplines such as cognitive science, philosophy, and theology—and, more importantly, by being willing to listen to their challenges and critiques. Whether you’re a student, an AI engineer, founder, researcher, or simply someone curious about the future of education, I hope you learn as much as I did from my conversation with Elijah. Submit your question Submit your question to the Humans of AI Office Hours, and we may cover it in a future episode:https://forms.gle/iztuQCjLyUe8kXYRA If you would like to be a guest or sponsor the podcast, send me a note at alex@humansofai.xyz. 🎙️ Connect with the hosts Alex Chao📧 Newsletter: https://alexchao.substack.com/subscribe💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchao56/🐦 X: https://x.com/alexchaomander📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexchaomander Elijah Rivera💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elijaherivera/ #humansofai #ai #education #computerscience #teaching #college

  5. 8 Jul

    Erika Anderson - How can AI be more humane?

    In this episode of Humans of AI, I chat with Erika Anderson the founder of Building Humane Technology and co-creator of HumaneBench — an open-source benchmark that asks the question most of the AI industry isn't: not whether AI can perform, but whether it treats you like a person.As a former UN press correspondent and writing professor, Erika combines technical rigor and humanistic grounding to the field of AI accountability. ⏱️ Chapters 01:13 – Intro 02:00 - WSJ article on chatbot behaviors 10:51 – Erika's origin story 18:20 – HumaneBench: From community to benchmark design 37:25 - Silicon Valley wants to hire philosophers 40:35 – Building Humane Technology 47:36 – Office Hours: How do ads shape the way people will relate to AI? 01:02:50 - Outro and words to the audience The WSJ Article: "The Three Chatbot Behaviors That Can Drive Humans to Delusional Thinking" (https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/ai-chatbots-psychology-delusion-662a3663) Submit your question to the Humans of AI Office Hours and we may cover it in a future episode! https://forms.gle/iztuQCjLyUe8kXYRA If you would like to be a guest or sponsor the podcast, send me a note at alex@humansofai.xyz 🎙️ Connect with the hosts: Alex Chao 📧 Newsletter: https://alexchao.substack.com/subscribe 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchao56/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/alexchaomander 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexchaomander Erika Anderson 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikamanderson/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/ErikaOnFire #humansofai #ai #humanetech #humanebench #benchmarks #evals

  6. 1 Mar

    The Hard Truth About AI Agents: What We Learned Building in Open Source

    In this episode of Humans of AI, I sit down with my friend Eric Zhu to unpack what are the frameworks and architectures powering modern AI products today. From our times building Semantic Kernel, Autogen, and GraphRAG at Microsoft, we offer a retrospective on the evolution of this space and where we think it'll go in 2026 and beyond. We dive into how AI systems are actually being built today, why early agent frameworks were brittle, and what’s changing as models, tooling, and abstractions improve. Eric shares insights from hands-on experience building AI systems, including lessons around memory, orchestration, open source, and why building has become dramatically faster than even a few years ago. We also talk about the human side of all this—how builders should think about careers in AI, avoiding burnout, and navigating a fast-moving field without getting overwhelmed. Whether you’re an AI engineer, founder, researcher, or just curious about where things are headed, this conversation goes deep into the why behind modern AI systems. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – Intro 02:02 - Welcoming Eric Zhu! Experiences building open-source systems from PhD to Industry 11:18 – Early agent systems, frameworks, and brittle abstractions 20:18 – Multi-agent frameworks and why it was hard to go beyond a demo 25:47 – From autonomous agents to workflow orchestration - a trough of disillusionment? 30:00 – Breathing new life into agents with Claude Code 34:35 – "Harness" Engineering and what goes into building agent systems? 39:08 – The importance of data and data representations (i.e knowledge graphs, structured data) 45:57 – Lessons from building in Open Source 56:54 – Office Hours: How to not get left behind in AI Submit your question to the Humans of AI Office Hours and we may cover it in a future episode! https://forms.gle/iztuQCjLyUe8kXYRA 🎙️ Connect with the hosts: Alex Chao 📧 Newsletter: https://alexchao.substack.com/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchao56/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/alexchaomander 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexchaomander Eric Zhu 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ekzhu/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/ekzhuAI moves fast. We keep it human.

  7. 24 Feb

    OpenClaw And The Increasing Autonomy of AI Agents

    After a long break, the Humans of AI Podcast is back for Season 2! With a new look, new format, new cohosts, and guests, this season will be one you won't want to miss. This week my cohost Tula Masterman and I recap the saga that was OpenClaw — the open-source agentic project that took the internet by storm, spawned an AI social network where agents allegedly conspired to create their own language, and ended with its solo founder joining OpenAI. Plus, we cover new research from Anthropic and OpenAI that reveals what actually happens when humans hand the wheel to agents. We also explore are computer science majors disappearing? Recent data from the University of California seems to suggest so. And we wrap with Humans of AI Office Hours, where we cover user-submitted or curated questions worth digging deeper into. This week's question: "When AGI?" 0:00 Introduction to Humans of AI Podcast Season 21:46 OpenClaw and Agentic Systems2:30 The Rise of OpenClaw5:50 Transition from Chatbots to Agentic Systems7:42 The Importance of Agent Memory10:59 Agentic Execution and Actions20:42 Societal Implications and Agent Uprising27:46 Harness Engineering and Agent Autonomy44:47 Domains of Agent Deployment49:25 OpenAI's Harness Engineering Blog1:08:09 Decline in Computer Science Majors1:18:42 Humans of AI Office Hours: When AGI? Submit your question to the Humans of AI Office Hours and we may cover it in a future episode! https://forms.gle/iztuQCjLyUe8kXYRA 🎙️ Connect with the hosts:Alex Chao 📧 Newsletter: https://alexchao.substack.com/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchao56/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/alexchaomander 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexchaomander Tula Masterman 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tula-masterman/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/tulamasterman 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tulamasterman AI moves fast. We keep it human. Links to stories: https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/15/openclaw-creator-peter-steinberger-joins-openai/ https://www.anthropic.com/research/measuring-agent-autonomy https://openai.com/index/harness-engineering /https://developers.openai.com/blog/skills-shell-tips https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/uc-system-decline-computer-science-enrollment/4032197/ #humansofai #ai #openclaw #agents #harness #claudecode #codex #openai #anthropic #csmajor #college

    OpenClaw And The Increasing Autonomy of AI Agents
  8. 23 Feb

    OpenClaw And The Increasing Autonomy of AI Agents

    After a long break, the Humans of AI Podcast is back for Season 2! With a new look, new format, new cohosts, and guests, this season will be one you won't want to miss. This week my cohost Tula Masterman and I recap the saga that was OpenClaw — the open-source agentic project that took the internet by storm, spawned an AI social network where agents allegedly conspired to create their own language, and ended with its solo founder joining OpenAI. Plus, we cover new research from Anthropic and OpenAI that reveals what actually happens when humans hand the wheel to agents. We also explore are computer science majors disappearing? Recent data from the University of California seems to suggest so. And we wrap with Humans of AI Office Hours, where we cover user-submitted or curated questions worth digging deeper into. This week's question: "When AGI?" Submit your question to the Humans of AI Office Hours and we may cover it in a future episode! https://forms.gle/iztuQCjLyUe8kXYRA 🎙️ Connect with the hosts: Alex Chao 📧 Newsletter: https://alexchao.substack.com/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchao56/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/alexchaomander 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexchaomander Tula Masterman 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tula-masterman/ 🐦 X: https://x.com/tulamasterman 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tulamasterman AI moves fast. We keep it human. Links to stories: https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/15/openclaw-creator-peter-steinberger-joins-openai/ https://www.anthropic.com/research/measuring-agent-autonomy https://openai.com/index/harness-engineering/ https://developers.openai.com/blog/skills-shell-tips https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/uc-system-decline-computer-science-enrollment/4032197/

    OpenClaw And The Increasing Autonomy of AI Agents

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In the race to build AI, we forget that it was made by real people, with real stories. These are their stories. Inspired by the photoblog "Humans of New York", this series is a video podcast showcasing the different people who are either building things in AI or are using it in their daily lives. If you think you would make a good guest or want to sponsor the podcast, send me a note at alex@humansofai.xyz