The Market Gardener Podcast

JM Fortier

Welcome to The Market Gardener Podcast! Join hosts JM Fortier and Chris Moran as they engage with influential members of the global small-scale farming and organic regenerative agriculture community. Our podcast is your gateway to insightful conversations about farming, food, small businesses, and thought leadership in the world of sustainable agriculture. We're here to shine a positive light on the practices and principles that drive small-scale farming, agroecology, and community building. Tune in for high-level discussions that inspire and empower a new era of positive farming.

  1. 48: Eating Seasonally & Local: Why It Matters More Than Ever | JM Fortier

    9 APR

    48: Eating Seasonally & Local: Why It Matters More Than Ever | JM Fortier

    In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier celebrates his 48th birthday by reflecting on his 24-year journey as a market gardener. He revisits the foundational influence of Eliot Coleman’s The New Organic Grower, emphasizing how the "agricultural craftsmanship" of small-scale farming offers a meaningful alternative to industrial food production. The core of the episode outlines three guiding "North Stars" for the movement: reclaiming the integrity of the organic label, strengthening local food sheds to keep money in the community, and embracing seasonality as a social value. Jean-Martin argues that eating in-season from local greenhouses and root cellars creates a "good food revolution" that is impossible for industrial systems to replicate. He concludes by calling on farmers to stay rooted in their communities and fight for a food system defined by proximity, ecology, and joy. Timestamps  [0:00] Intro [04:18] Birthday reflections: 24 years of hustling, dreaming, and the "Good Food Revolution" [06:33] Current projects: Research at FQT farm and the Old Mill garden [08:58] Returning to the source: The enduring influence of Eliot Coleman’s The New Organic Grower [12:24] Trends in the movement: From the pressure to scale up to mastering the small-scale model [14:10] Agricultural Craftsmanship: Why growing food is a practice of presence, not industry [19:43] North Star #1: Reclaiming "Organic" and fighting off the dilution of the label [27:32] North Star #2: The power of locality and keeping wealth within the community [33:21] North Star #3: Seasonality as a tool for health, ethics, and community celebration [41:27] Summary: Building a future of proximity, ecology, and back-to-basics joy  Sponsors Real Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic. Thinkific: Built for the Business of Learning. Activevista: Specialised Tools and Seeds for Diversified Crop and Home Growers Links/Resources Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com  Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass  Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog  Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books Growers & Co: https://growers.co Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/ The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/ Follow Us Website: http://themarketgardener.com  Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute  Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners  Guest Social Media Links JM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

    46 min
  2. 47: Celebrity Chef Chuck Hughes On The Return Of Real Food: Why Great Chefs Are Going Back To The Farm

    26 MAR

    47: Celebrity Chef Chuck Hughes On The Return Of Real Food: Why Great Chefs Are Going Back To The Farm

    In this episode, Jean-Martin and Chris sit down with chef, restaurateur, and TV personality Chuck Hughes to explore his journey from the intense, rebellious kitchen culture of his early career to a more grounded life focused on family, purpose, and simplicity. He reflects on the evolution of food culture, emphasizing a return to local ingredients, authenticity, and respect for farmers. Chuck also opens up about the realities of restaurant life, leadership, and overcoming alcohol addiction, offering a candid look behind the scenes of the industry. Through his experiences in television and Indigenous communities across Canada, he highlights the deep connection between food, land, and tradition. Ultimately, the conversation centers on finding balance, staying true to what matters, and redefining success beyond fame and hustle. Timestamps  [02:15] Meet Chuck Hughes: chef, restaurateur, and TV personality [06:40] Early kitchen culture and the party lifestyle [11:25] Building a restaurant that stands the test of time [17:10] The evolution of food trends and cooking styles [23:45] From TV fame to real-life responsibilities [30:20] Becoming a father and redefining priorities [36:55] Leadership in the kitchen and team dynamics [43:10] Addiction, pressure, and the realities behind the scenes [50:35] Reconnecting with local food and farmers [58:20] The economics of restaurants and rising costs [01:05:10] Why good food starts with good sourcing [01:12:45] Balancing creativity with consistency in the kitchen [01:20:30] Mentorship and training the next generation of chefs [01:29:10] The role of media in shaping food culture [01:38:25] Challenges of scaling restaurants and staying authentic [01:47:50] Lessons learned from years in the industry [01:56:15] Rapid fire: advice, favorite meals, and final thoughts Sponsors Real Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic. Thinkific: Built for the Business of Learning. Felco:  Get 10% off your next purchase with the code MARKET10. Links/Resources Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com  Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass  Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog  Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books Growers & Co: https://growers.co Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/ The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/ Follow Us Website: http://themarketgardener.com  Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute  Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners  Guest Social Media Links Chuck Hughes: Website: https://www.chuckhughes.ca/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chefchuckhughes  TV Show: https://chuckfirstpeopleskitchen.com/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChuckHughesOfficial  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChefChuckHughes/  JM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

    2h 9m
  3. 46: Can 'Organic' Food Be Trusted Anymore? The Fight For The Integrity Of Organic Farming | Linley Dixon

    12 MAR

    46: Can 'Organic' Food Be Trusted Anymore? The Fight For The Integrity Of Organic Farming | Linley Dixon

    In this episode, Jean-Martin and Chris sit down with Linley Dixon, co-director of the Real Organic Project and a farmer/soil scientist, for a deep conversation about the future of organic agriculture. Linley shares how corporate interests, hydroponic systems, and regulatory loopholes are reshaping the meaning of “organic,” and why many farmers are working to protect the integrity of the label. The discussion explores the tensions between small farms and industrial-scale organic production, the economic realities farmers face, and why grassroots action may be the most powerful path forward. Along the way, the conversation dives into soil health, common myths around no-till and regenerative practices, and the science behind resilient farming systems.  Timestamps [02:37] Meet Linley Dixon (Real Organic Project) [07:56] The hidden problems inside the organic industry [10:25] Hydroponic systems vs soil-grown organic farming [15:23] From scientist to farmer: Linley Dixon’s journey [20:14] The origin of the Real Organic Project [31:31] Why farmers are joining the Real Organic certification movement [37:10] The real cost of food: Why organic seems expensive [41:16] Corporate consolidation and power in the food system [45:25] Market saturation and the challenge for new small farms [48:11] Industrial “organic” eggs and certification loopholes [56:42] Building a farmer-led movement to protect organic [01:07:24] Organic certification: Does the label still matter? [01:17:37] Inside Linley’s greenhouse system (high-yield tomato production) [01:31:03] Soil science explained: Mycorrhizae, tillage, and no-till myths [01:47:37] Local food vs global food systems [01:53:53] Rapid fire: books, advice, and lessons from farming Sponsors Real Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic. https://realorganicproject.org/ Tunnel Vision Hoops: Request a custom quote! http://tunnelvisionhoops.com | 833-886-6351 Activevista: Specialised Tools and Seeds for Diversified Crop and Home Growers https://www.activevista.com.au/  Links/Resources Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com  Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass  Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog  Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books Growers & Co: https://growers.co Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/ The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/ Follow Us Website: http://themarketgardener.com  Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media Links Linley Dixon:  Website: https://realorganicproject.org/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realorganicproject/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adobehousefarm  JM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

    2h 6m
  4. 45: Raising Livestock The Ethical Way: Lessons On Life & Death On The Farm | Tara Couture

    26 FEB

    45: Raising Livestock The Ethical Way: Lessons On Life & Death On The Farm | Tara Couture

    In this episode, we sit down with Tara Couture, author of Radiance of the Ordinary, to explore how her farming journey has reshaped her understanding of life, death, and what it means to live with reverence. From raising and harvesting animals with deep care to questioning industrial food systems, Tara speaks about the sacred responsibility of participating directly in the cycles that feed us. Rather than speaking of “healing,” she embraces the coexistence of joy and sorrow, and the quiet hope found in small, radiant moments. We also discuss writing as a clarifying practice, the limits of social media, and the importance of real human connection. Above all, this conversation is a reminder that beauty and meaning are often found in the most ordinary parts of life. Tara's book: Radiance of the Ordinary Timestamps [2:40] Discovering Radiance of the Ordinary and returning to the land after a fractured childhood. [7:20] From vegetarianism to sacred harvest: learning from a cattleman mentor and rethinking death. [14:50] The moral weight of killing animals and the responsibility of humane, on-farm slaughter. [20:45] Death as a teacher: how mortality deepens presence and gratitude for ordinary moments. [24:00] Writing as clarity: Substack, storytelling, and resisting the noise of social media. [39:30] Grief and the calves: losing a daughter and being gently tethered back to life. [55:05] Industrial abattoirs, ethics of meat, and why participation matters. [1:08:10] Beauty, craftsmanship, and creating spaces that feel alive and rooted in place. [1:25:15] Homesteading online: comparison, illusion, and the cost of digital validation. [1:47:30] Rapid fire Q&A Sponsors Real Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic. Felco:  Get 10% off your next purchase with the code MARKET10. Links/Resources Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com  Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass  Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog  Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books Growers & Co: https://growers.co Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/ The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/ Follow Us Website: http://themarketgardener.com  Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute  Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners  Guest Social Media Links Tara Couture:  Website: https://www.slowdownfarmstead.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/slowdownfarmstead/?hl=en  Substack: https://www.slowdownfarmstead.com/     JM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

    2h 5m
  5. 44: When Farming Is Hard: Burnout, Doubt, and Why Our Farms Matter | JM Fortier

    12 FEB

    44: When Farming Is Hard: Burnout, Doubt, and Why Our Farms Matter | JM Fortier

    In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier reflects on the emotional and ethical dimensions of small-scale farming, especially in the quieter months after a demanding season. He shares why the growing season often requires farmers to simply push through challenges, and why the off-season is the right time to revisit what was hard, both practically and emotionally. Drawing from personal experience, he explores burnout, resilience, and the importance of rest, reflection, and continuous improvement. The episode then turns toward the ethics of local agriculture and the role of human-scale, decentralized food systems in shaping a more resilient future. Jean-Martin closes by revisiting the original vision behind The Market Gardener and why farming remains a meaningful act of commitment to ecology, community, and lifestyle. Timestamps [5:12] A personal encounter that reveals burnout behind meaningful food system work. [9:05] Finishing the season exhausted, uncertain, and emotionally spent. [12:10] Why the off-season is the right moment to revisit what was hard. [17:50] Learning to live with hardship, money stress, and long-term resilience. [26:20] Shifting into winter mode and reflecting on the ethics of local agriculture. [32:05] Books and thinkers that shaped Jean-Martin’s views on local and human-scale farming. [44:55] Revisiting the conclusion of The Market Gardener and closing reflections. Sponsors Real Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic. Activevista: Specialized Tools and Seeds for Diversified Crop and Home Growers Tunnel Vision Hoops: Request a custom quote! tunnelvisionhoops.com | 833-886-6351 Market Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today! Links/Resources Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com  Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass  Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog  Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books Growers & Co: https://growers.co Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/ The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/ Follow Us Website: http://themarketgardener.com  Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute  Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners  Guest Social Media Links JM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

    56 min
  6. 43: The Epic Story Of Regenerative Agriculture In Patagonia: Small Farms Big Wilderness | Francisco Vio

    29 JAN

    43: The Epic Story Of Regenerative Agriculture In Patagonia: Small Farms Big Wilderness | Francisco Vio

    In this episode, we sit down with Francisco Vio of ‘Huerto Cuatro Estaciones’ farm in Chile, to explore the wild world of living and farming in remote Patagonia. From early mentors in Ecuador to building an organic farm at the edge of the world, Francisco shares how beauty, land stewardship, and community have shaped his choices. The conversation weaves together farming, conservation, and the influence of figures like Doug Tompkins who helped create some of the world’s largest protected wilderness areas. Francisco reflects on how small-scale market gardening fits in to the vision and context of national parks and he reminds us that farming is not just a business, but a way of life; a beautiful way of life. Timestamps [6:45] A life-changing stay on an organic farm in Ecuador and the role of early mentors. [12:40] Discovering small-scale organic farming and the search for a meaningful way of life. [18:05] Doug Tompkins, conservation, and the creation of national parks in Patagonia. [26:30] Choosing to farm in extreme isolation and what it demands on a daily basis. [33:20] Living far from markets: logistics, importing tools, and building local solutions. [40:15] Farming as a cultural act: beauty, place, and community beyond productivity. [48:10] Why staying small matters and resisting the pressure to scale at all costs. [55:30] Learning from global farm visits and the value of traveling to stay inspired. [1:03:40] Parenthood, responsibility, and redefining success as a farmer. [1:11:55] Failure, long-term vision, and committing fully to a chosen path. [1:13:28] Rapid fire Q&A: books, advice to young farmers, food, and pivotal life decisions. Sponsors Real Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic. Activevista: Specialised Tools and Seeds for Diversified Crop and Home Growers Market Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today! Links/Resources Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com  Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass  Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog  Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books Growers & Co: https://growers.co Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/ The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/ Follow Us Website: http://themarketgardener.com  Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute  Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners  Guest Social Media Links Francisco Vio: Website: https://huertocuatroestaciones.cl Instagram: https://instagram.com/huertocuatroestaciones  Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/huertocuatroestaciones  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@huertocuatroestaciones5844  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/105164245  JM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

    1hr 34min
  7. 42: $120K with Less Than a Quarter Acre: Rootbound Farm’s Unique Suburban Farm Business Model | Woody DeLauder

    15 JAN

    42: $120K with Less Than a Quarter Acre: Rootbound Farm’s Unique Suburban Farm Business Model | Woody DeLauder

    In this episode, we sit down with Woody DeLauder, founder of Rootbound Farms, a small but highly productive suburban farm based in Southern Maryland. Woody shares how he transformed his suburban lawn into a thriving, human-powered market garden that generates over $100K annually, with the help of his secret best-seller: handmade soap, all while navigating zoning restrictions, skeptical neighbors, and the realities of farming in a residential neighborhood.  We explore Woody’s journey from being a fourth and fifth grade teacher to becoming a full-time grower and entrepreneur, and how growing food in his front yard became a catalyst for rebuilding community in the suburbs. Woody reflects on the cultural challenges of suburban life, the loss of shared spaces, and how food production can reconnect neighbors through visibility, conversation, and generosity.  Rootbound Farms: https://www.rootboundfarms.com/  Timestamps [0:00] Intro [3:40] The good, the bad, and the ugly of social media  [7:30] What’s broken in modern suburbia and the idea of “living room kids” [13:00] Turning lawns into gardens and rethinking suburban norms [19:30] Front-yard farming, neighbor resistance, and zoning challenges [27:15] Building community through visibility, food, and conversation [35:30] From teacher to farmer: changing careers and redefining success [43:00] Farm economics: small footprint, low overhead, and real revenue [52:30] Influences from Curtis Stone, Eliot Coleman, and small-scale pioneers [1:01:00] Social media, virality, and the cost of visibility [1:23:40] Seasonality, local food culture, and rebuilding appreciation for real food [1:29:00] Long-term vision: education, community farms, and inclusive spaces [1:44:50] Rapid Fire Q&A: books, advice, influences, and staying small Sponsors Real Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic. Johnny’s Selected Seeds: Sign up for Johnny’s newsletter to receive the latest news, products, and more. New members get $10 off their next order of $50 or more! Market Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today! Links/Resources Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com  Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass  Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog  Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books Growers & Co: https://growers.co Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/ The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/ Follow Us Website: http://themarketgardener.com  Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute  Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners  Guest Social Media Links Rootbound Farms: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rootboundfarms/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OurRootboundLife Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rootboundfarms?_t=8h03SuFkTBD&_r=1 Website: https://www.rootboundfarms.com/  JM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

    1hr 59min
  8. 41: Meet Japan’s Most Famous Farmer Supplying Asia’s Top Restaurants | Yuzuru Kajiya

    11/12/2025

    41: Meet Japan’s Most Famous Farmer Supplying Asia’s Top Restaurants | Yuzuru Kajiya

    In this episode, we sit down with Yuzuru Kajiya, a famous farmer from Japan who supplies top-tier, three-star Michelin restaurants across Japan and Asia. Yuzuru shares his journey from touring elite French restaurants in his youth to starting his own farm focused on growing unique, exotic, and high-quality produce, a contrast to traditional Japanese farming. We explore Japanese culture and how values like craftsmanship and perfection translate into his farm and the restaurants he works with, and how Japan’s uniquely low land cost is failing to attract new young farmers. Yuzuru also reflects on how his Canadian education in horticulture and exposure to Western culture shaped his mindset, enabling him to succeed by adopting new methods and focusing on the culinary farmer niche. Consider this episode your gateway into Japanese farm and food culture; we’re sure you’ll find it as interesting as we did! Kajiya Farm: https://kajiyafarm.jp/  Timestamps [0:00] Intro [8:00] Yuzuru’s farming education and youth in Canada [10:18] Touring 3-Star Michelin restaurants around the world [13:15] Discovering unique farmers in Europe and Asafumi Yamashita’s influence [24:18] Yuzuru’s strategy to focus on unique, exotic crops and direct sales to chefs [27:31] The taste-test trip to Paris to gain confidence and connections [30:42] Business explodes with the launch of the Michelin Tokyo guide [32:01] Finding and training the right workforce [43:24] Japan's changing economy and the farming landscape [53:51] Japanese small tools and market gardening techniques [1:00:44] High-value specialty crops, edible flowers, and foraging [1:18:41] Japan’s incredible shipping system [1:33:53] Rapid Fire Q&A: One-Straw Revolution, Personal Advice, and Snowboarding Sponsors Real Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic. Market Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today! Links/Resources Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com  Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass  Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog  Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books Growers & Co: https://growers.co Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/ The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/ Follow Us Website: http://themarketgardener.com  Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute  Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners  Guest Social Media Links Yuzuru Kajiya: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kajiyafarm/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kajiyafarm/  Website: https://kajiyafarm.jp/  JM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

    1hr 51min
5
out of 5
3 Ratings

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Welcome to The Market Gardener Podcast! Join hosts JM Fortier and Chris Moran as they engage with influential members of the global small-scale farming and organic regenerative agriculture community. Our podcast is your gateway to insightful conversations about farming, food, small businesses, and thought leadership in the world of sustainable agriculture. We're here to shine a positive light on the practices and principles that drive small-scale farming, agroecology, and community building. Tune in for high-level discussions that inspire and empower a new era of positive farming.

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