Education Matters

Education Matters

Hannah and Lucy talk about teaching through the winter.

  1. 2 days ago

    In Conversation with John Gibbs | Dr Sinéad McCauley Lambe

    John Gibbs is joined by Dr Sinéad McCauley Lambe, Assistant Professor in the Department of Inclusive and Special Education at Dublin City University, for a conversation about handwriting, and why it's far more complicated than pen on page. Sinéad spent eleven years teaching junior primary in an all boys school in Dublin's north inner city before her classroom experience turned into doctoral research, and she's spent the years since trying to answer a question that sounds simple and isn't. Why do so many children arrive at school unable to hold a pencil, line up in a queue or peel an orange? That question became her "problem of practice", and it took her from a single school in an area of lower socioeconomic status to a study across ten classrooms in six schools, comparing DEIS and non-DEIS settings using a standardised motor assessment. What she found was stark. Motor proficiency was significantly lower among children from disadvantaged backgrounds, even once age was accounted for, and the gap showed up long before anyone picked up a pencil. Handwriting, Sinéad explains, was never really the point. It was the most measurable output of something much bigger, gross motor development, postural stability, core strength and visual processing, all of which have to be in place before fine motor skills like handwriting can follow. She traces her own light bulb moment back to an occupational therapist telling her that a struggling pupil needed shoulder strength before he needed a better pencil grip, and to a school principal who had junior infants crawl, roll and shuffle across a hall so he could spot developmental gaps before they became problems. The conversation ranges widely and stays grounded throughout. Sinéad talks John through visual discrimination, why some children see their own letters as a jumble of shapes, the overlap between drawing, art and handwriting instruction, and why a box of good pens and scented markers did more for reluctant writers than any worksheet. She's candid about the limits of technology too. Laptops and tablets have a real place for learners with significant motor or perceptual difficulties, but a study she cites, comparing pupils given laptops for a mock exam, found the attainment gap between groups persisted regardless. Typing isn't a shortcut around a motor difficulty, and for most children, she argues, the effortful, embodied process of learning to write by hand still matters for literacy, memory and comprehension in ways a keyboard simply doesn't replicate. There's also a sharp, honest exchange on school culture, the sedentary bias built into most classrooms, the pressure teachers feel to look like they're teaching even when the most useful thing happening is a child playing on the floor, and the quiet damage done by practices like the pen licence. "It's a really deficit kind of approach and it makes people feel bad about themselves, when that's not the purpose of handwriting," Sinéad says, and she's just as clear that handwriting has to be explicitly taught. Sensory play in sand or Play-Doh won't get a child writing on its own. It has to sit alongside, not instead of, time spent with a pencil in hand. For anyone working in teacher education, initial teacher training, CPD or classroom practice, this episode offers a genuinely fresh lens on a subject most of us assume we already understand. It closes on an image Sinéad can't quite shake, a small boy in a Belgian forest bringing his bike to a stop, climbing a tree, climbing back down and cycling off again, doing without any adult prompting exactly what she spends her working life trying to build back into classrooms. If you care about literacy, inclusive education or the small physical foundations that learning depends on, this one is well worth your time. Subscribe to Education Matters wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss what's coming next.

  2. 2 days ago

    Teaching Matters | NEETS, Quiets & The Rich Exit

    Teaching Matters returns for the new school year. It’s your weekly panel show from Education Matters, hosted by Paul Hazzard who this week is joined by John Gibbs. We help you unwind, not wind you up. The first conversation is based on The Guardian's article by Richard Partington which explores the major review led by Alan Milburn. A chief recommendation is that primary schools in England identify children as young as pre-school who are at risk of future youth worklessness. Paul asks whether a ten-year-old can really be marked out for a life of unemployment, education or training gaps, and John doesn't shy away from the tension at the heart of it. "The child is father to the man," he says, borrowing from Wordsworth, before warning that pushing determinism too far "would negate education" altogether. Their exchange ranges across nature and nurture, the anti-educational risk of writing children off early and the loaded vocabulary of policy reviews, where words like "upstream failure" reveal more values than their authors perhaps intend. John's line that teachers "have to behave as though everything was possible for every child, even though we must also know that can't be true" sits right at the centre of this discussion, and it's one that will resonate with anyone working in teacher education or school leadership. Next, we turn to quieter classrooms and quieter children. We're drawing on Sean Sutton's writing on inclusive classroom practice. John and I talk through what it actually means to make space for shy or introverted learners without forcing them into performative moments they dread. John remembers teaching a boy who stumbled through reading aloud in front of the class and reflects on how far schools have come since then, and I share a memory of a Lego club that unlocked confidence in children who were otherwise painfully quiet. It's a warm, practical stretch of the conversation if you're thinking about classroom culture, pastoral care or CPD around pupil wellbeing, and a reminder that rapport often does more than curriculum ever could. John puts it simply, "it's a relationship profession," and we both agree that knowing a child well enough to spot their quiet strengths matters just as much as any lesson plan. Our last story looks at high earning parents, largely in the United States, who are ditching traditional schools in favour of personalised, entrepreneurial and AI driven alternatives, as reported by Katherine Bindley in the Wall Street Journal. John's sceptical of parents trying to future proof their children with skills that will likely be redundant by the time they're grown, and he doesn't hold back: "privilege will buy privilege for their kids, and that definitely works," whether that's elite schooling, tutoring or simply access to galleries and dinner table conversation. It leaves us asking something I think every listener will recognise, wherever you're teaching, from the UK and Ireland to the United States, Australia, New Zealand and Canada: what does a genuinely well-educated young person actually look like now, and can any single system deliver it? And of course we finish with Banana Time. I share a short video from Andy Hargreaves on the quiet teacher, and John tells me the story of stumbling across Richard Dadd's extraordinary painting The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke decades ago, and his plans to finally see it in person at the Royal Academy this September.

    Teaching Matters | NEETS, Quiets & The Rich Exit
  3. 12 Aug

    The Hannah & Lucy Show | Teachable Moments

    Fresh back from Las Vegas and with the World Cup 26 behind them Hannah and Lucy take to the airwaves in the summer heat to tell us all about teachable moments. They start with the World Cup and Team Algeria's host city assignment in Lawrence, Kansas. A famously conservative American town adopted a North African football team with open arms, flags and genuine affection, and Lucy holds it up as proof that solidarity can outrun geography and politics. Hannah connects this straight back to her own classroom practice, describing feedback from a pilot she has been running for One World in Schools, where pupils encountered the Bristol Bike Project's work with asylum seekers and, in her words, discovered that "they're in a really horrible situation because they want to be part of society but they can't be." From there Hannah and Lucy turn to masculinity and to what football got right this summer. Hannah and Lucy spend real time on the friendship between Jude Bellingham and Erling Haaland, the shirt swaps, the affectionate teasing and the very public hugs, arguing that visible tenderness between men is exactly the modelling boys need and rarely see. Nico Williams handing his World Cup medal straight to his mother becomes a way into talking about migration and gratitude, while Bellingham crediting his mother's insistence that he keep his temper under control offers a neat parallel with teacher to pupil relationships. There is a detour into female friendship too, with Hannah reflecting that women can be quick to undermine each other and arguing instead that "it should never be pulling each other down to try and get further up." Not everything from the tournament earns praise. The pair are unflinching about the violence that followed the third place match, and about what they see as a troubling silence from football's governing bodies since. Lucy is particularly direct, arguing that inaction from FIFA amounts to tacit approval and that "by not doing anything, you're saying, well, that's fine." Both hosts talk through how they would actually teach this in an assembly or PSHE lesson, using the gap between what happened on the pitch and what would happen to a PE teacher who did the same thing to make consequences and fairness concrete for pupils. There is lighter chat too. Curaçao's joyful, hopeless run through the tournament becomes an argument for celebrating effort over outcome, the Viking Row banter between Norway and England shows pupils what good natured rivalry looks like without cruelty and Japan and Mexico's fans quietly clearing the stadiums after their matches earns its own small tribute to community pride. Hannah shares a moment with her own son that captures the episode in miniature, recalling him telling her he prefers watching football with her because "you don't get angry and don't say bad words." This is less a football episode than an education episode that happens to use football as its case study. Hannah and Lucy talk with the warmth, self-deprecation and occasional chaos that regular listeners will recognise, jet lag and all, while circling back to what actually lands with pupils and how to turn a viral clip into a genuine opening assembly or classroom discussion. Teachers looking for ready-made material on inclusion, respect, friendship and accountability will find plenty here, in a conversation that never feels like a lecture. Subscribe to Education Matters and follow The Hannah and Lucy Show for more of their blend of policy, pastoral insight and classroom practice, delivered with the honesty and humour that has made it a firm favourite among teachers, teacher educators and anyone who cares about what actually happens in schools.

    The Hannah & Lucy Show | Teachable Moments
  4. 14 Jul

    Education Matters | Virginia Kerr

    Virginia Kerr has been a TV reporter, a news anchor, a social media strategist with a TikTok following approaching a million and a YouTube educator who built a seven year business teaching storytelling from a converted laundry room … and so much more … . At fifty-two, with that career already stacked high with achievement, she has decided to become a full time high school teacher, taking on audio and video production classes for teenagers who mostly have no idea who she is or what she used to do. Virginia is candid about walking into a school where nobody knows her despite decades in front of a camera and a level of local recognition most people spend a career chasing. She talks Paul through the discomfort of becoming a first year teacher, "I feel like a rookie who's gonna get hazed," she admits, before adding the line that anchors the episode, that the twenty two year old version of her could never have made this move, but the fifty two year old finally can. Chat moves through why Virginia left television, the exhaustion of chasing numbers on social media and the moment she realised constant reinvention had been leading somewhere all along. She reflects honestly on an old instinct to prove herself through titles and promotions, and how none of it ever brought the purpose she was chasing. "Our stories are our superpower," she says, describing why she stopped trying to sound like an expert and started sounding like herself. Paul and Virginia talk at length about authenticity in front of a class and how the skills of building an audience translate, or fail to translate, into building rapport with fifteen to seventeen year olds. Virginia describes the balance new teachers are told to strike early on, projecting enough authority that pupils take instructions seriously, while still being recognisably human once trust is established. She is candid that she is holding some of her natural openness in check in the first weeks, partly because her own son is in one of her classes. There is a strong thread centred on wellbeing running throughout the episode. Virginia describes cutting news and social media scrolling from her routine and the surprising effect that had on her cortisol levels according to her doctor. She credits a teacher she admires online, CJ Reynolds, for the idea of protecting your mindset before you walk into a room full of teenagers and cites the writer and career changer Lucy Kellaway on the particular humility required when decades of professional respect count for nothing on day one in teaching. Paul draws out the practical realities too, five classes of up to thirty pupils, projects built around storytelling rather than technical process and the logistics of pupils leaving the classroom to film unsupervised around the school site. Virginia explains why she is flipping the traditional curriculum for the subject, leading with narrative and purpose before technical editing skills, and how she plans to use video from pupils she already knows from her time as a substitute teacher and school social media coordinator to bring lessons to life. This is a conversation about courage, about starting again in public and about what it actually takes to move from high visibility work into a classroom of thirty teenagers who, in some cases, could not care less how many followers you once had. Anyone thinking about a late career change into teaching, or already living through one, will find plenty here that’s valuable, informative and just plain absorbing. New episodes of Education Matters land regularly, so subscribe and follow wherever you listen to make sure you never miss a conversation like this one.

  5. 13 Jul

    Education Matters | Katrina Bradley

    Paul Hazzard is joined by Katrina Bradley, a former music teacher turned numeracy specialist, resource designer and entrepreneur, for a conversation that ranges across curiosity, confidence and what it actually takes to make maths click. Katrina traces her own path from a music degree and eight years as a peripatetic music teacher to retraining as a primary school teacher, and explains how the skills she used teaching rhythm, notation and metre turned out to be exactly the skills she now uses teaching mathematics. She talks about her love of "puzzle solving" over "problem solving," a deliberate reframing that removes the anxiety many children attach to the word problem before they've even attempted it. Katrina shares a lovely workshop story about asking primary pupils whether there's maths in the supermarket and watching the thumbs-down paddles slowly turn to thumbs-up once they realise maths is already everywhere in their daily lives, including, inevitably, in their maths homework. The conversation moves into early years practice, where Katrina describes auditing nursery outdoor spaces to build mathematically rich environments, the kind where children naturally sort, measure and pattern without being taught a formal lesson, and argues that primary schools could learn a great deal from what nurseries already do so well. Paul and Katrina discuss the deep link between self-belief and mathematical ability, with Paul sharing his own lifelong sense of not being "a maths person" despite a natural knack for estimation, and Katrina makes the case that maths should be broken into smaller components rather than treated as a single subject you're either good or bad at. She talks candidly about how maths can "annihilate confidence" in a way few other subjects do, and why celebrating different routes to the same answer, not just the right answer, matters so much in the classroom. Conversation moves to mathematical talk and vocabulary, including the striking example of a resource that couldn't be translated into Polish because English has so many different words for multiplication and why children without the language to explain their thinking often stay silent or overuse whatever words they do have. Katrina explains the origins of her business, born out of the pandemic when parents were crying out for the manipulatives and visual resources schools use but families didn't have at home and how that grew into Connectrio and a full suite of tools now used everywhere from nursery classrooms to regional colleges teaching essential skills. Katrina is refreshingly honest about the tension between being pushed towards "ed tech" framing by investors and staying true to her belief that children need concrete, physical resources rather than more screens. There's a brilliant moment where Katrina explains how modern times tables teaching uses mathematical reasoning, working from a secure fact like ten sixes to reach a trickier one like nine sixes, and recalls a parent in one of her sessions accusing her of "cheating" for teaching it that way rather than by rote. Paul and Katrina also get into the pressures of running a business built on a teacher's instincts, from product compliance and manufacturing to social media and the guilt of never quite switching off, and draw some sharp parallels between burnout in teaching and burnout in entrepreneurship. The episode closes on a genuinely important question for anyone involved in maths education: at what point does teaching to the test start working against a child's ability to use maths for life? Katrina's answer, rooted in years of classroom and boardroom experience, is that children need to understand the why of mathematics, not just the how. This is an essential conversation for teachers, parents and anyone who has ever doubted their own mathematical ability. Follow Education Matters wherever you get your podcasts for more conversations shaping teaching and learning across the UK.

  6. 12 Jul

    Teaching Matters | Shuffling Numbers, Boom n Bust & Primary Languages

    John and Paul co-host the weekly panel show Teaching Matters and explore the Guardian investigation into a school inquiry, led by Estelle Morris and backed by the Department for Education, that recommends high-performing schools admit more disadvantaged white working-class pupils. This story reads like a cautionary tale about school privatisation. Durham High School, owned by the China-linked Galaxy Global Education Group, has closed its doors with almost no warning, leaving pupils mid-exam and a whole community reeling. John makes the point that once a school becomes an asset rather than an institution, closure is only ever a spreadsheet decision away. It's a wide-ranging conversation about school leadership, trust governance, marketisation and what happens when market capitalism collides with the classroom, made sharper by the irony that Durham had been named Sunday Times Independent School of the Year for the North East barely a year earlier. Paul and John ask what accountability, if any, should follow decades of privatisation policy. New research from the British Council finds that nearly half of primary schools in England struggle to find curriculum time for languages, and Paul and John use it to interrogate the whole idea of a knowledge-rich curriculum. If primary timetables are already bursting at the seams, what gets squeezed out, and what does that mean for language learning further down the line into secondary education? Paul draws on his own experience of Irish medium education in Northern Ireland to make the case for early language immersion and its impact on children's confidence, while John wonders whether curriculum design has simply forgotten what primary school is actually for. Banana time closes the episode on a properly reflective note. Paul borrows from Albert Camus, quoting the philosopher's claim that "what I know most surely about morality and duty, I owe to football," and draws out the parallels between the pitch and the classroom, from unpredictability to shared rules regardless of background to the constant demand to react in the moment, before bringing in Paulo Freire's idea of radical, dialogic education. John's banana this week is a fascinating tale about pigeons. Behavioural experiments show that even pigeons, having found a food strategy that reliably works, will abandon it just to see what else might happen, and John makes the case that this same appetite for chaos explains a good deal of classroom behaviour, and probably deserves a little more patience and curiosity from teachers than it usually gets. Teaching Matters will be back in late August or early September with more stories, more debate and more banana time. Until then, subscribe or follow wherever you get your podcasts so you don't miss the return.

    Teaching Matters | Shuffling Numbers, Boom n Bust & Primary Languages
  7. 11 Jul

    The Hannah & Lucy Show | Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't!

    Lucy and Hannah are back on The Hannah and Lucy Show with the episode teachers have been quietly nodding along to since the last bell of summer term rang, Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't. Recorded in that strange, sun-baked, brain-fried week between the end of exams and the actual holidays, this one takes on everything the summer term throws at teachers, parents and pupils alike, and asks why so much of it feels like a trap with no right answer. It starts with the calendar itself. Sports days, summer fairs, end-of-year assemblies, all crammed into the hottest, busiest weeks of the year and scheduled as though every parent has nothing else on. Lucy pulls apart a recent Independent piece on exactly this tension, with figures showing that seventy four percent of families with school-aged children now have two parents in work, over half of them full-time. Hannah, a working mother juggling shifting after-school care and a co-parenting arrangement, brings the lived reality of trying to be in two places at once. As Hannah puts it, "I think all teachers should be prescribed a bit of water," a line that lands somewhere between joke and genuine plea after a term that has taken it out of everyone. From there the conversation moves to the heatwave school closures that made headlines this summer, and the government messaging around attendance that Lucy and Hannah both find maddening in its refusal to offer practical alternatives. That leads naturally into the World Cup, where more than three hundred thousand pupils were recorded absent the morning after England's win over Mexico. Rather than simply tutting at the numbers, the pair dig into the teachable moments buried in major tournaments, from conversations about patriotism versus nationalism to the idea that racism is learned rather than innate, and the missed opportunity schools have to use football as a way into difficult, honest classroom discussion. School uniform gets a proper airing too, from the case for PE kit as an all-day option to the absurdity of ties, blazers and socks becoming disciplinary flashpoints. Lucy is unambiguous on the subject, offering one of the episode's sharpest lines: "school is meant to be a great leveller," and both hosts agree the current system too often achieves the opposite. The conversation widens further into the attainment and attendance gap facing working-class white boys, a topic that rarely gets serious airtime, alongside the wider question of how schools communicate expectations to parents when home-school relationships still bear the scars of the pandemic. There is space too for the Department for Education's £700,000 spend on influencers, a detail both hosts find hard to let go of, and a genuinely useful detour into a token-based strategy for managing screen time at home, swapping telly minutes for reading time without a single raised voice. Detentions come under scrutiny as well, weighing the relationship-building value of teacher-led sanctions against the efficiency of centralised systems, with a nod to using film and documentary in the dying days of term when everyone, staff included, is simply trying to get to the finish line. Underneath the jokes about friendship bracelets, sea swims and Elvis wigs sits a genuinely thoughtful hour on teacher wellbeing, school leadership, parental engagement and the realities of classroom practice at the sharpest end of the school year. It is Education Matters at its most human: two experienced teachers thinking out loud about the profession they love, the pupils they worry about and the policies that make their jobs harder than they need to be. If you work in education, parent a school-aged child, or just want an honest, funny, occasionally furious take on what the summer term is really like, this one is for you. Subscribe to Education Matters and follow The Hannah and Lucy Show so you never miss an episode, and do let us know which side of the detention debate you land on.

    The Hannah & Lucy Show | Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't!

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Hannah and Lucy talk about teaching through the winter.