The Autism Mums Podcast

Victoria Bennion and Natalie Tealdi

Welcome to The Autism Mums Podcast — a supportive space for parents and carers navigating life with autistic children. We’re your hosts, Victoria and Natalie, two sisters raising autistic children. We know the joy, the overwhelm and the thousand tiny moments no one else quite gets. That’s why we created this podcast - to offer a safe space, a sense of community, and some gentle encouragement along the way. In each episode, we’ll bring you honest conversations, shared strength, and expert insights to support your journey. Whether you're celebrating a win, managing a meltdown, or just trying to get through the day, you’ll find real talk and real understanding here. You can expect mum to mum chats, practical tips, mini solo moments and conversations with experts. Whether you’re new to this journey or deep in the day-to-day, we see you and we’re walking this path with you.

  1. Before the Diagnosis: What to Do When Your Child Is Struggling and Support Feels Miles Away

    5 DAYS AGO

    Before the Diagnosis: What to Do When Your Child Is Struggling and Support Feels Miles Away

    In this week's episode of The Autism Mums Podcast we're talking about what to do when your child is struggling and support feels a long way off. We talk honestly about what it feels like when things start to break down before any formal support is in place, and share the practical things that actually helped us and our children during that difficult waiting period. Key TakeawaysYou are not alone — there will be other parents in the same situation, often hovering outside the same school gate.Schools receive additional funding for children on the SEN register even without an EHCP. You can ask how this funding is being used to support your child.Under Section 19 of the Education Act 1996, your local authority has a legal duty to provide suitable full-time alternative education for children who cannot attend school - this applies whether or not your child has an EHC plan.Councils and schools don't always tell you what's available. Do your own research.SENDIASS offers free, impartial advice.When your child's nervous system is overwhelmed, reduce demands across the board, including everyday things like getting dressed or sitting at the table. This is temporary, and you can rebuild later.Lean into whatever regulates your child, whether that's screens, gaming, Lego, or their special interest. This is not the time to restrict it.Movement, nature, and quieter environments can be powerful regulators, particularly away from busy, sensory-heavy places.Other parents ahead of you on this journey are one of your best sources of information.If you can access the Early Bird course (or a similar programme in your area) even before a formal diagnosis it can be well worth it.It is okay to say no to birthday parties, family events, and social obligations that are too much right now, for your child and for you.Look after yourself. Connect with other parents, speak to your GP, consider counselling. You cannot advocate well for your child if you are running on empty.Trust yourself. You know your child better than anyone. Don't let that be swayed. Mentioned in This EpisodeSEN Budget for Mainstream Schools Advice about School Anxiety Getting Temporary Education Put in Place SENDIASS — free, confidential, impartial advice and support for families of children with SEND: find your local service The Horse Course — equine intervention for children with anxiety: thehorsecourse.org Early Bird Programme — support for families of autistic children, usually post-diagnosis Connect with The Autism MumsWebsite – https://theautismmums.com/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theautismmums Follow us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@theautismmums Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theautismmums

    27 min
  2. Growing Up Together: Siblings and Autism

    28 APR

    Growing Up Together: Siblings and Autism

    In this episode, Natalie and Victoria talk about raising siblings who have different needs. Key TakeawaysHow sibling dynamics shift over time, especially as children reach their teensThe unique challenges that come with PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) in sibling relationshipsWhy it's important to let siblings just be siblings, rather than stepping into a co-parenting roleSensory clashes between siblings — when one child's coping mechanism is another's triggerExplaining autism to younger siblings in an age-appropriate wayHow to handle meltdowns when both children need you at the same timeFairness vs. equality — why "everyone gets what they need" is a more helpful frame than equal treatmentThe importance of one-on-one time and separate activities for each child Mentioned in This EpisodeWonderfully Wired Brains: An Introduction to the World of Neurodiversity An informative and inclusive children's guide to neurodiversity for those not in the know and to inspire children who are neurodivergent. MyTime Young Carers — weekly online activities and events for siblings of disabled children Sibs — UK charity dedicated to supporting brothers and sisters of disabled people Young Sibs Contact Carers Trust Sense Connect with The Autism MumsWebsite – https://theautismmums.com/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theautismmums Follow us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@theautismmums Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theautismmums TranscriptVictoria Bennion: [00:00:00] In this episode, we're talking about what it can look like growing up with an autistic brother and sister. What does that look like for siblings? Natalie Tealdi: Yeah, so we are coming at it from the perspective of parents observing a sibling relationship every family is different, but there are definitely common things that come up that I'm sure you'll recognize. Victoria Bennion: One of the things that comes up, I've noticed is difference in development. Sometimes there's an age gap and sometimes there isn't, but you might notice children reaching milestones. In a different order or at a different pace than you expected? Natalie Tealdi: Yeah, I definitely noticed that with mine. I think I've been thinking about this a lot more recently because I have a younger daughter, older son. A son with diagnosis, and the rates of development of each child, in some ways the youngest is catching up with the oldest when there's a five-year difference. And looking at the impact of that on the older one. I think it can bring up mixed [00:01:00] feelings for siblings sometimes it can be motivating or encouraging, but other times it can feel confusing, especially when trying to understand something that seems easy for one child and it's hard for the other. Victoria Bennion: I think that's where gentle age, appropriate explanations can help a bit. Talking about how everyone's brain works differently and how development isn't a straight line. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah, we've used books in the past. I don't know if you've, done that. Mine's a much younger child, but we have started introducing, what autism is to her and we do have a book that explains that brains work differently, which we can link to in the show notes, which could be quite helpful. Victoria Bennion: That's a good idea. We've used a couple of videos, which would been helpful, but not books, but mine are a little bit older. Natalie Tealdi: I think another thing that comes up for us is that communication styles can be different. So if one child has PDA, and big anxieties around demands, that can be quite tricky for a sibling to understand. Victoria Bennion: Oh, yeah. Particularly if one uses direct language, even if they [00:02:00] don't mean it unkindly, it can feel like pressure to the other sibling and the other sibling doesn't always realize Natalie Tealdi: yeah, we definitely have that with my youngest is trying to be mothering and be helpful. But using quite a lot of language, like trying to tell my son what to do and it doesn't always go down well 'cause it's not quite how we would phrase things either. So trying to be helpful, but then it's kind of backfiring. Victoria Bennion: Yeah. Something that we've found it quite helpful to do is to try to reinforce to the older siblings that they don't need to be. Co-parent. They don't need to try to manage the other's behavior, on our behalf. I've said that's what me and your dad are for. Your role is to be a sister. But that's something that we've really had to be mindful of and work on because it was causing problems. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. And you really wanna protect that relationship. That brother sister relationship can be so important. And you don't really want one of them to be thinking the repair and the other, a child saying, Victoria Bennion: no, absolutely not. [00:03:00] I think really when you're managing different needs within a household or two autistic children that might have really different profiles, there can be this clash and it can be really tricky. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah, definitely. Like one might really need to make noise or repetition or move more and the other might need quiet and space and predictability and that can be really hard to cater for those needs. Victoria Bennion: Yeah, we've had that. When we were on holiday, we were in a situation and it was quite crowded and one. My children needed to make noise to regulate themselves, and the other needed silence, and then they're rubbing each other up the wrong way and getting very cross. I mean, it's, neither of these needs are wrong, but. It can create friction. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. We have that in the car sometimes as well. Like one will need to make noise. The other really desperately wants some quiet and this really boring journey and I just wanna zone out. So it is at that point we building breaks. Let's have a stop here. And I run around lots and lots of breaks on long trips, drips. Yeah. [00:04:00] So with parenting, you're not just supporting the siblings individually, you're also supporting the relationship between them. Victoria Bennion: Yeah, that's important, and I think it's about explaining the behaviors in a way that builds empathy between them, helping them understand each other's nervous systems and what each need. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. And I think, that can be received and it just depends how they are at the time, can't it? Sometimes they can be understanding and sometimes they just don't really care. Absolutely. We do our best. Victoria Bennion: I've certainly noticed the dynamic shifted as one of my children became a teenager. When they were younger, It was much easier, but I think maybe becoming older and then wanting more responsibility, that might have changed it a bit and it widened that gap. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. Another thing that is quite important to talk about is the invisible child dynamic. Victoria Bennion: Yes. The child who isn't in crisis, the one that's seeming to be able to cope, the one who gets described as the easy one. I mean, I have one of those once upon a time. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah, I think it changes depending on [00:05:00] what phases everybody's in. Doesn't it? Victoria Bennion: Well, for sure in our household it's definitely like a Seesaw one is okay and it's not. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. But I think children can learn really quickly not to add to the stress at home. You know, be quiet, Don. Disrupt the balance. And so they might downplay their own needs. Victoria Bennion: Yeah. It can look positive on the surface. They can look mature, responsible, understanding, but underneath there can be needs that aren't being voiced. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah, so it is definitely worth...

    13 min
  3. PDA Parenting

    21 APR

    PDA Parenting

    In this week's episode of The Autism Mums Podcast we're returning to the subject of PDA, or Pathological Demand Avoidance. PDA is a profile of autism where the standout feature is demand avoidance - and the behaviours that come with it are often misunderstood, dismissed as naughtiness or stubbornness. We're drawing on guidance from the PDA Society alongside our own lived experience to help you understand what's really going on, and what actually helps. Key TakeawaysPDA is an autism profile where everyday demands can trigger intense anxiety and a need for control.Responses commonly look like fight, flight, freeze, or fawn.Many children with PDA have a spiky profile - real strengths in some areas and significant challenges in others. Appearing articulate or socially capable can mask what's really going on inside.Some common approaches make things worse - strict routines, reward charts, behaviour systems, and countdowns can all increase anxiety and erode trust. It varies so much between children.Think of boundaries with an elastic band around them: knowing what really matters and letting the rest go.Language matters. Swapping direct demands for gentle suggestions, indirect phrasing, and offering real choices can make a significant difference.Responding with compassion, curiosity, and calm - even when you're screaming inside - is what keeps things from escalating.The PDA Society frames this as a human rights issue, grounded in dignity, freedom, and choice — and that perspective can help justify approaches that might feel counterintuitive to others.School settings often struggle with PDA because surface compliance hides deep need. Good assessment and clear educational planning really matter. Mentioned in This EpisodePDA Society - https://www.pdasociety.org.uk PDA Society Support and Training - https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/support-and-training/ Connect with The Autism MumsWebsite – https://theautismmums.com/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theautismmums Follow us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@theautismmums Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theautismmums Transcript57 - Parenting PDA [00:00:00] Victoria Bennion: In today's episode, we're returning to a subject that we've covered before PDA, but this time, , we wanna go a little bit more deeper into it, is it something that comes up on a regular basis? And particularly as we were talking about the transitions that the children are going through as they grow up, and how you then handle that with a PDA child. Natalie Tealdi: PDA, which is pathological demand avoidance and the behaviors that come with it are often misunderstood. We've both learned so much more since the episode we did on this before, and we want to share that experience with you. Victoria Bennion: Yeah, we're gonna make sure that we draw on guidance from the PDA society, and we'll combine that with our own lived experience. Talking about common traits. What happens when every day demands trigger intense anxiety, how a rights-based approach changes our responses and where you can go to for support. Natalie Tealdi: The PDA Society describes PDA as a profile of autism, where the standout feature is demand [00:01:00] avoidance. So people struggle with everyday demands, even ones they want or need to do. Victoria Bennion: Yeah, it's often mistaken for naughtiness or being really stubborn. So without the right understanding and support, PDA can really have a massive effect on daily life. Natalie Tealdi: The key point is this demand avoidance is usually driven by anxiety and a need for control. I think that's been a really important one for me to understand. I try to come at it as a point of view of. My child's anxious and they need support rather than them just being Defiant. Victoria Bennion: Again, I know we say this a lot, but it's can't rather than won't, but it's just the way those behaviors come out that I think to someone who doesn't know what's going on, it can look like your child's being really, really naughty. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. Victoria Bennion: I know that we have to be really careful about the language that. We use so that it doesn't come across as a demand, because , if it sounds like a demand and it can feel threatening to the [00:02:00] child and then their anxiety that they feel spikes into panic. So yeah. The PDA Society outlines four common responses. Fight, flight, freeze, and fawn. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. So fight can look like oppositional or aggressive behavior. Flights may be leaving, hiding, running away. I know some children climb trees to get away, to somewhere that's nice and quiet and away from Victoria Bennion: sound like you have experience of this. Natalie Tealdi: And freeze can be zoning out or becoming non-verbal. And fawn is people pleasing or over agreeing to avoid conflict. Victoria Bennion: Well that's interesting. Natalie Tealdi: Mm. Victoria Bennion: So one of my children certainly freezes. So it's the zoning out and becoming non-verbal. That's what I would see a lot. And I didn't have a good understanding of what PDA was for a while. I saw it as the fight that you would see. So it took me a little longer to realize that's what was going on. Natalie Tealdi: I think between us all four of those things are kind of covered by our kids. Victoria Bennion: [00:03:00] Yeah. Yeah. I think we can, we can cover those. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. Victoria Bennion: For sure. One of the things that we have to be careful about is for example, saying you need to go and have a shower now. That is just gonna be a flat out No. So I've learned over time that it's better to say. I think it would be a good idea to have a shower today. When would suit you? When do you think? Then even if we agree a time that would be forgotten. So I would then likely put a reminder on so it's not me then pressuring it's two o'clock, you said you'd have a shower at two o'clock. I get Alexa to do it. Natalie Tealdi: Right. Victoria Bennion: That seems to work better for us, but a teacher at my son's first school actually used some of those techniques with him , it was in a report that was done where someone was observing that she actually worked those into her, language. It said in the report that he was wearing gloves but had been given a laptop. So as she walked away, she said gloves off rather than, you must take [00:04:00] your gloves off. It was things like that Natalie Tealdi: like just a little suggestion, but also not even using the, the eye contact or anything. Victoria Bennion: That's what was picked up on I think it was quite skillfully done, and that's what's needed, but I've only really become aware of it in the last few months of how much. More I need to be using the techniques that would work for PDA rather than autism. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. I think it's something we've talked about as well is as the children are getting older and you want to encourage a bit of independence in some areas, but also is trying to find that right balance, isn't it, by gently encouraging, but not pushing and making them stressed. Victoria Bennion: Yeah, definitely. , Natalie Tealdi: PDA goes beyond just demand avoidance. Victoria Bennion: Yeah, Many people with PDA have what's known as a spiky profile, so they have real strengths in some areas and big challenges in others. For example, a child could be really articulate but completely unable to answer a direct question. When [00:05:00] stressed the words. Just go. I mean, that's definitely one of my children. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. And that masking can be exhausting. Surface behavior can make it look as though someone is coping, but that coping uses so much energy that it needs to break down later. Victoria Bennion: Yeah. I was recently actually in a meeting about one of my children and this came up and I was really surprised that. They obviously cover it so well that nobody sees those struggles. It's pretty much as we've just described, because they're articulate. No one's seeing like the intense emotions that are going on inside because they're managing that superficial social interaction. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. So is it then like coming out? Victoria Bennion: Yeah. What I then see is refusal. And just an inability to cope and exhaustion. There are some approaches that are definitely going to be worse if a child has PDA. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. So like strict routines, behavior charts. Did

    14 min
  4. Encore: Challenging Behaviours, A Late Autism Diagnosis and Motherness with Julie Green

    14 APR

    Encore: Challenging Behaviours, A Late Autism Diagnosis and Motherness with Julie Green

    In this 'in case you missed it' episode Victoria and Natalie chat with Julie Green, author of Motherness, to explore the realities of parenting through autism both as a mum to an autistic son and as a woman who discovered her own autism later in life. BiographyJulie M. Green is a Canadian writer whose work has been featured in the Washington Post, HuffPost, The Globe and Mail, Today’s Parent, and Chatelaine. She has appeared on CTV, BBC Radio, SiriusXM, and CBC Radio. She writes The Autistic Mom on Substack. For more information, visit JulieMGreen.ca. Key TakeawaysAutism in girls and women can look very different from the traditional stereotypes. Julie explains that while boys can be identified through visible traits like lining up toys or having clear special interests, girls may channel their autistic traits into more socially acceptable interestsMany girls mask their differences by copying peersThe importance of seeing challenging behaviour as communication, not defiance.How self-compassion and reframing past experiences can heal years of misunderstanding and self-blameThe need for schools and systems to replace punishment with understanding and co-regulation. Mentioned in This EpisodeMotherness: A Memoir of Generational Autism, Parenthood, and Radical Acceptance The Autistic Mom Substack The Explosive Child: A New Approach for Understanding and Parenting Easily Frustrated, Chronically Inflexible by Ross W Green National Autistic Society Connect with Julie GreenWebsite: juliemgreen.ca Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliem.green Substack: https://theautisticmom.substack.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-m-green-34bb1845/ Connect with The Autism MumsWebsite – https://theautismmums.com/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theautismmums Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theautismmums Follow us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@theautismmums

    24 min
  5. Travelling with Autistic Children

    7 APR

    Travelling with Autistic Children

    In this week's episode of The Autism Mums Podcast we're talking about travelling with autistic children. Whether it's a one night stay, a weekend with grandparents, or a long holiday. Trips that other families might find routine can involve a huge amount of planning, uncertainty, and sensory challenges - different beds and pillows, unfamiliar food, noisy or crowded spaces, and even hidden safety hazards in accommodation. We're sharing our experiences - what helped, what didn't, and our suggestions of what might help you too. Key TakeawaysSmall preparations can help. Consider doing short practice stays before a long trip and build up time away gradually if that feels manageable for your family.Bring familiar comforts: favourite pillows, blankets, trusted foods, and familiar toiletries (toothpaste, shampoo) can reduce sensory upset and make sleep and routines easier.Pack a comfort/essentials bag: include fidget toys, calming smells, noise-reducing items, a spare set of safe foods, charging cables and any sensory supports you rely on.Make plans but stay flexible: a loose “what if” plan for meltdowns, exits or separation can help you respond quickly, but be ready to adjust if things change.Think about personal space: shared rooms or cabins can reduce opportunities to retreat. Consider quieter accommodation options, balconies or separate rooms where possible.Check provider policies in advance. Ask hotels, cruise lines or attractions about quieter rooms, room layouts, food policies and any autism-friendly services they offer.Use airport and venue support. Request assistance like fast-track check-in, quiet lounges or sensory rooms where available to reduce waiting and crowd stress.Balance siblings’ needs. Plan some separate activities or downtime so children with different needs can recharge without upsetting each other.Learn from each trip. Make brief notes about what worked and what didn’t so your next trip can be easier to plan.Be kind to yourselves! Not every holiday will go perfectly. Celebrate small wins and prioritise calm and safety over trying to “do it all.” Connect with The Autism MumsWebsite – https://theautismmums.com/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theautismmums Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theautismmums

    24 min
  6. Autistic Burnout in Children

    31 MAR

    Autistic Burnout in Children

    In this week's episode of The Autism Mums Podcast we’re talking about autistic burnout. We share our personal experiences of supporting our children through burnout, from shutdowns and sensory overwhelm to emotional exhaustion and withdrawal. We also open up about how life events (including unexpected changes and disruptions to routine) can tip the balance and lead to burnout. We explore what autistic burnout can look like in children, what can cause it, and most importantly what can help. Key TakeawaysHow autistic burnout can present Increased meltdowns, shutdowns, or physical complaints can be signs your child is overwhelmed and exhaustedSensory sensitivities can intensify during burnout, making everyday things feel unbearableChanges to routine, environment, or support systems can trigger or worsen burnoutBalancing energy-draining and energy-giving activities can support recoveryGentle, low-pressure outings (like time in nature) can help rebuild energy over timeReducing demands and allowing flexibility can support your child’s nervous systemBurnout is usually temporary, and with the right support, children can recover and feel like themselves again Mentioned in This EpisodeUnderstanding Autistic Burnout Autistic burnout: When navigating a neurotypical world becomes too much Connect with The Autism MumsWebsite – https://theautismmums.com/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theautismmums Follow us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@theautismmums Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theautismmums

    17 min
  7. Why Friendships Change When You’re Raising an Autistic Child

    17 MAR

    Why Friendships Change When You’re Raising an Autistic Child

    In this week's episode of The Autism Mums Podcast Victoria and Natalie talk about how relationships can shift when your family begins navigating autism, even before a diagnosis is confirmed. As priorities change and the reality of advocating for your child sets in, friendships can evolve, strengthen, or sometimes drift apart. Key TakeawaysRaising an autistic child can reshape your priorities and change the person you become.How advocacy for your child can challenge social expectations and sometimes make others uncomfortable.Friendships may evolve as your life begins to revolve around meeting your child’s needs.Connecting with other parents of neurodivergent children can create powerful understanding and support.Surrounding yourself with compassionate, supportive people can make the journey feel less isolating. Connect with The Autism MumsWebsite – https://theautismmums.com/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theautismmums Follow us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@theautismmums Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theautismmums TranscriptVictoria Bennion: [00:00:00] In today's episode, we're talking about something that doesn't always get discussed openly, but that many parents on the autism journey experience, and that's how friendships can change. When you're raising an autistic child or autistic children, your life can begin to look very different from the one that you imagined or the one that you used to have. Your priorities shift, your time becomes limited, and you often find yourself advocating for your child in ways you never expected. All of that can have an impact on the relationships around you. Some friendships grow stronger, some drift apart, and sometimes you find new connections with people who truly understand your journey. In this episode, we are reflecting honestly on our own experiences, the changes we've noticed in ourselves, the challenges that can arise with longstanding friendships and the new supportive communities we've discovered along the way . if you've ever felt like your world and your relationships have changed we hope this conversation helps you feel a little less alone. It's [00:01:00] interesting, something I've noticed how friendships shift when I was going to say after the diagnosis of autism, but in my life I can go back to the playground when my son was at first school and he was really struggling to go in in the mornings and me being in the playground outside late trying to persuade him to go in and realizing that I wasn't alone and that there were other parents in the same position and it was really lovely from that point of view. As I know we've talked on the podcast before about how you make new relationships, make new friends, but I think it's also important to talk about what happens with existing friendships and situations. It's something that I've been thinking about quite a lot recently. I think that it's a common struggle because your life goes in a very different direction and certainly I find my priorities changed and I wouldn't have had the understanding that I do [00:02:00] now, and it could just cause me to reflect really. Our journey has now been about three years. In that three years, I would say that I'm quite a different person. Than who I was before. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah, definitely. I think it makes you a lot more resilient. I certainly fight harder. I used to find it hard to speak up in meetings and things like that, but when you're put in the position of you need to get your child the support they need, then you're gonna do whatever it takes. And you're armed with more knowledge. So I didn't know anything about autism before. This was even raised as a possibility. So, you know, you go on this journey, don't you, of gaining all this knowledge, speaking to other people that are going through this similar things and your life kind of becomes consumed by it for a time. Victoria Bennion: Yeah, that's really true. And there's a point, and I remember the point. I was driving in the car back from school and I was at this crossroads mentally, with what direction did I [00:03:00] go in and I really didn't feel like I wanted to fight. I really didn't feel like I had the strength to fight the local authority. And parts of me was thinking, I, may just deregister him, I'm just gonna deregister him, keep him at home. At that point, we didn't have a diagnosis, but autism had been mentioned. But I didn't feel like it was, the right thing to do for this child. What he needed was actually the appropriate support, the appropriate setting. Before I knew it, I had fallen into the fight, the EHCP journey, the pathway for diagnosis, the fighting for, at that time, a reduced timetable, all the things that go with it. And I feel like for me, over that time, I, like you say, I've, certainly changed I'm a much more compassionate person. Because like you said, you learn these things. You go on the courses, like the Early Birds course, you read the books you [00:04:00] gain this. Understanding , you can't then not be changed by that and by the experiences of your child. Natalie Tealdi: I think also, like if you see parents with children who seem to be behaving badly you see it in a different way when you understand that there could be something else going on there. Victoria Bennion: Yeah, absolutely. , What did dad say? We were zealots. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. Victoria Bennion: When we were joining in the protest so I guess something in us has changed in that fighting for what our children need, and not just what our children need, but what all children need and all children deserve. And then I became really grateful when I went to the support groups and parents further along in the journey, took the time to support me, to advise me on the next steps when there was no map and they were my map suggesting what to do next, and I just felt that it was really important to then give back to parents not as far in the journey as we were, who were [00:05:00] at that point where they're navigating it. And I hadn't reflected on how that might be for people who've known you a long time. Natalie Tealdi: Yeah. Victoria Bennion: I'd seen it certainly from the point of view of we would be invited to parties and then we'd go, and then my child. wouldn't join in and when, really, really struggling, couldn't even enter the room. And then you are that parent and not everybody knows how to respond to you or might not have the sympathy as to why you are late. Don't see all the steps that needed to be taken before you could even get that child out the door in the first place. . And as another parent, said to me at a party once, , I don't know why you bring your child to the parties, they obviously don't want to be here. I also had that about school. It was, meant well from the member of staff at school, but she said. They really don't want to be here, do they? And I remember saying at the time, it's not that straightforward. [00:06:00] They do, but then they can't cope. And then that not being able to cope causes their self-loathing, the disappointment, the frustration that push and pull between want and can't. Natalie Tealdi: And it's the comparison with the other children who they can see that are coping and then thinking, well, why? Why are they coping? I can't. And then that makes them feel worse, doesn't it? Victoria Bennion: And I do think that's where a diagnosis can come in. Going off on a bit of a tangent here, because for one of my children, I know that was so important because. They wondered why they couldn't cope when their peers could cope, and the diagnosis helped explain that, and it took away that constant questioning. Parents also can take really different routes with their children. And when you decide to say, no, I'm not gonna send. My child in, what I've noticed is that's really uncomfortable for people as well who don't take that view. And I, I feel that that has caused some difficult [00:07:00] conversations because not only are you doing this for your child, but you're saying. I not going to school as an option. Natalie Tealdi: Exactly. You're challenging the, the norms, aren't you? Society, Victoria Bennion: Totally. You're challenging the norms. And whilst I only ever thought about how that was affecting us and was very focused on what I was trying to achieve to get my child's needs met so they weren't damaged. You don't realize that actually you can be really getting other people's backs up with showing their children. School's optional and they're saying to their parents, oh, so and so doesn't go. Or, I think even worse with, we've been really, really lucky to get these specialist places at schools for our children, and I realize now reflecting, I've...

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Welcome to The Autism Mums Podcast — a supportive space for parents and carers navigating life with autistic children. We’re your hosts, Victoria and Natalie, two sisters raising autistic children. We know the joy, the overwhelm and the thousand tiny moments no one else quite gets. That’s why we created this podcast - to offer a safe space, a sense of community, and some gentle encouragement along the way. In each episode, we’ll bring you honest conversations, shared strength, and expert insights to support your journey. Whether you're celebrating a win, managing a meltdown, or just trying to get through the day, you’ll find real talk and real understanding here. You can expect mum to mum chats, practical tips, mini solo moments and conversations with experts. Whether you’re new to this journey or deep in the day-to-day, we see you and we’re walking this path with you.

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