Black Belts and Boardrooms

Renard Henry and Amir Khawaja

Black Belts and Boardrooms is dedicated to empowering executives and leaders by blending the discipline, strategy, and resilience of martial arts with the dynamic world of corporate leadership. Through insightful conversations and expert guest appearances, we explore how the principles of martial arts can enhance leadership, foster innovation, and build high-performing teams in the business world. Our mission is to inspire a mindset of continuous improvement, adaptability, and growth, both in the dojo and the boardroom.

  1. 3 days ago

    S2.EP69 - Running a Lemonade Stand at Scale w/ Patrick Bentley, Global Lead at Google

    AI can speed up work—but it can also remove the “reps” that build great leaders, engineers, and judgment. In this episode of Black Belts and Boardrooms, hosts Amir Khawaja and Renard Henry talk with Patrick Bentley about how to use AI without losing the human expertise behind the work. Patrick shares why learning to sew became an unexpected lesson in design, STEM, patience, and problem-solving. He connects that hands-on experience to AI and argues that the process of working through difficult tasks helps people develop the skills they’ll need to create and evaluate what AI produces. The conversation explores the “doorman fallacy”—the danger of cutting visible costs while overlooking the less obvious value people provide. Patrick also discusses vibe coding, the changing role of engineers, and why companies need to preserve the experience and institutional knowledge that help teams solve problems when things go wrong. Drawing on his work at AWS and Google, Patrick reflects on the challenges of teaching rapidly changing AI technologies, the importance of validating AI-generated work with human expertise, and why leaders should focus on customer value—not efficiency metrics alone. The discussion also asks bigger questions about organizational design, incentives, and the future of work. In this episode: How sewing can build creative and technical problem-solving skills When AI is a helpful learning tool—and when it becomes a crutch Why leaders should protect opportunities for people to build expertise How AI is changing engineering work from writing code to designing systems Why human judgment and validation still matter What organizations might need to rethink as AI transforms work Patrick Bentley is the Global Lead of Specialized Training at Google and writes Worth Automating, a newsletter about AI use cases, signal versus noise, and the behavioral side of technology.

  2. 12 Oct

    S2.EP68 - Understanding Urgent vs Important w/ Jeff Stovall, CIO at the City of Dallas

    What does it take to lead technology for a major city when every decision is public, essential services must stay online, and AI is changing the rules? Jeff Stovall, CIO of the City of Dallas, shares what happens behind the scenes to keep a city running—and why leading in public service means balancing innovation, transparency, and risk. Hosts Amir Khawaja and Renard Henry talk with Jeff about moving from Charlotte to Dallas, adapting his leadership to a new organization, and why the same playbook doesn’t work everywhere. Jeff explains how a municipal CIO supports dozens of departments, from public safety to city services, and how technology helps deliver outcomes for residents. In this episode, you’ll hear about: How leadership changes across organizations and sectors Why public-sector success is measured by civic outcomes, not profit The technology and cybersecurity work that supports 911, first responders, and city services How Dallas approaches AI’s potential—and the risks of autonomous attacks Why transparency, public trust, and technology choices are increasingly connected Jeff’s advice for leaders: understand the organization’s biggest problems and focus on where you can have the greatest impact The difference between what’s urgent and what’s important Jeff also shares how he thinks about technology budgets, aging systems, accessibility, and responsible AI—including why he wouldn’t let AI decide how to respond to a life-threatening emergency. If you’re interested in leadership, cybersecurity, AI, or how technology supports local government, this conversation offers a revealing look at the people and decisions working behind the scenes to serve a city. About Jeff Stovall: Jeff is the CIO of the City of Dallas and the first CIO of the City of Charlotte. His career spans engineering, private-sector IT, and public service.

  3. 5 Oct

    S2.EP67 - Let's Help People Be Better With Data w/Pedro Arellano, CEO at Wallabi

    In this episode of Black Belts and Boardrooms, hosts Amir Khawaja and Renard Henry talk with Pedro Arellano, CEO of Wallaby, about what it really takes to make AI useful, trustworthy, and valuable. Drawing on nearly 30 years in data, analytics, and enterprise technology—including leadership roles at MicroStrategy, Tableau, Salesforce, and Google—Pedro explains why AI initiatives should start with a strong data foundation, not just a new model. He shares practical examples, including how AI-supported work could help reduce a complex quoting process from four or five days to under a minute, and why a traditional SQL solution can sometimes be a better fit than machine learning. In this conversation, you’ll hear about: Why data readiness is the foundation of successful AI adoption How to think about AI’s return on investment The difference between using AI to improve efficiency and using it to create new growth How to build sensible governance without stopping experimentation Why AI should augment people rather than replace human judgment The importance of critical thinking and a human review step Pedro also discusses how organizations can help employees experiment safely, where AI should—and shouldn’t—interact with customers, and why people and culture are often the hardest parts of adopting new technology. If you’re a leader figuring out how to bring AI into your organization responsibly and effectively, this episode offers a grounded perspective on where to begin.

  4. 28 Sept

    S2.EP66 - Think Like Operator, Not A Technologists w/ Tim Youngblood, CSO at Onyx Security

    Timothy Youngblood shares how he became the first CISO at Dell and Kimberly-Clark, helped transform security programs at major global companies, and later moved into AI strategy and angel investing. He explains how to lead through compliance failures, align executives, manage risk, and build functions that do not yet exist. The conversation also explores how HBCU experiences shaped Tim’s persistence, how working in McDonald’s restaurants changed his approach to cybersecurity, and how leaders can transition from operational roles to strategic decision-making. Tim also reveals his framework for evaluating startups: people, problem, progress, and price. What does it take to walk into a compliance failure, build a security function from the ground up, and become the first CISO at multiple Fortune 100 companies? In this episode of Black Belts and Boardrooms, Amir Khawaja and Renard Henry sit down with Timothy Youngblood for a candid conversation about leadership, cybersecurity, risk management, AI, and investing. Tim shares how he helped Dell respond to a major IT controls crisis during the early days of Sarbanes-Oxley, built risk management functions, and created security programs at companies including Dell, Kimberly-Clark, McDonald’s, and T-Mobile. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to lead when the function, role, or organizational structure does not yet exist How Tim helped turn Dell’s failed IT controls into a global operating model Why the “meeting before the meeting” is essential for managing executive risk discussions How The Six Thinking Hats can help leaders separate facts, emotions, risks, and opportunities What Tim learned by working directly in McDonald’s restaurants How to secure complex global environments with millions of users and constantly changing systems Why cybersecurity leaders need to understand how the business actually makes money How to transition from operational leadership into strategy and product thinking How AI agents create new security and cost-management challenges Tim’s four-part framework for evaluating startups: people, problem, progress, and price Why aspiring angel investors need to build relationships and enter the right communities Tim also discusses the importance of representation, persistence, HBCU experiences, mentorship, and learning directly from the people who use the systems leaders are responsible for protecting. Whether you work in cybersecurity, technology, risk, operations, entrepreneurship, or investing, this episode offers a practical look at how to build influence, solve complex problems, and create meaningful change. Watch the full conversation and subscribe to Black Belts and Boardrooms for more leadership stories from people who have earned their stripes through discipline, hard work, and commitment to never quitting.

  5. 21 Sept

    S2.EP65 - The 12,000-Horsepower Truth About Top Fuel Racing w/ Nancy Matter, NHRA Funny Car Driver

    Nancy Matter is building a 12,000-horsepower Top Fuel funny car, running a business, and turning every setback into fuel. If you want to understand what real grit looks like under pressure, this conversation is it. Amir Khwaja and Renard Henry catch up with the returning friend of the podcast to hear how far her racing program has come since April. Nancy shares what it takes to prepare a brand-new Top Fuel machine from the ground up, why every millimeter matters in a car that can run over 300 miles per hour, and how she is balancing sponsorships, parts, safety systems, and race-day logistics while still leading with purpose. You’ll hear Nancy break down: The jump from her nostalgia funny car program to the far more extreme Top Fuel setup Why a good crew is everything, from clutch work to fire suppression to extraction planning How she is using branded shirts, sponsor relationships, and community partnerships to keep the car moving forward Why she created Racers Igniting Hope, repurposing used spark plugs into fundraising items that have helped veterans and families in crisis What makes drag racing uniquely accessible, and why in-person racing changes everything Renard and Amir also dig into leadership, loyalty, women in motorsports, and the mindset required to keep pushing when the money, the parts, and the pressure all stack up at once. Nancy’s perspective is equal parts practical, inspiring, and relentlessly forward-moving. This episode is packed with motorsports insight, entrepreneurial hustle, and a reminder that the people who say “I can’t” are usually the ones who have not met Nancy Matter yet. Perfect for racing fans, builders, founders, and anyone who needs a shot of fearless momentum.

  6. 14 Sept

    S2.EP64 - Building a Business on the Back of a Napkin w/ Chris Berry, CEO at Echelle Resources

    Most companies treat quality like a checkbox. Chris Berry treats it like the business model—and that mindset has powered everything from automotive validation software to a wearable that can alert loved ones before a health issue turns serious. Amir Khawaja and co-host Renard Henry sit down with Chris Berry, founder and CEO of Echelle Resources, for a conversation that moves from Air Force boot camp to Android development, from a napkin sketch in an Alabama microbrewery to building products for regulated industries that cannot afford to get it wrong. If you care about leadership, resilience, entrepreneurship, AI governance, or what it really takes to solve hard problems in the real world, this episode belongs on your list. In this episode, you’ll discover: Why Echelle means “climbing the ladder” in French, and how Chris used that idea to build his own path to the C-suite How a military mindset shaped his approach to documentation, repeatable processes, and hiring people who are coachable Why his teams start young developers on unit tests before feature work—and how that builds stronger engineers The back-of-the-napkin origin story behind eShell, and how one late-night idea became a real business How CareWatch was born from a deeply personal healthcare experience and evolved into a wearable that tracks vital signs and flags anomalies Why Chris believes AI is a tool, not a replacement Why AI governance will matter even more in healthcare, automotive, finance, and other regulated industries What the future may hold for autonomous vehicles, drone delivery, data ownership, and FinOps Why organizations must balance innovation and speed with discipline, quality, and human judgment Chris also shares candid insights about failure, resilience, entrepreneurship, the transition from military service to civilian life, and why the best opportunities often come when preparation meets opportunity. Chris Berry is the founder and CEO of Echelle Resources, a Dublin, Ohio-based

  7. 7 Sept

    S2.EP63 - You're Always Being Interviewed w/ Amy Sulgrove, Founder & CEO at Talent Executives

    Most candidates are judged on the wrong things, and most hiring managers are missing the signals that actually predict success. Talent recruiter Amy Sulgrove pulls back the curtain on executive search and shows how to spot real leadership, not just polished resumes. Joined by co-hosts Amir Khawaja and Renard Henry, Amy breaks down how top recruiters think behind the scenes - from the intake brief that reveals what a company really needs, to the metrics that make a resume stand out, to the networking habits that create warm introductions long before you need them. You'll discover why titles can be misleading, why cover letters are losing their power, and why a candidate's LinkedIn profile should be built for search, not just appearance. Amy also explains how her team uses the Hogan assessment, why they sometimes challenge a client’s assumptions, and how 90 days of post-placement executive coaching helps new hires actually succeed after the offer is signed. She also shares the hard-earned lessons that shaped Talent Executives Group, including why cheap searches often cost more in the long run, why ghosting candidates damages reputation on both sides, and why recruiting is still, at its core, a people business. If you’re job hunting, hiring, or trying to understand what makes leaders truly stand out, this conversation is packed with practical, immediately useful advice. Perfect for executives, job seekers, HR leaders, and anyone who wants a smarter view of how great hires are really made.

  8. 31 Aug

    S2.EP62 - Build Without Burnout w/ Adnan Khawaja, Founder & CEO of Sky Vista Consulting

    Most entrepreneurs fail because they try to do everything alone, too early, and without a system. Adnan Khawaja built multiple businesses by doing the opposite - leading teams, creating processes, and staying in his lane long enough to turn side hustles into real companies. On this episode of Black Belts and Boardrooms, Amir Khawaja and co-host Renard Henry sit down with Amir’s brother, Adnan Khawaja, for a candid conversation about what it really takes to survive entrepreneurship over decades. Adnan shares how cricket shaped the way he leads, why open-door culture beats ego-driven management, and how he went from learning code on Craigslist to running a portfolio of businesses that includes Sky Vista 360, Altivist Group, and more. You’ll discover: Why “working on the business” matters more than doing everything yourself The exact process mistake that cost him team members and slowed growth How he used side work, late nights, and a nest egg to leave his day job safely Why income-producing activities, not busywork, drive real momentum How travel, sports, and even video games help him avoid burnout and stay sharp Adnan also breaks down the role of leadership culture in retention, why remote work works best for many of his teams, and how he evaluates whether a new business idea is worth the risk. He gets practical about scaling, hiring, delegation, and the difference between a clever idea and a business that can actually last. If you’re building a company, thinking about leaving your corporate job, or trying to turn ambition into something sustainable, this conversation gives you the mindset and the systems to do it without burning out. Essential listening for founders, operators, and anyone ready to build something bigger than themselves. Find Adnan Khawaja at: ak@skyvistaconsulting.com

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Black Belts and Boardrooms is dedicated to empowering executives and leaders by blending the discipline, strategy, and resilience of martial arts with the dynamic world of corporate leadership. Through insightful conversations and expert guest appearances, we explore how the principles of martial arts can enhance leadership, foster innovation, and build high-performing teams in the business world. Our mission is to inspire a mindset of continuous improvement, adaptability, and growth, both in the dojo and the boardroom.