Serenity Rising: Healing with Cancer

Bron Watson, the Serenity Project

What does it mean to heal when a cure isn't guaranteed? Serenity Rising is the podcast for people living with cancer, chronic illness, and those walking alongside someone they love. Created in the third space between science and soul, evidence and experience. Hosted by Bron Watson, a registered nurse, educator, and two-time cancer survivor living with incurable Multiple Myeloma, each episode blends research-backed insight with honest, lived wisdom. No toxic positivity. No hustle. Just real conversation about the human experience of navigating illness with courage, clarity, and compassion. From expert interviews to fireside Q&As, Serenity Rising explores the emotional, psychological, and deeply personal side of living with cancer. The parts your medical team rarely has time to address. Because healing isn't about reaching a finish line. It's about finding peace in the journey itself. Where moments make memories, and memories are how we make every day count. Brought to you by the team at The Serenity Project Learn more at http://www.serenityproject.com.au/

  1. 4 days ago

    The Conversation No Parent Wants to Have

    How do you tell your kids you have cancer, and how do you keep telling them the truth as they grow, without asking them to carry that truth for you?  In this solo episode, Bron speaks directly to parents navigating cancer with kids in the home. Drawing on her own experience raising five boys through two very different diagnoses, one curable, one not, alongside Cancer Council guidance and current research on family emotional health, Bron shares the practical and emotional tools that changed how she shows up for her children, and for herself.  SHOW NOTES  In this solo episode of Serenity Rising, Bron turns to one of the most tender and least talked about parts of a cancer diagnosis: how to actually tell your kids, and how to keep telling them the truth as it changes.  As a mother of five boys and wife of 29 years to Paul, Bron has faced two very different cancer journeys, a curable breast cancer diagnosis in 2017 and an incurable, chronic diagnosis of multiple myeloma in 2023. The first time, she could offer her boys an end point. The second time, there was not one. Bron shares what changed in how she spoke to her children once the conversation stopped being a single moment and became an ongoing relationship with the truth.  Drawing on Cancer Council Australia's age by age guidance, Bron walks through how children, from toddlers through to teenagers, process a parent's diagnosis differently, and what that means for the words we choose and the routines we protect.  This episode also introduces the image that has reshaped how Bron parents through illness, the lighthouse. Bron shares how paediatrician Dr Kenneth Ginsburg's concept of lighthouse parenting gave her language for something she was already living, and how she has built her own meaning into it, that the lighthouse only shines if the parent tending it is steady first.  Bron reflects honestly on the pattern she now recognises from her first diagnosis, running after her children before caring for herself, and the turning point that taught her self care is not indulgence. Borrowing addiction therapist Mandy Saligari's phrase, it is healthy selfish.  Finally, this episode explores how to stay true to your own feelings in front of your children without asking them to carry those feelings for you, drawing on the Drama Triangle, first described by psychiatrist Stephen Karpman, and psychiatrist Murray Bowen's concept of differentiation of self.  In this episode, Bron explores:  How children understand a cancer diagnosis differently at each age and stage  Whether a curable or incurable diagnosis changes what you tell your kids, and why the honest answer is more nuanced than yes or no  The lighthouse image, and the difference between Dr Kenneth Ginsburg's version and Bron's own  Why self care during illness is not selfish, it is the foundation the whole family stands on  The Drama Triangle, and how oversharing or under sharing feelings can pull children into roles that are not theirs to carry  How to be honest with your children about your feelings without handing those feelings to them  Practical, same day tools for talking to kids about cancer at every age  This is not an episode about getting it perfect. It's an episode about becoming steady enough that your children always know where to find you.  Your healing matters every day.   Connect With The Serenity Project  Website: https://serenityproject.com.au Instagram: https://instagram.com/bron_watson Facebook: https://facebook.com/bronwatsonme LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bronwatson  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson Have a question or feedback? You can leave a message here: https://fanlist.com/serenityproject

    The Conversation No Parent Wants to Have
  2. 1 Sept

    You Are Worth It: Four Words That Changed Everything with Bryan Blackmon

    Bryan Blackmon has a tattoo on the back of his neck that he got in Maui the day he learned his aunt had been diagnosed with breast cancer, a permanent reminder that she was not walking through it alone. It is one of the most quietly powerful things anyone has brought to Serenity Rising. But as Bron says at the top of this episode, it is not the whole story. Bryan is the founder of Crab Crew Life, a high accountability transformational platform he built after rebuilding his own life from nothing: addiction, homelessness, and years of severe adversity. He started drinking and using in ninth grade, moved to California chasing a dream, and ended up living in his car and in tents across Los Angeles, stuck in fight-or-flight mode for years. Nine hundred and thirty-six days ago, brushing his teeth one morning, the chaos in his head went completely silent, and four words broke through: you are worth it. In this conversation, Bryan and Bron talk about what it means to protect your peace like currency, why gratitude has to happen before your feet hit the floor, and Elaine, the elderly landlord who took a chance on a homeless stranger and changed the course of his life. Bryan also unpacks the framework behind Crab Crew Life, built letter by letter around clean, resilient, adaptable, and belief, and why he believes dismantling survival mode starts with focusing on the next play, not the whole season. For anyone living through cancer, whether it is their own diagnosis or a loved one's, or through any other kind of adversity, this is a reminder that healing is a process, not a cure, and that the small daily disciplines are what make the big things possible. In This Episode The tattoo Bryan got in Maui the morning he learned his aunt had breast cancer Starting to drink and use in ninth grade, inside a loving family that couldn't stop it Life on the streets of Los Angeles: tents, his car, and years stuck in fight or flight The morning at 936 days sober when four words broke through the silence: you are worth it The fork in the road he saw before getting sober: an overdose or a long prison sentence Meeting Elaine, the landlord who saw past the smell of whiskey and let him in anyway The predawn phone call, and the words welcome home on her front porch Why Bryan now treats peace like currency, and refuses to let anyone else spend it The gratitude ritual that starts before his feet hit the floor, and the journal that ends his night How a TikTok joke about a virtual crab gift became Crab Crew Life, a global accountability movement The oxygen mask principle: why you put it on yourself first, every time What serenity means to Bryan, and why peace took him decades to understand Your healing matters every day. Connect With Bryan Blackmon Website: https://crabcrewlife.com  Connect With The Serenity Project  Website: https://serenityproject.com.au Instagram: https://instagram.com/bron_watson Facebook: https://facebook.com/bronwatsonme LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bronwatson  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson Have a question or feedback? You can leave a message here: https://fanlist.com/serenityproject

    You Are Worth It: Four Words That Changed Everything with Bryan Blackmon
  3. 25 Aug

    You Are Not Your Diagnosis: Dr. Ellyn Hilliard-McLeod on Attitudinal Healing, Forgiveness and Wholeness

    What if cancer is not the enemy, but the teacher? What if the body is already whole, already complete, and it is the obstacles we place in our own path - the unforgiveness, the grief, the toxic patterns, the habits born of lovelessness that create the conditions for illness? Dr. Ellyn Hilliard-McLeod holds a PhD in holistic nutrition and has spent decades working within dividuals facing life-threatening illness through her practice, Sedona Solutions. Her entry into this work was deeply personal, she watched her father navigate prostate cancer through the Western medical system alone, and saw what holistic support could have done for him. Her the work she wished had existed for her family. In this conversation with Bron, Ellyn shares the three principles that anchor everything she does - cancer is a teacher, you are not your diagnosis, and we can remove the blocks to your wholeness and walks us through the Attitudinal Healing framework that forms the heart of her free community support groups. She also shares a story that will stay with you: a woman whose recurring cancer stopped returning after she reconciled with her estranged son. Her new book, It Takes More Than Carrot Juice: The Missing Ingredients to Total Healing, is available now. In This Episode: How Ellyn came to this work - watching her father navigate prostate cancer through the Western system alone, and seeing what holistic nutrition and emotional healing did for her mother and sister The accidental beginning: walking into a cancer support group of 90 people at a hospital and doing a free 12-week program when no one else showed up Cancer is a teacher: the loud knock at the door, preceded by small whispers we often don't hear until we have to You are already whole - the obstacles we place in our own path (unforgiveness, toxic relationships, physical habits) are what block our natural healing state The 12 Principles of Attitudinal Healing, developed by Dr. Jerry Jampolsky and the first three that matter most: the essence of our being is love, health is inner peace, and giving and receiving are the same The six-step process for letting go of fear and returning to peace What Ellyn's support groups actually look like, including the opening question everynew member is asked: 'What is one thing you love about yourself?' The story of the woman whose recurring intestinal cancer stopped returning after Easter and what forgiveness can do that surgery cannot always achieve The seven characteristics of cancer patients most likely to develop the disease and why caregivers are at the top of the list '89% of everything people worry about never happens' and why the only real controlis in the present moment The living plan: not an end-of-life plan, but a list of everything you want to do while you are alive The support groups - held at United Methodist Church in Sedona, two Sundays per month at 5pm Pacific, open via Zoom to anyone around the world Her new book: It Takes More Than Carrot Juice, 20 patient stories of waking up emotionally and spiritually through cancer, half of whom did not survive physically but all of whom were transformed   Connect With Dr. Ellyn Website & Book: https://sedonasolution.com Book on Amazon: It Takes More Than Carrot Juice: The Missing Ingredients to Total Healing - search on Amazon or Ingram Sparks Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ellynh/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ellynhilliard/    Connect With The Serenity Project  Website: https://serenityproject.com.au Instagram: https://instagram.com/bron_watson Facebook: https://facebook.com/bronwatsonme LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bronwatson  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson Have a question or feedback? You can leave a message here: https://fanlist.com/serenityproject

    You Are Not Your Diagnosis: Dr. Ellyn Hilliard-McLeod on Attitudinal Healing, Forgiveness and Wholeness
  4. 18 Aug

    The Storm Will Pass: Bill Derrick on Business, Cancer, and Never Quitting

    Bill Derrick has navigated three storms. Not setbacks. Not challenges. Storms. A family construction business that survived the Great Recession after five brutal years, including the day his father died twelve hours before the final loan was closed, and his brotherand he went to the signing anyway. Then an incurable blood cancer: multiple myeloma, diagnosed on Thanksgiving 2013, treated with radiation, six months of chemotherapy, and a stem cell transplant. And then, on top of all of that, prostate cancer. In this conversation with Bron, in a first for Serenity Rising, two multiple myeloma patients in an honest and heartfelt conversation, Bill shares the three things he wants anyone in the middle of a storm to hear, a reframe for statistics and prognoses that Bron called the biggest takeawayshe had heard in a very long time, and the leadership lessons that cancer forced him to learn. He is, in his own words, a walking talking miracle. And he has the ten-year stem cellanniversary to prove it. In This Episode: The three things Bill wants anyone in a storm to hear: the storm will end, don't quit, keepan attitude of gratitude The banker friend who said 'just quit', and the moment Bill realised quitting was nevergoing to be an option How five years of navigating the Great Recession became the preparation he didn'tknow he needed for the fight of his life The Thanksgiving phone call: diagnosed with multiple myeloma in 2013, and thereaction that surprised even his doctor 'I was being prepared', how the recession taught him he was not in control, so that when cancer arrived, he already knew what to do with that The bell curve insight: given a seven year average life expectancy, Bill looked at the tail on the other side, and said, that's where I'm going Ten years since his stem cell transplant, when the average duration was fifty four months The day his father died twelve hours before the final business loan closed, and why he and his brother went to the signing anyway Leadership lessons from cancer: you don't have to have all the answers, trust your people, become a teacher not just a delegator Prostate cancer, taking it 'a little too lightly' after everything he had already beenthrough, and what changed The drive to radiation appointments, and what it means to have someone simply say 'I'm here' 'I'm a walking talking miracle', and why the science of multiple myeloma is different today than when he was diagnosed Make every day count my friends.   Connect With Bill Book: Restored by the Storm, Navigating Through Life's Unexpected Challenges, available wherever books are sold Website: https://billderrick.com   Connect With The Serenity Project  Website: https://serenityproject.com.au Instagram: https://instagram.com/bron_watson Facebook: https://facebook.com/bronwatsonme LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bronwatson  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson Have a question or feedback? You can leave a message here: https://fanlist.com/serenityproject

    The Storm Will Pass: Bill Derrick on Business, Cancer, and Never Quitting
  5. 11 Aug

    You Do Not Have to Have This Figured Out

    In this solo episode of Serenity Rising, Bron steps back into the early weeks following her own second cancer diagnosis and shares what she would tell herself now, three years on. This is not a highlight reel of resilience. It is an honest, practical letter to the version of Bron sitting in a doctor's office, and to anyone listening today who is sitting in their own version of that room. In this episode, Bron explores: The nervous system's response to shock, and why what you are feeling is protection, not weakness The liminal space between an abnormal result and the start of treatment, and why the waiting is its own kind of hard The fishbowl metaphor, and why stirring the water only makes the fear muddier Sleep disruption and decision fatigue in the early weeks, and small, workable ways through both A equals A, a simple tool for separating what actually happened from the story the mind builds around it The permission slip every newly diagnosed person deserves to be handed The difference between healing and curing, and why healing is available to everyone, regardless of prognosis This episode draws directly from Bron's free ebook, When Everything Changed: Finding Calm in the First Days After Diagnosis, translating its frameworks into a spoken, fireside conversation. Wherever you are in your own story today, in the waiting, the stirring, or the not knowing, this episode is for you. Make every day count, my friends.   Connect With The Serenity Project  Website: https://serenityproject.com.au Instagram: https://instagram.com/bron_watson Facebook: https://facebook.com/bronwatsonme LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bronwatson  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson Have a question or feedback? You can leave a message here: https://fanlist.com/serenityproject

    You Do Not Have to Have This Figured Out
  6. 5 Aug

    The Trusted Adult Your Child Needs Right Now with Russell Van Brocklen

    When cancer enters a family, most parents brace for the medical fight. What they donot see coming is that their child wants to help, and has no idea how. In this guest interview episode of Serenity Rising, Bron sits down with Russell Van Brocklen, known as The Dyslexic Professor, a New York State Senate funded dyslexia researcher and founder of Dyslexia Classes. Russell shares the exact process he uses with children whose parent or family member is facing cancer, from finding the right trusted adult to narrowing a child's tangle of feelings down to one word and a handful of concrete things they can actually do. SHOW NOTES In this guest interview episode of Serenity Rising, Bron is joined by Russell Van Brocklen, known to many as The Dyslexic Professor. Russell is a New York State Senate funded dyslexia researcher and the founder of Dyslexia Classes. Severely dyslexic himself, he was told as a child he would never read at grade level. He went on to teach himself to read within a month through the Socratic method of law school, and later built a method that has moved struggling students from middle school writing level to average graduate student level within a single school year, with every one of those students going on to graduate college. This conversation began because of a student Russell calls Jennifer, a name changed at her family's request to protect her identity. Jennifer was a dyslexic child already working hard to keep up at school when a family member was diagnosed with cancer, not once, but twice. What Russell gave her was not sympathy. It was a method, a daily anchor, and a way to rebuild a sense of agency in a life that had lost its predictability. Russell walks Bron through exactly what he does when a child's parent or family member is diagnosed with cancer. For a child who wants to help but is confused about how, Russell finds a trusted adult, often a godparent or someone who knows both parent and child well, and has the child write out everything they might want to do, without worrying about spelling or grammar. That outpouring is then worked through, sometimes with the help of AI, down to a single universal word that captures what the child is trying to do, and from there, to three concrete actions the child can actually take. For a child who has been crushed rather than motivated by their dyslexia, or who cannot yet find the words, Russell moves more slowly and looks for whoever that specific child trusts most, whether that is a minister's wife, a scoutmaster, or last year's teacher, even if that person does not know the family well. Russell also draws a clear line between a cancer diagnosis in remission and one that is terminal, and how the plan for the child changes accordingly. In remission, the focus turns to the future, and to which of two broad pathways a child is heading toward. When a diagnosis is terminal, the work becomes giving the child, and a trusted adult who will carry it forward, a plan and a promise they can hold onto. Bron reflects candidly on her own experience raising five boys through two cancer diagnoses, including only recently learning that her son, now twenty, spent his school days as a boy afraid she would not be there when he came home. It is a reminder of how much children carry silently, and why Russell's approach exists. Russell is preparing a written explainer of the exact process discussed in this episode, to be shared with listeners once available. Asked what word he would use for serenity, Russell answers without hesitation: clarity, on why you are here and what you are going to do with the time you have. This episode is for any parent trying to hold their child's world together while managing their own cancer, or supporting a partner through it, and for anyone who works with children navigating a family health crisis. Your healing matters every day. Connect with Russell Website: https://dyslexiaclasses.com  Download When Your Child Wants To Help: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fXv8jfhE_-oZNWIesLT69fcpyNqojA-m/view?usp=sharing   Connect With The Serenity Project  Website: https://serenityproject.com.au Instagram: https://instagram.com/bron_watson Facebook: https://facebook.com/bronwatsonme LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bronwatson  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson Have a question or feedback? You can leave a message here: https://fanlist.com/serenityproject

    The Trusted Adult Your Child Needs Right Now with Russell Van Brocklen
  7. 28 Jul

    What Grief Builds When You Let It with Justin Anderson

    What do you do with grief that has nowhere else to go?  In this episode of Serenity Rising, Bron sits down with Justin Anderson, known to his community as J. Vaelorin, a network engineer turned dark fantasy world builder. After losing his grandmother to cancer, Justin channelled years of unspoken grief into VaelorinVerse, a fantasy universe where mental health is the magic system. This is a conversation about carrying loss forward instead of leaving it behind, and about what becomes possible when grief is finally witnessed.  SHOW NOTES  In this episode of Serenity Rising, Bron speaks with Justin Anderson, a network engineer from Muncie, Indiana who writes under the name J. Vaelorin. Justin is the founder of Vaelorin Verse, a dark fantasy universe he built from grief that, in his own words, had nowhere else to live.  When Justin's grandmother died of cancer, he insisted on carrying her casket himself and designed her tombstone, writing the inscription Those who are loved will never be forgotten. That line is now tattooed on his arm and sits at the centre of everything he has built since, including an anonymous online memorial wall and a mental health campaign voiced by thirteen different actors giving sound to self doubt.  This conversation moves through the promise Justin made to his grandmother before she died, the choice he made at his lowest point in high school to keep that promise rather than give up on it, and the two doors he now believes lead into grief.   One door is internal, the one where we can say I am grieving, I am sad, I am afraid. The other is external, where grief is processed through what we build, create or do. Justin explains why not everyone, particularly men raised to suppress vulnerability, can walk through the first door straight away, and why that does not mean they are avoiding their grief.  Bron and Justin also talk about anticipatory grief, the grief carried by carers, family members and anyone sitting in a waiting room fearing a loss that has not happened yet.   Justin shares what he wishes someone had told him in that season, and why he built an anonymous memorial wall so people could honour someone they had lost without needing to explain themselves.  Throughout the episode, Bron and Justin return to a theme that runs through Serenity Rising: that gratitude and grief are not opposites. It is possible to be shattered by a loss and, at the same time, grateful for what it built in you.  Your healing matters every day.  In this episode, Bron and Justin explore:  Why Justin designed and wrote his grandmother's tombstone inscription himself  The promise he made to graduate and how it carried him through his darkest year  The two doors of grief, one internal and one external, and why both are valid entry points  Anticipatory grief and what to say to someone already grieving a loss that has not happened yet  The anonymous memorial wall built to hold grief without judgement  How gratitude and grief can coexist without cancelling each other out  Connection as Justin's word for serenity, and what it means for carers and loved ones    Make every day count friends. Connect with Justin Website: https://vaelorinverse.com/  Instagram: @jvaelorin https://www.instagram.com/Jvaelorin  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vaelorinverse/  Substack: https://substack.com/@jvaelorin    Connect With The Serenity Project  Website: https://serenityproject.com.au Instagram: https://instagram.com/bron_watson Facebook: https://facebook.com/bronwatsonme LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bronwatson  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson Have a question or feedback? You can leave a message here: https://fanlist.com/serenityproject

    What Grief Builds When You Let It with Justin Anderson
  8. 21 Jul

    We Are Never Alone: Energy, Grief and Care for the Cancer Journey with Kerri Chinner

    What happens when the woman who held her dying father through his final months becomes the same woman who holds you through two cancer diagnoses? In this deeply personal episode of Serenity Rising, Bron sits down with her dearest friend and soul sister Kerri Chinner, a soul mastery coach, shamanic and energy medicine practitioner, and quantum biofeedback specialist based in Phuket, Thailand. Kerri shares what caring for her father through a terminal cancer diagnosis taught her about consciousness, energy and what it truly means to heal, and how that same wisdom became the foundation for the work she has done with Bron across her multiple myeloma journey. This is a conversation about energy, grief and the phrase that changed everything for Bron: I know I will, I just don't know how. SHOW NOTES We Are Never Alone is a fireside-style conversation between Bron and her longtime friend Kerri Chinner, recorded with the kind of honesty that only exists between two women who have walked through fire together. Kerri's own path into energy work began at her father's bedside, caring for him through a terminal diagnosis and holding a stance that even while he was dying, he would still be living. That experience, along with decades of shamanic training, became the foundation of the quantum frequency and energy work Kerri now practices, and the same work that carried Bron through her stem cell transplant and multiple myeloma diagnosis. In this episode, Bron and Kerri explore: Kerri's journey from caring for her dying father to becoming a shamanic and quantum energy practitioner The energetics of possibility and holding a stand for someone's healed self rather than their diagnosis A equals A, and how much suffering comes from the stories we attach to what actually happens Letting it be versus fixing it, and why presence does more than problem solving The cathedral space that opens up in moments of transition and grief How quantum frequency technology works with the body's own energetic signature Practical, low-cost or no-cost tools for carers and patients, including using nature, a stone in your pocket, or simply naming what you feel Why the words cured and cure have no place in this work, and why healing is available to everyone regardless of prognosis This is where the science and the soul come together, and where two decades of friendship turn into one of the most honest conversations Serenity Rising has shared. Make every day count, friends. Connect with Kerri Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kerrichinner/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KerriChinner1/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/kerrichinner?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=91539fd8-b36c-48fc-8c26-5f07c5e3c85a    Connect With The Serenity Project  Website: https://serenityproject.com.au Instagram: https://instagram.com/bron_watson Facebook: https://facebook.com/bronwatsonme LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bronwatson  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson Have a question or feedback? You can leave a message here: https://fanlist.com/serenityproject

    We Are Never Alone: Energy, Grief and Care for the Cancer Journey with Kerri Chinner

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What does it mean to heal when a cure isn't guaranteed? Serenity Rising is the podcast for people living with cancer, chronic illness, and those walking alongside someone they love. Created in the third space between science and soul, evidence and experience. Hosted by Bron Watson, a registered nurse, educator, and two-time cancer survivor living with incurable Multiple Myeloma, each episode blends research-backed insight with honest, lived wisdom. No toxic positivity. No hustle. Just real conversation about the human experience of navigating illness with courage, clarity, and compassion. From expert interviews to fireside Q&As, Serenity Rising explores the emotional, psychological, and deeply personal side of living with cancer. The parts your medical team rarely has time to address. Because healing isn't about reaching a finish line. It's about finding peace in the journey itself. Where moments make memories, and memories are how we make every day count. Brought to you by the team at The Serenity Project Learn more at http://www.serenityproject.com.au/