The Signal Room | AI in Healthcare: Strategy & Governance

Chris Hutchins | Healthcare AI Executive & Governance Consultant

The Signal Room is a healthcare AI podcast hosted by Chris Hutchins, founder of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants, a healthcare AI consulting practice built for leaders implementing AI with strategy, governance, and ethical leadership. Drawing on real AI consulting work with health systems, the show goes deep on AI strategy for healthcare, ethical governance, data strategy, data readiness, and responsible adoption in real health systems. Each episode brings healthcare executives, clinicians, and technology leaders into candid conversations about the decisions, operating conditions, and accountability behind healthcare AI implementation. Listen at https://signalroompodcast.com. Subscribe to AI Health Pulse for weekly healthcare AI analysis.

  1. 6 hr ago

    Your practice needs a clearer view of its money | Tomer & Erez Lankri

    Send us Fan Mail Erez Lankri, co-founder and CEO, and Tomer Lankri, co-founder and CTO of Lucid Financials, join Chris Hutchins to discuss financial visibility, grounded AI and accountable support for medical practices. The discussion connects delayed books and fragmented information to the decisions practice owners make every day. Tomer and Erez describe tracing an AI answer to its source record and retaining professional responsibility as more financial work is automated. ## Chapters 00:00:00,000 Welcome to The Signal Room 00:00:05,000 Beneath the Signal 00:00:19,083 Meet Tomer and Erez 00:00:55,057 Why medical-practice finances? 00:05:02,137 Four financial blind spots 00:08:11,696 Connect operations to the books 00:11:24,249 A practice-sale warning 00:12:28,879 Regulation and human accountability 00:15:15,065 Rules and AI in the financial workflow 00:17:31,994 Helping the finance team adopt the tools 00:21:42,302 Ground the answer in the record 00:26:25,957 Finding overlooked opportunities 00:31:09,536 People remain accountable 00:32:11,764 Data architecture and adoption 00:33:07,812 Practical next steps 00:34:47,472 Closing ## Guest resources - [Tomer](https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomer-lankri) - [Erez](https://www.linkedin.com/in/lankrierez) - [Guest website](https://www.lucid.now/) Support the show About The Signal Room: The Signal Room is a podcast and communications platform exploring leadership, ethics, and innovation in healthcare and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Christopher Hutchins, Founder and CEO of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants. Leadership, ethics, and innovation, amplified. Website: https://www.hutchinsdatastrategy.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chutchins-healthcare/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisHutchinsAi Book Chris to speak:  https://www.chrisjhutchins.com

  2. 1 day ago

    Who Gets Counted in Health Data? | Lisa Marceau | The Signal Room

    Send us Fan Mail A model can look convincing and still leave people out. Who was included in the research? What never made it into the record? And what happens when AI treats those gaps as a complete picture? Lisa Marceau, founder of Alpha Millennial Health and co-founder of Joyuus, joins Chris Hutchins to discuss the questions behind trustworthy health data. Drawing on her work in clinical research and digital health, Lisa explains why the first decision is what problem to solve, followed by whether the evidence can actually answer it. They discuss women's health research, postpartum support, mental health and social connection, and the role of NIH small business funding in helping an idea become a viable company. Lisa also makes the case for treating AI as infrastructure: define its purpose and test its value before adding it to a product. In this episode: - Who gets represented in clinical and claims data - Why data quality and governance belong at the start - What mothers told Joyuus was missing from postpartum care - How mental, physical, social and real-world health connect - Questions leaders should ask before investing in AI - Lisa's book, Breaking the System ## Chapters 00:00 Welcome and meet Lisa Marceau 01:02 From clinical research to entrepreneurship 03:28 Who is represented in health data? 07:13 The research gaps behind clinical outcomes 09:45 Ask the question before collecting the data 11:30 Data quality, governance and equity 13:49 Geography, culture and access to care 16:29 Women's health across the lifespan 19:29 AI and the problem of outdated evidence 24:09 Joyuus and the postpartum care gap 27:29 Earlier support beyond the clinic 29:41 Mental health as whole-person care 34:43 Social connection and new data 36:34 NIH funding and building a viable company 39:23 When AI starts referring to AI 42:56 Treat AI as infrastructure 46:54 The cost of building without a clear purpose 48:55 Questions leaders should ask before investing 51:27 Breaking the System and connecting with Lisa ## Guest resources Alpha Millennial Health / Lisa Marceau: https://www.alphamhealth.com/about Joyuus: https://www.joyuus.com/ Lisa Marceau on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisamarceau Breaking the System: How Digital Innovators Shape the Future of Health Care: https://www.amazon.com/dp/163489829X NIH SEED / small business funding: https://seed.nih.gov/ Support the show About The Signal Room: The Signal Room is a podcast and communications platform exploring leadership, ethics, and innovation in healthcare and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Christopher Hutchins, Founder and CEO of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants. Leadership, ethics, and innovation, amplified. Website: https://www.hutchinsdatastrategy.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chutchins-healthcare/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisHutchinsAi Book Chris to speak:  https://www.chrisjhutchins.com

  3. 4 days ago

    AI Leadership, Polymathy and Collective Intelligence with Dr. Angela C. Meyers

    Send us Fan Mail What does AI leadership require when the technology is available to everyone? Dr. Angela C. Meyers joins Chris Hutchins to explore the human work of learning, listening and connecting knowledge across an organization. Angela, founder of The Polymathic Method and author of Versatile: Human Intelligence in an Artificial Age, explains polymathy and collective intelligence. Her doctorate is in human and organizational learning. The conversation covers skill decay, cognitive burden, employee participation, premature certainty and the difference between technical expertise and people leadership. Listen for practical questions about change: Are people resisting, or are they overloaded? What does frontline experience reveal? How can leaders learn before a deadline forces a decision? Angela closes by connecting organizational adaptability with the choices people make about their own learning. IN THIS CONVERSATION - Polymathy and learning across disciplines - Using AI to reduce workload and support human capacity - Collective intelligence and the risk of premature certainty - Participation, trust and the people skills of leadership - Connecting knowledge across silos while technology changes CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome and Beneath the Signal 00:19 Meet Dr. Angela C. Meyers 01:19 What polymathy means 03:29 When automation weakens or frees human capacity 06:27 AI should reduce the burden 08:43 Leaders who listen 10:08 Learning through AI and data uncertainty 14:52 Keeping the capacity to learn 21:37 Collective intelligence and decision making 24:21 The warning sign: early certainty 29:15 Bottlenecks, human capacity and creative thinking 38:37 Participation in organizational change 44:13 Expertise and the people skills of leadership 49:54 Premature launches and realistic expectations 53:43 Rebuilding trust 58:49 Connecting knowledge across silos 01:02:48 Resources and closing GUEST & RESOURCES Books: Versatile and In Pursuit of Polymaths: https://www.drangelameyers.com/books The Polymathic Method: https://www.drangelameyers.com/ Knower-Learner Assessment: https://www.drangelameyers.com/knowerlearner Collective Intelligence Labs: https://www.drangelameyers.com/collectiveintelligencelab Versatile Leadership Training: https://www.drangelameyers.com/versatileleadershiptraining Angela on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drangelacmeyers THE SIGNAL ROOM Hosted by Chris Hutchins https://signalroompodcast.com/ Support the show About The Signal Room: The Signal Room is a podcast and communications platform exploring leadership, ethics, and innovation in healthcare and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Christopher Hutchins, Founder and CEO of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants. Leadership, ethics, and innovation, amplified. Website: https://www.hutchinsdatastrategy.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chutchins-healthcare/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisHutchinsAi Book Chris to speak:  https://www.chrisjhutchins.com

  4. 6 days ago

    AI Clinical Trial Screening: Evidence, Recruitment and Workflow with Dr. AJ Blood

    Send us Fan Mail Clinical trial recruitment starts with finding eligible patients, but the work does not end with a match. Cardiologist and AIwithCare co-founder Dr. AJ Blood joins Chris Hutchins to discuss AI-assisted clinical trial screening, the supporting research and the workflow around it. They examine AI chart review, RECTIFIER, studies in NEJM AI and JAMA, access to trials, bias monitoring and implementation across sites. AJ explains why research staff and frontline clinicians need to be involved in design, and why a pilot needs clear measures before it starts. The JAMA study discussed was a single-center heart-failure trial with time to eligibility determination as its primary outcome; enrollment was exploratory. The episode considers what that evidence supports, what still needs validation and how to evaluate useful change without relying on promises. IN THIS CONVERSATION - AI chart review and eligibility screening for clinical trials - What the NEJM AI and JAMA studies measured - Patient access and the difference between screening and enrollment - Bias monitoring and validation across research sites - Workflow adoption, frontline design and measurable AI pilots CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome and episode introduction 00:19 Evidence over promises 00:41 From clinical research to implementation 03:42 Why effective care struggles to reach patients 09:04 AI-assisted chart review 12:28 Who gets access to clinical trials? 16:55 Building and testing the screening tool 23:10 What the evidence shows 27:35 Faster enrollment and shorter timelines 30:51 Monitoring bias across sites 34:57 Workflow determines adoption 42:41 Set clear measures for a pilot 47:25 Design beside the people doing the work 51:46 Connect with AJ GUEST & RESOURCES AIwithCare: https://aiwithcare.com/ AJ Blood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-blood-md-msc-facc-abom-a8654a23/ 2025 JAMA randomized prescreening study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2830514 2024 NEJM AI study: https://ai.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/AIoa2400181 THE SIGNAL ROOM Hosted by Chris Hutchins https://signalroompodcast.com/ Support the show About The Signal Room: The Signal Room is a podcast and communications platform exploring leadership, ethics, and innovation in healthcare and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Christopher Hutchins, Founder and CEO of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants. Leadership, ethics, and innovation, amplified. Website: https://www.hutchinsdatastrategy.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chutchins-healthcare/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisHutchinsAi Book Chris to speak:  https://www.chrisjhutchins.com

  5. 6 days ago

    Liver Cancer Screening and 'We Caught It Too Late' with Dr. Bharat Tewarie

    Send us Fan Mail 'We caught it too late' is the sentence Dr. Bharat Tewarie wants to retire. The Helio Genomics CEO joins Chris Hutchins to discuss liver cancer screening, surveillance and the barriers to earlier detection. Bharat explains the HelioLiver blood test, the CLiMB study and the role of follow-up for people already at increased risk of hepatocellular carcinoma. The discussion moves from test performance to clinical workflow, rural access and the difference between raising awareness and making care easier to reach. The study discussion concerns an at-risk surveillance population. It does not establish a mortality benefit or support screening the general population. Listen for the practical questions clinicians, researchers and health leaders need to ask when considering how earlier detection could fit into care. IN THIS CONVERSATION - Why liver cancer surveillance requires repeated follow-through - What HelioLiver measures and how the workflow is described - What the CLiMB study tested and which population it studied - Rural access and barriers between testing and clinical action - The sentence Bharat wants to retire and his message to founders CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome and episode introduction 00:19 Dr. Bharat Tewarie and the purpose of early detection 01:04 Why liver cancer can develop quietly 03:01 The surveillance gap 07:28 What HelioLiver measures 09:09 The clinical workflow and follow-up 11:24 What the CLiMB study tested 15:14 Who the test is for 17:01 Validation and real-world evidence 21:27 Rural access and the practical barriers 23:37 Awareness, policy and action 30:49 The sentence Bharat wants to retire 32:07 A message for researchers and founders 33:29 Resources and next steps GUEST & RESOURCES Helio Genomics: https://heliogenomics.com/ HelioLiver / CLiMB study: https://heliogenomics.com/providers/climb Patient information: https://heliogenomics.com/for-patients Bharat Tewarie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bharattewarie/ Awareness resolution discussed: introduced text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-119hres1591ih/pdf/BILLS-119hres1591ih.pdf THE SIGNAL ROOM Hosted by Chris Hutchins https://signalroompodcast.com/ Support the show About The Signal Room: The Signal Room is a podcast and communications platform exploring leadership, ethics, and innovation in healthcare and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Christopher Hutchins, Founder and CEO of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants. Leadership, ethics, and innovation, amplified. Website: https://www.hutchinsdatastrategy.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chutchins-healthcare/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisHutchinsAi Book Chris to speak:  https://www.chrisjhutchins.com

  6. 6 days ago

    Local SEO and AI Search for Clinics with Darcy Sullivan

    Send us Fan Mail How can patients find your clinic when their search starts with an AI answer? Darcy Sullivan joins Chris Hutchins to connect local SEO and AI search visibility with the practical work of healthcare marketing. The founder of Propel Marketing & Design and host of the Clinic Marketing Podcast explains why consistent business details, Google Business Profile, useful service pages and patient reviews belong in the same strategy. She also discusses human review of AI-written content, marketing attribution and the questions clinic owners should ask an agency. Listen for a simple starting point for checking visibility, ways to make review requests more useful, and a sharper distinction between traffic and the inquiries your practice wants. The conversation is about making informed marketing decisions as search changes; no placement in an AI answer is guaranteed. IN THIS CONVERSATION - How patient discovery changes when search becomes a conversation - Consistent name, address and phone information across listings - Service pages and reviews that answer specific patient questions - Human oversight of AI-generated marketing content - Analytics, appointment inquiries and decisions about marketing spend CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome and episode introduction 02:39 How patient search is changing 06:08 Trust signals and consistent listings 07:22 What helps a clinic appear in AI search 11:31 Using AI with a human editor 14:41 A practical visibility audit 18:02 Questions to ask a marketing agency 19:12 Analytics and attribution 25:29 What marketing spend is adding 28:17 Improve review requests 32:36 Search as a conversation 34:50 Deciding where to invest time 36:13 Connect with Darcy GUEST & RESOURCES Propel Marketing & Design: https://propelyourcompany.com/ Clinic Marketing Podcast: https://propelyourcompany.com/podcast/ Darcy Sullivan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darcymsullivan Propel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/propel-your-company THE SIGNAL ROOM Hosted by Chris Hutchins https://signalroompodcast.com/ Support the show About The Signal Room: The Signal Room is a podcast and communications platform exploring leadership, ethics, and innovation in healthcare and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Christopher Hutchins, Founder and CEO of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants. Leadership, ethics, and innovation, amplified. Website: https://www.hutchinsdatastrategy.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chutchins-healthcare/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisHutchinsAi Book Chris to speak:  https://www.chrisjhutchins.com

  7. 7 Oct

    The AI Security Gap: What Hospitals Need to Know Now with Vasanth Mudavatu

    Send us Fan Mail AI vendors must prove their system security to hospitals. Learn how to verify data integrity and essential controls today. Many hospital administrators struggle to validate the safety of new software. We examine how to demand clear evidence from vendors regarding what data enters the system and how it is processed. Ensuring healthcare AI security requires more than just a contract; it demands a deep look at the audit trails and technical safeguards in place. By prioritizing AI vendor transparency, organizations can better manage risk and maintain compliance. We also discuss how to document specific changes made by the system and the controls implemented to keep patient records safe. This rigorous approach to hospital data privacy is essential for building long-term trust in new technologies. Integrating these practices into your procurement process ensures that AI governance remains a practical, operational priority rather than a theoretical goal. Subscribe for more insights on responsible AI, and share your biggest security hurdle below. 🎧 Listen on Apple, Spotify and more: https://signalroompodcast.com 📨 The AI Health Pulse newsletter: https://aihealthpulse.beehiiv.com/?modal=signup 📘 Beneath the Signal (my book): https://www.amazon.com/Beneath-Signal-Replace-Leadership-Healthcare/dp/B0GZPNVRCX?maas=maas_adg_6A599874CB2DA12E1ADF3BD5E6DB8463_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas 💼 Hutchins Data Strategy: https://hutchinsdatastrategy.com Support the show About The Signal Room: The Signal Room is a podcast and communications platform exploring leadership, ethics, and innovation in healthcare and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Christopher Hutchins, Founder and CEO of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants. Leadership, ethics, and innovation, amplified. Website: https://www.hutchinsdatastrategy.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chutchins-healthcare/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisHutchinsAi Book Chris to speak:  https://www.chrisjhutchins.com

  8. 30 Sept

    The signal room: AI Agents in Healthcare: Why the Best AI Knows When to Stop | Kaled Alhanafi

    Send us Fan Mail AI agents in healthcare only work if they know when to stop. Basata CEO Kaled Alhanafi explains how his team builds agentic AI for hospital and practice operations, and why trust and governance matter more than the algorithm. Kaled Alhanafi left Lyft and Cruise to build a healthcare company after his family's experiences with the healthcare system. He now leads Basata, a healthcare AI startup whose agents read referrals, call and text patients, and handle scheduling. In this episode of The Signal Room, he explains how they decide what to automate and what a human has to own. In this episode: Why capacity in healthcare is trapped in administrative work, not only in a shortage of doctors How healthcare AI agents handle referrals, patient calls, and scheduling Why "a really good AI is the AI that knows when to stop" Why he says 70% of AI transformation is change management How agentic AI in healthcare earns autonomy one task at a time How to be transparent with patients when they are talking to an AI agent Why point solutions fail and holistic approaches work What hospital administrators should do first when adopting AI Key numbers from the conversation: 10 to 30% of physician effort goes to administrative work About $150 billion a year is wasted on patient no-shows in the US By 2030, about one in five Americans will be over 65 Basata has raised a little under $25 million and recently completed its Series A Chapters: 0:00 Welcome and Beneath the Signal 0:45 Why Kaled left Lyft and Cruise for healthcare 1:34 A personal path into healthcare 3:36 Shadowing practices and the start of Basata 6:16 The healthcare capacity problem 7:19 How Basata's AI agents work 8:52 The AI that knows when to stop 11:16 70% of AI is change management 13:26 Trust as the differentiator 14:14 Scaling at the speed of trust 16:41 The 2030 demand problem 18:36 Why point solutions fail 21:28 AI patient scheduling and no-shows 23:54 Would patients rather talk to a human or an AI agent? 25:15 When an AI agent should reach out, and when it shouldn't 27:54 Earning autonomy task by task 29:45 Regulators and healthcare AI governance 31:47 Why start with back-office operations 35:57 Where hidden capacity lives (the Lyft parallel) 39:00 Advice for hospital administrators 41:50 New roles and shared responsibility About the guest: Kaled Alhanafi is the CEO of Basata, a healthcare AI company. "Basata" comes from the Arabic word for simplicity. He previously worked at Lyft and Cruise. Basata website: https://www.basata.ai/ Kaled on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaled About the host: Chris Hutchins is the author of Beneath the Signal, about the human work behind trusted data and responsible AI in healthcare.  The Signal Room is a podcast for healthcare AI practitioners. Listen on your favorite podcast app: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-signal-room-with-chris-hutchins/id1850988366 | Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3zUsHNLvnGE90gUaNULucZ Full episode page and transcript: https://signalroompodcast.com/episodes/ai-agents-know-when-to-stop #HealthcareAI #AIAgents #SignalRoom Guest: Kaled Alhanafi Company: Basata Website: basata.ai ——— 🎧 Listen on Apple, Spotify and more: https://signalroompodcast.com 📨 The AI Health Pulse newsletter: https://aihealthpulse.beehiiv.com/?modal=signup 📘 Beneath the Signal (my book): https://www.amazon.com/Beneath-Signal-Replace-Leadership-Healthcare/dp/B0GZPNVRCX?maas=maas_adg_6A599874CB2DA12E1ADF3BD5E6DB8463_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas 💼 Hutchins Data Strategy: https://hutchinsdatastrategy.com Support the show About The Signal Room: The Signal Room is a podcast and communications platform exploring leadership, ethics, and innovation in healthcare and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Christopher Hutchins, Founder and CEO of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants. Leadership, ethics, and innovation, amplified. Website: https://www.hutchinsdatastrategy.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chutchins-healthcare/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisHutchinsAi Book Chris to speak:  https://www.chrisjhutchins.com

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The Signal Room is a healthcare AI podcast hosted by Chris Hutchins, founder of Hutchins Data Strategy Consultants, a healthcare AI consulting practice built for leaders implementing AI with strategy, governance, and ethical leadership. Drawing on real AI consulting work with health systems, the show goes deep on AI strategy for healthcare, ethical governance, data strategy, data readiness, and responsible adoption in real health systems. Each episode brings healthcare executives, clinicians, and technology leaders into candid conversations about the decisions, operating conditions, and accountability behind healthcare AI implementation. Listen at https://signalroompodcast.com. Subscribe to AI Health Pulse for weekly healthcare AI analysis.