Operatory Empires

Jackson Scheidhauer

Conversations with business-minded people in the dental space.

  1. 3 days ago

    043: What it Takes to Scale a 120+ Practice Group | Dave Gaspar

    Get Any Dental Contract Reviewed Here! Check Out Smile Partners Here! Dave Gaspar, CEO of Smile Partners, joins the show to break down what really matters when scaling a dental group to 120 plus practices across seven states. He shares how his background in veterinary medicine shaped his view of the business and clinical sides of care, and why he believes dentistry is less complicated than people make it out to be. The conversation focuses on patient communication, reimbursement, leadership, AI, and why strong dentists need both relationship skills and resilience. Key topics In this episode, Dave Gaspar shares how he moved from veterinary medicine into dentistry and what he learned early about balancing operations with clinical care.He explains how scale helps with insurance negotiations, but also why the same friction points still exist whether you're a solo office or a large DSO.Dave says the core drivers of success are simple: enough providers, good patient flow, doing the diagnosed dentistry, and collecting properly for services rendered.We discuss the biggest business levers for dentists, especially patient communication, appointment reminders, insurance clarity, and clean claims processing.Dave argues that dentists should be fairly compensated because they invest years of training, debt, and emotional labor into patient care.He describes Smile Partners as a support organization focused on nonclinical services like revenue cycle, IT, marketing, HR, finance, and payroll so doctors can focus on dentistry.He emphasizes clinical autonomy, including brand agnostic decisions for products like clear aligners and implants, even when a cheaper vendor might improve margins.Dave explains why he does not like forcing doctors to switch products purely for financial reasons, calling that a risk to trust and clinical decision-making.We cover the quota conversation and why he sees the real issue as case acceptance and access, not pressuring dentists to diagnose unnecessary treatment.Dave outlines how Smile Partners supports associate dentists with equity opportunities and career paths that can expand beyond fillings and crowns.He shares the skill framework he uses in hiring and development: IQ, EQ, and AQ, or adversity quotient.We discuss AI, including Overjet and the limits of AI receptionists when empathy and human judgment are needed.Dave closes by stressing that dentistry is still a human-to-human relationship business built on trust, communication, and the ability to handle adversity.Timestamps00:00 - Intro to Dave Gaspar and the DSO versus private practice conversation00:56 - How veterinary medicine led him into dentistry02:24 - Why scale helps with insurance negotiations, but friction remains04:24 - The four simple drivers of practice success07:22 - The biggest business levers: communication, access, and clean claims09:58 - Why dentists deserve fair compensation for the work they do11:26 - What Smile Partners does and how it supports doctors13:34 - Why true clinical autonomy matters in a DSO14:13 - Clear aligners, vendor choice, and protecting doctor judgment18:04 - Why DSOs and private practices both come in many shades19:49 - HR, safety, and systems that support teams21:03 - Production quotas, case acceptance, and the real numbers problem24:34 - Expanding access without overloading clinical teams29:45 - Handling toxic team members with skill, will, and mission fit32:35 - Hiring through IQ, EQ, and AQ35:09 - Preparing for hard days and unexpected adversity38:30 - How partnerships and equity options work43:53 - Why Smile Partners is designed as a career-long partner47:28 - Letting prospective doctors talk to current doctors49:37 - How Smile Partners is using AI with a focus on friction reduction51:46 - Why AI receptionists still struggle with empathy56:26 - AI should automate repetition, not relationships60:57 - Where Smile Partners operates and how to connect

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