The NXL Podcast

NXL

On this podcast you will get the latest in AI technology for Go To Market teams, hearing from leaders and exploring how to use the evolving opportunity for generating Revenue for your business. It is hosted by Shay Khosrowshahi & Lewis Stock. Over the past 5 years they have built a $20 million revenue engine for one the top startups in the UK and most recently used the latest in Revenue tech to launch a business in Japan where in 9 months we won 50 B2B clients and $200k of revenue. Most Recently they have founded NXL an AI Revenue business If you are a Marketing, Sales and RevOps leader or executive this podcast is for you. You can find more information about NXL or get in contact at: www.yournextlevel.io

Episodes

  1. 3 days ago

    #10 We Read 50+ Cold Emails From a CMO’s Inbox. Here’s What We Found: Lauren Berkemeyer, YuLife

    We sit down with Lauren Berkemeyer, CMO at YuLife, to follow the B2B buying journey from the invisible top of the funnel to the close. We read 50+ cold emails and event invites from her inbox to see what erodes trust, what earns it and why sales and marketing now have to own the whole journey together. Asked what she said most in her high school yearbook, Lauren’s quote was just one word: “Why?” It’s a question that still shapes how she approaches customers, marketing and growth. LinkedIn Profiles: Lauren Berkemeyer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenberkemeyer/Lewis Stock: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lewis-stock/00:00 - Intro. Lauren’s 24 years in B2B marketing, from magasines and the Wall Street Journal to scale-ups and YuLife 03:17 - The Invisible Funnel. Why buying is no longer linear and buyers increasingly want to research without talking to sales 05:26 - The New Role of Sales. Educated buyers, stronger preparation, and why a sales call should feel like a concierge experience 09:14 - Inside a CMO’s Inbox. What 50 cold emails reveal about “hope you’re well”, fear tactics, and lazy personalisation 13:29 - Where Marketing Fits. How poor outreach damages the brand and why the linear handoff no longer exists 15:22 - Give Before You Take. How to add value first and why replying fast creates opportunities 18:02 - The Event Invite Problem. Pay-to-play invitations, generic outreach, and how one personal email made a table of senior leaders connect 23:07 - Building Repeatable Events. How YuLife approaches fireside chats and webinars, and what Lauren has learned from Clay 27:10 - Ask for Advice. Why featuring customers and asking for their expertise builds advocates 29:11 - Be Curious. The yearbook quote and why being interested beats being interesting 30:36 - Building on LinkedIn. How Lauren approaches consistency, customer advocacy, and balancing personal and commercial content 39:15 - Reviews and AI Discovery. Why investing early in Trustpilot reviews is now helping drive AI referrals 41:05 - Sales and Marketing at the Close. The squiggly buying journey, shared context, and building buyer confidence 45:07 - The First Three Things a CMO Should Do. Why to hold off on spending, check the unit economics, and learn from lost deals

    #10 We Read 50+ Cold Emails From a CMO’s Inbox. Here’s What We Found: Lauren Berkemeyer, YuLife
  2. 24 Jul

    #9 The Last Moat Is Your Data: Takeshi Aida, Founder & CEO RevComm

    Shay sits down with Takeshi Aida, Founder and CEO of RevComm, the Tokyo-based AI voice intelligence company behind MiiTel, to explore why he believes data is the last real moat in the AI era, and what building a self-coaching sales culture from the ground up can teach any organisation trying to close the gap between its best performers and everyone else. LinkedIn Profiles: Takeshi AidaShay KhosrowshahiLewis StockNXL Company Page 00:00 - Intro. From automotive M&A and government deals at Mitsubishi Corporation across the Middle East, Ukraine and the Caucasus, to the sales productivity problem that wouldn't go away no matter how much training TK threw at it 02:44 - The 20-60-20 Problem. Why coaching, shadowing and playbooks never closed the performance gap and the moment TK realised nobody could actually see what happened on the call 04:59 - Betting on Voice AI. The two-lens framework for choosing what to build, and why "Attention Is All You Need" gave TK the conviction to leave a comfortable executive career in 2017 07:47 - Building Ahead of the Category. Cloud telephony, improving speech recognition, and Japan's labour shortage - and why the hardest early challenge was creating a market category from nothing 09:52 - Is SaaS Dead? TK's four-layer view of the AI stack, and why he believes each company's data - not the application - is the only moat that survives commoditisation 13:05 - KGI vs KPI Data. Why text captures the conclusion but voice captures the process, and why leading indicators will matter more than lagging ones 14:42 - RevComm Eating Its Own Cooking. How MiiTel runs self-coaching and real-time AI assistance inside TK's own sales team 17:51 - Building a Self-Coaching Culture. Why the best MiiTel customers treat the platform as a daily ritual, not a management dashboard 20:07 - Selling in Japan vs the West. Consensus-driven decisions, reading between "we'll consider it" and an outright no, and why a slow start builds the most durable relationships 22:42 - Hiring Hunters, Not Order-Takers. What TK looks for beyond product pitching, and how to spot reps who build their own internal champions 25:29 - What Real Sales Coaching Looks Like. Why most "coaching" is really just pipeline inspection, and what evidence-based coaching actually requires 27:17 - Scaling from 5 Reps to 50. Standardising the interview bar across managers, and the offboarding advice from a US investor that changed how TK protects company culture

    #9 The Last Moat Is Your Data: Takeshi Aida, Founder & CEO RevComm
  3. 1 Jul

    #8 Innovating to ¥6 Trillion Revenue in a Century Old Business: Stephen Barnham, CDIO Dai-Ichi Life

    We sit down with Stephen Barnham, Group Chief Digital and Information Officer at Dai-ichi Life Group, to explore what high performance really looks like inside one of the world's largest life insurers and what 124 years of history teaches you about the speed required to survive the next decade. A quote from Stephen which has inspired a life of world adventures, continuous learning and adventure... "We shall not cease from exploration, And the end of all our exploring, Will be to arrive where we started, And know the place for the first time." T.S. Eliot LinkedIn Profiles: Stephen BarnhamShay KhosrowshahiLewis StockNXL Company Page Stephen sits on the Council for JA Asia Pacific - one of the world’s largest youth-serving NGOs dedicated to preparing young people for employment and entrepreneurship. For more details check out their website. 00:00 - Intro Stephen's journey from computer science to technologist across Japan, China, India, Singapore and the US, and what drew him from investment banking into life insurance 02:46 - About Dai-ichi Life Japan's largest listed life insurer, the road to ¥6 trillion, and why a 124-year-old company thinks of itself as a three-year-old startup 06:48 - What High Performance Looks Like. The Hiroshima sales office and why the best performers build complete financial ecosystems around a single customer relationship 11:49 - Revenue Targets and Startup Mindset. Bold ambition at every stage, what Stephen looks for in early-stage companies, and why missing a target is not the end of the road 16:56 - AI and the Legacy Problem. How AI is making it feasible to modernise decades-old life insurance infrastructure faster than anyone thought possible 21:50 - The Biggest Internal Blocker. Why mindset rather than technology is the hardest thing to change, and the management principle that stops organisations automating what they should have stopped doing entirely 26:16 - What Separates Winning Startups Speed, lack of bureaucracy, and why the best Silicon Valley teams have stopped writing manual code altogether 34:34 - The JA Asia Pacific AI Council Junior Achievement, the digital divide, and why AI risks widening inequality for the next generation if education does not keep pace 37:28 - The Philosophy Degree Returning to university after three decades and why the best leaders study things that have nothing to do with their job 42:34 - Leadership and Closing Reflections. Two ears, one mouth, what Stephen would tell his younger self about runway, and why we should never stop exploring

    #8 Innovating to ¥6 Trillion Revenue
 in a Century Old Business: Stephen Barnham, CDIO Dai-Ichi Life
  4. 23 Apr

    Getting to 50 B2B Clients in Japan from Scratch - Scaling Japan Republished

    This episode is Republished from The Scaling Japan Podcast, hosted by Tyson Batino https://scalingyourcompany.com/the-scaling-japan-podcast/ Most foreign SaaS companies struggle to land even a handful of enterprise clients in Japan. Shay Khosrowshahi helped scale Yulife to 50+ B2B customers in just 18 months. In this episode of the Scaling Japan Podcast, we break down how he did it. Shay is now the Co-Founder of NXL and former Managing Director of Yulife APAC. After a $100M investment, he was sent to Japan to launch and scale the business in one of the most credibility-driven markets in the world. We explore what partnerships really mean in Japan, how to align incentives with distribution partners, and why most founders underestimate the level of commitment required to succeed here. Shay shares tactical insights on discovery calls, partner qualification, internal champions, cultural misalignment and how to create momentum that compounds over time. If you are a SaaS founder, CRO, or GTM leader, this episode offers a practical partnership blueprint grounded in real execution. In This Episode, We Cover: What a partnership actually means in the Japanese marketDistribution partners vs strategic alliancesWhy hunger and ambition matter more than brand sizeThe 70/30 discovery framework for qualifying partnersHow to forecast revenue impact to align incentivesManaging harmony culture while still driving urgencyWhy early wins create long-term momentumWhen to double down or exit a partnershipWhy getting direct customers first gives you leverage Guest Appearance: 🔗 🌐 NXL : www.yournextlevel.io Show Notes : 00:01 Introduction to Shay and his Japan scaling journey 02:09 Defining partnerships in the Japan context 03:11 Types of partnerships that worked 06:39 How to vet partners and why hunger matters 10:47 The 70/30 discovery call framework 17:21 Training partners and building internal champions 29:20 Cultural hurdles and harmony-driven challenges 38:21 Measuring partnership health beyond revenue 45:32 Final advice on commitment in Japan

    Getting to 50 B2B Clients in Japan from Scratch - Scaling Japan Republished

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On this podcast you will get the latest in AI technology for Go To Market teams, hearing from leaders and exploring how to use the evolving opportunity for generating Revenue for your business. It is hosted by Shay Khosrowshahi & Lewis Stock. Over the past 5 years they have built a $20 million revenue engine for one the top startups in the UK and most recently used the latest in Revenue tech to launch a business in Japan where in 9 months we won 50 B2B clients and $200k of revenue. Most Recently they have founded NXL an AI Revenue business If you are a Marketing, Sales and RevOps leader or executive this podcast is for you. You can find more information about NXL or get in contact at: www.yournextlevel.io