Stubby Talks Transformation

Dave Stubberfield

The podcast for people responsible for making change actually happen in organisations and in life. This isn’t about frameworks, buzzwords, or polished case studies. It’s about the messy middle - the reality between deciding to change and getting change to stick. In each episode, Dave Stubberfield sits down with CEOs, founders, operations leaders and transformation experts to have honest, peer-level conversations about what’s really happening inside organisations. You’ll hear the stories that don’t make it into case studies: navigating silos, firefighting vs improvement, culture lagging behind strategy, leadership pressure and the human side of transformation. If you’re leading change and it feels harder than the theory suggests, this podcast is for you.

  1. 7 Oct

    Stubby Talks Transformation | Episode 15: Mike Carlin

    In this episode, Dave Stubberfield speaks with Mike Carlin, founder and CEO of Map Group UK and founder and leader of Latos Data Centres. We discuss how fibre infrastructure and AI computing are connected, why sovereignty and accessibility matter, and what it takes to build new technology businesses at scale.  Mike also shares the hard-won leadership lessons from more than 30 years in business, including hiring, communication, resilience, and staying focused as industries shift. He explains how Map Group evolved from an electrical contractor in 1993 into a business focused on building fibre optic networks and connectivity across the UK. Mike shares the Latos Data Centres vision - 20 AI factories in the UK over the next five years, with each site designed around smaller 15 to 20 megawatt builds rather than massive 500 megawatt data centres. He discusses sovereignty as a core principle, arguing that UK-owned infrastructure matters when most data centres are controlled by overseas companies. Mike discusses how the sites are chosen, including population density, power availability, land size, and the shift toward neural edge centres. He also addresses environmental and power concerns, describing closed-loop cooling, exploration of green power options, and discussions about co-locating AI with power generation. Key takeaways AI infrastructure is also a question of sovereignty.AI doesn’t have to mean one enormous data centre.Proximity matters when delays have consequences.Build credibility before asking others to back the vision.Design for change, not for perfect predictions.Keep the mission and people’s responsibilities clear.Leadership means knowing when to step back.• • Honesty and resilience are practical business strengths.

  2. 22 Jul

    Stubby Talks Transformation | Episode 11: Mike Gillespie

    In this episode of Stubby Talks Transformation, Dave Stubberfield sits down with organisational psychologist Mike Gillespie to explore what real change looks like inside organisations — and inside ourselves. The conversation centres on the idea that transformation begins with perspective: when people can step back, see the bigger picture, and understand the human side of change, they’re far more likely to move from resistance to commitment. Mike explains how organisational psychology applies core psychological principles to the workplace, helping people work better together while also improving business outcomes. He introduces the concept behind his book Distancing, co-authored with Captain David Marquet, which focuses on psychological distancing as a practical tool for better decision-making.  The discussion covers self-distancing, third-person reflection, construal level theory, and why getting out of your own head can lead to clearer thinking, better relationships, and stronger leadership. The episode also digs into change management, with Mike emphasising that top-down change rarely works long term unless leaders first understand employees’ fears, motivations, and perspectives. He shares personal reflections on divorce, self-awareness, parenting, and the hard-earned lessons that came from realising how easily people can fool themselves into thinking they’re doing better than they really are. Throughout the conversation, one message stands out: if you want lasting transformation, slow down, listen deeply, and understand the people involved before trying to move them forward. Key Topics: What organisational psychology is and why it mattersWhy work is a powerful place to create meaningful changeThe difference between helping people one-on-one and helping at scaleThe value of starting from curiosity, not certainty, in your careerThe book Distancing and the idea of psychological distancingUsing third-person language to gain clarity and perspectiveSelf-awareness, ego, and how we rationalise our own behaviourHow perspective shapes transformation at both personal and organisational levelsWhy employees resist change when they don’t feel understoodThe importance of purpose, mission, and values in change leadershipThe importance of slowing down and understanding your people before leading change Key Takeaways: People don’t usually resist change itself — they resist change they don’t understand.Perspective is often the first real step in transformation.Self-awareness is not just a personal skill; it is a leadership tool.Compliance may get short-term results, but commitment creates lasting change.• • The best leaders listen before they act.

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The podcast for people responsible for making change actually happen in organisations and in life. This isn’t about frameworks, buzzwords, or polished case studies. It’s about the messy middle - the reality between deciding to change and getting change to stick. In each episode, Dave Stubberfield sits down with CEOs, founders, operations leaders and transformation experts to have honest, peer-level conversations about what’s really happening inside organisations. You’ll hear the stories that don’t make it into case studies: navigating silos, firefighting vs improvement, culture lagging behind strategy, leadership pressure and the human side of transformation. If you’re leading change and it feels harder than the theory suggests, this podcast is for you.