Inflection Points

SI Partners

Welcome to Inflection Points, hosted by Joe Hine. This podcast is an exploration of those pivotal moments in a company’s, founder’s or leader’s history that resulted in a step change in their growth. An inflection point has been defined as an event “that results in a significant change in the progress of a company, industry, sector, [or individual] …. considered a turning point after which a dramatic change occurred, with either positive or negative results”, “Investopedia”. Some of these events will be gradual and deliberate, others will be fortunate accidents, a dramatic shift created by external factors. We examine these inflection points through the stories of the leaders that experienced them. The goal of this podcast is to understand the drivers of these inflection points, how leaders / CEO’s reacted to them and what they learnt as a result.

  1. 30/06/2024

    Chasing Disruption: Terry Graunke's 40-Year Journey in Management

    Joe speaks with Terry Graunke, Chairman and Founder of Erie Street, about his extensive management and investment career. He has led over 40 businesses: founding, growing, selling and listing them, all within disruptive industries. Terry talks about founding his first business, Omni-graphics, stumbling upon, then harnessing data to disrupt direct marketing, scaling and then selling to Omnicom.  Terry then moved into the operator/investor role within the Hawthorne Group, before starting Lake Capital and ultimately the creation of Erie Street, a business services investment firm focusing on operational orientation and family office money. The podcast delves into Terry's emphasis on human capital, the importance of connections, and the role of curiosity and serendipity in success. Terry also discusses the significance of company values like kindness, curiosity, and courage in guiding daily activities and long-term value creation. Terry discusses his involvement across various industries, including forensic accounting with Huron Consulting Group, web development with Eagle River, and the recent impact of AI on the market. He shares insights on balancing investor partnerships and fostering a patient investor base to focus on sustainable growth rather than short-term sales. Joe and Terry also touch upon the challenges and opportunities in navigating regulatory landscapes, particularly with AI, and the overall evolution of the business landscape. Timestamps 04:52 Terry’s first start-up in direct marketing  06:59 Seeking self-confidence, adaptability, and resourcefulness despite challenges. 13:00 How technology for cruise lines was a catalyst for e-commerce 19:58 The business opportunity Terry saw after Enron brought down Arthur Andersen. 28:00 The evolution of private equity, why Terry founded Erie Street and how it is different 35:04 Underwriting deals, hitting milestones, recapitalizing for growth. 45:12 Investor worries about cybersecurity and future impact.

    46 min
  2. 12/06/2024

    Data & Deals: Successful Private Equity investing in Creative & Technology

    This week Joe Hine speaks with Mark Sargeant from Phoenix Equity Partners. They discuss the constantly evolving world of private equity investment in the creative and digital sectors.  Founded in 2001, Phoenix Equity is a leading mid-market private equity firm with over £1.7bn invested across 60+ deals. They specialise in backing ambitious UK founders and were a pioneer in marketing and digital services with their investments in Karmarama (2011) and later 1000heads (2019). Both companies achieved significant growth and successful exits. Mark Sargeant, a Partner with nearly 20 years at the firm, played a key role in both these stories.  In this episode, Mark demystifies Private Equity explaining how it really works, from raising funds to investing decisions and how the culture of the Private Equity business will define its success.   Mark emphasises what Phoenix looks for in a target business and how it approaches the growing influence of digitisation and data. He addresses the challenges and opportunities in balancing creativity with financial success, particularly the movement towards recurring revenue models that attract private equity interest. Mark insists on the importance of alignment and shared values between private equity investors and business founders, and the steps an entrepreneurs should take to choose a PE partner. He explains the benefits private equity brings to the economy, helping businesses scale and avoiding cultural clashes commonly seen in corporate acquisitions. They also discuss: -  The integration of customer-centric strategies in investment practices - How Private Equity benefits the economy, and society, particularly within the mid-market - The rapid advancement in digitisation and the growing importance of data - The changing dynamics of private equity and the ability for swift investments.  - In an ever turbulent world with high interest rates, what is the future for Private Equity?  Timestamps:  05:36 Valued people, culture, and entrepreneurial opportunities at Phoenix. 10:24 How private equity firms assess founders and businesses. 17:57 Opportunity in merging businesses for customer centricity. 23:57 The digital sector's recurring revenue model promotes stability. 34:13 Assessing fund deployment and investment strategies is crucial. 42:35 Private equity funding drives business consolidation and exits. 47:09 Private equity brings massive benefits to the economy.

    47 min
  3. 28/05/2024

    The Betches Way: Aleen Dreksler on Humour, Authenticity, and Building a Media Business

    Joe speaks with Aleen Dreksler, one of the founders of Betches, a business that started as a college blog in 2011 and has now evolved into a major player in women's media. Aleen reminisces about how they were motivated by comedians like Tina Fey and Amy Poehler to create a fresh comedic voice different from conventional 'cutesy' content, focusing on self-deprecating humour and relatability. The podcast delves into the importance of Betches' strategic use of platforms like Instagram, and partnerships to authentically engage their target audience, spearheading their growth.  Aleen discusses the acquisition journey, how they coped with the many suitors for the business and why they eventually choose LadBible, emphasising the cultural and strategic fit of the merger.  Throughout the conversation, Aleen highlights the importance of having a good team, fostering strong business relationships, expanding into new sectors, and maintaining a brand rooted in humour and authenticity. Joe and Aleen also touch upon the underlying values that contributed to their sustainable growth, such as independence, creativity, and a strong sense of community among the founders. Timestamps 00:00 Brand growth and LadBible partnership 09:22 The beginning of Betches, a college blog started by childhood friends 16:00 Monetising Betches and retaining quality of product 17:37 Starting the Betches instagram account 21:51 The power of partnerships in yielding high engagement and loyalty with their audience 24:15 In 2015, podcasts began to gain popularity, sparking the idea for a new show.

    47 min
  4. 29/04/2024

    From CEO to Chair: The Art of Transition & Effective Leadership

    "...the world needs better leaders. Businesses need better leaders. And making a small contribution to that effort gets me out of bed every day." Joe sat down with Marc Nohr, a serial entrepreneur in the agency world - having sold two agencies and advised on the exit of several others. Marc shares his incredible personal and professional journey, including his commitment to philanthropy inspired by his mother, a Holocaust survivor.   Marc draws connections between the leadership of business versus charity and discusses advancements in technology and global leadership.   His professional history is fascinating. He founded and successfully grew the creative agency Kitcatt Nohr before selling to Publicis. Though it was not all plain sailing, we find out why the deal ended up in the High Court.   Despite the challenges, Marc's passion led him back into the agency world with Fold7, focusing on the growth of its culture, its leaders and its clients. The business ultimately sold to Miroma, after which he successfully transitioned from CEO to Chairman of the advertising agency - a role he now performs across multiple businesses.  In this episode we also discuss:  Why selling your agency is just the beginning Taking a network to court and how he deals with stress Selling to Miroma Group and helping run a global networkThe transition from CEO to Chairman The importance of giving back and what happened when he met David Beckham   Timestamps  00:00 An intro into Marc Nohr and his beginnings.  07:53 Naming Kitcatt Nohr and the importance of agency names 14:46 2008 financial crash led to interest and potential acquisition of Kitcatt Nohr 20:07 Selling to Miroma and running a global agency network 23:58 Learning resilience, business and stress management. 29:23 Marc gives key advice for selling a business effectively. 36:54 Marc's commitment to charity work, mentoring and advocating philanthropy.

    42 min
  5. 16/04/2024

    Navigating the Business of Politics

    In this episode, Founding Partner & Executive Chairman at H/Advisors - Cicero, Iain Anderson shares his journey into the world of politics and business. Inspired to become involved in politics by the 1976 film 'All the President's Men' Iain joined the Conservative party as a young man but rather than looking to Parliament he founded his agency, Cicero and became a renowned political commentator on national and international media including many appearances on Question Time.  We talk about his experiences founding and leading Cicero, a strategic communications agency that advises on strategy, political risk, and public policy, and how he grew the business organically and strategically through M&A. Iain recounts the challenges the agency faced during the 2008 financial crisis and how investment decisions and branching into new sectors like health, infrastructure, and technology helped the company come back around and grow, which eventually led to its acquisition by Havas.  Iain emphasises the importance of political change, economic confidence, and adaptability. He has an infectious enthusiasm for the evolving nature of global politics and we discuss why he has recently stepped across the aisle and is working with Sir Keirr Starmer to promote business as part of the Labour Party. In this episode we also discuss: Weathering the global financial crisis Agency M&A and becoming ready to acquire Selling Cicero to Havas and the global opportunities it presented The fear of being on Question TimeWhat it's like to see your friends get to the top of the political tree Timestamps: 01:28 - 04:24: How the 1976 film 'All the President's Men' film inspired Iain to pursue a career in politics and communications06:08: Taking on investment at the beginning of his journey with Cicero 12:57: Acquisition of Westbourne and key learnings17:47: Selling Cicero to Havas30:55: Joining the Conservative party at 16 and going to his first conference in 1984 39:06: Leaving the Conservatives and joining Labour

    45 min

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Welcome to Inflection Points, hosted by Joe Hine. This podcast is an exploration of those pivotal moments in a company’s, founder’s or leader’s history that resulted in a step change in their growth. An inflection point has been defined as an event “that results in a significant change in the progress of a company, industry, sector, [or individual] …. considered a turning point after which a dramatic change occurred, with either positive or negative results”, “Investopedia”. Some of these events will be gradual and deliberate, others will be fortunate accidents, a dramatic shift created by external factors. We examine these inflection points through the stories of the leaders that experienced them. The goal of this podcast is to understand the drivers of these inflection points, how leaders / CEO’s reacted to them and what they learnt as a result.