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Unlike every other security podcast, we don’t get stuck down in the technical weeds. Our remit is to speak with experts around the globe at the strategic level – how security technology can improve the experience and risk optimisation for every organisation. The Voice of Cyber® - In Partnership with Vanta

  1. 3 days ago

    Episode 374 Deep Dive: Mark Jones | The Department of No Is Over - Why Cyber Has to Lead AI Adoption

    Mark Jones is Co Founder of MosaicalAI and has spent more than 25 years working across cybersecurity, technology risk, governance and resilience in complex environments where decisions need to be defensible and the cost of getting it wrong is high. His work sits at the intersection of security, business leadership and change. He helps organisations understand risk, build capability in their people, create practical operating models, and move with confidence when technology is changing faster than traditional governance can keep up. Today, Mark’s work is focused on AI. At MosaicalAI, he helps Australian organisations rebuild how teams work for the agentic era. His view is that every team runs on three things: people, technology and data, but most teams are still operating on a model built before AI. MosaicalAI maps how a team works today, builds the agentic version beside it, then rebuilds it with them. Mark’s approach is AI native and cybersecurity driven. He does not start with tools or generic productivity use cases. He starts with the team, the workflow, the data, the controls, the risks and the decisions that matter. The goal is practical AI capability that the organisation owns, understands and can govern. Cybersecurity is MosaicalAI’s first proof point because it is where AI adoption gets real quickly. Cyber teams already understand risk, evidence, accountability, control and resilience. When they use AI to improve triage, reporting, exposure management, control mapping, evidence gathering and decision support, they are better placed to guide safe AI adoption across the broader business. Mark believes AI cannot simply be bolted onto an organisation. It needs ownership, guardrails, evidence, accountability, resilience and control from day one. He is a Certified Information Security Manager and Certified Information Systems Security Professional, combining practical executive experience with globally recognised security credentials.

    40 min
  2. From ISACA 2026 North America Conference - KB On The Go | AI Puts Its Hard Hat On: Agents, ROI, and the Governance Reset

    19 Jun

    From ISACA 2026 North America Conference - KB On The Go | AI Puts Its Hard Hat On: Agents, ROI, and the Governance Reset

    KB is on the ground at the ISACA 2026 North American Conference in Las Vegas, this time for the AI conversation that’s reshaping ROI, risk and governance all at once. Sushila Nair, Independent Information Security Consultant, and President of the ISACA Greater Washington D.C. chapter, opens with the AI ROI question everyone keeps circling. She walks through ISACA’s latest AI Pulse research, explains why last year’s AI was your friend and this year’s AI has put its hard hat on, and breaks down the shift from chatbots to agents that’s finally moving the numbers. One of her clients went from 4 agents in proof of concept to 140 in production this year. She also covers the workforce transformation underneath all of it, who’s getting displaced first, and why automation is the real driver of cost savings. Then Mark Thomas, Founder & President of Escoute Consulting and board advisor and ISACA hall of Fame entrant, joins to talk about what all of this means for governance and risk. He walks through ISACA’s new AAIR certification (Advanced AI Risk), why traditional frameworks aren’t outdated but incomplete, and how concepts like drift, calibration and model cards are becoming non-negotiable. His central argument: accountability has to come before architecture, and you can’t certify a moving target with a static framework. More about ISACA’s AAIR Certification here: https://www.isaca.org/credentialing/aair ISACA® 2026 AI Pulse Poll: https://www.isaca.org/resources/ai-pulse-poll

    44 min

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Unlike every other security podcast, we don’t get stuck down in the technical weeds. Our remit is to speak with experts around the globe at the strategic level – how security technology can improve the experience and risk optimisation for every organisation. The Voice of Cyber® - In Partnership with Vanta

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