Rev-n-u Unplugged

James Hounslow from Indigo GTM

🎙️ Rev-n-u Unplugged — Where SaaS revenue leaders tell it like it is. Join James Hounslow, a seasoned recruiter in the revenue leadership space, as they sit down with Chief Revenue Officers, VPs of Sales, and Private Equity Operating Partners to have real, unfiltered conversations about the business of driving growth in SaaS. Each episode, the guest brings the topic, from communication to the board strategies and recruiting to value creation, winning new logos, cutting tech spend, and everything in between. No fluff. No scripts. Just the raw insights, lessons, and stories behind how top operators build and sustain revenue engines that perform. If you’re a sales leader, investor, or anyone obsessed with the craft of revenue, this is your backstage pass to the strategies and mindsets shaping today’s SaaS landscape. Tune in. Get real. Grow revenue. Unplugged.

  1. 6 days ago

    "Advisory, Not Automated: Why Salespeople Still Win Deals" James Westlake

    James Westlake, a CRO with experience in the scale-up startup world, discusses trust, product market fit, and the impact of AI on sales. He emphasizes the importance of building trust, understanding client challenges, and creating a consultative sales process. He also explores the challenges of founder excitement, the need for product market fit, and the transition from founder to CEO. The conversation covers the challenges of transitioning from founder to CEO, the impact of go-to-market motion on leadership roles, the importance of relationship building in hiring, the role of AI in leadership, and the directive vs. transformative leadership styles. Takeaways Trust and differentiation beyond the classic demo modelFounder excitement versus reality and the importance of product market fitThe transition from founder to CEO and the role of AI in sales Founder-CEO transition challengesImpact of go-to-market motion on leadershipImportance of relationship building in hiringRole of AI in leadershipDirective vs. transformative leadership styles Chapters 00:00 Building Trust and Differentiation03:12 The Role of AI in Sales and Product Demos16:34 Founder Excitement, Product Market Fit, and AI Acceleration23:53 Founder-CEO Transition Challenges26:34 Impact of Go-to-Market Motion on Leadership Roles29:09 Importance of Relationship Building in Hiring32:36 Role of AI in Leadership39:02 Directive vs. Transformative Leadership Styles

  2. 2 Jun

    Art vs Science: The New Shape of Revenue Leadership

    The conversation explores the rise of RevOps into the CRO seat, focusing on Ryan Milligan's journey from RevOps leader to CRO and the unique approach to sales leadership. It delves into the evolving role of the CRO, the impact of data literacy, and the importance of quantitative rigor in sales leadership. The conversation covers the topics of interview scorecards, hiring challenges, ideal customer profile, retention, and the role of RevOps leaders in sales leadership. It also delves into the importance of data-driven decision-making and the transition from RevOps to CRO roles. Takeaways RevOps leaders are uniquely positioned to transition into the CRO role due to their focus on orchestration, analytical rigor, and operational efficiency.The CRO role is evolving to prioritize the quality of customers, retention, and expansion over the traditional focus on closing new deals.Data literacy, curiosity, and a quantitative approach are key attributes sought in sales leaders, particularly those transitioning from RevOps to CRO. Interview scorecards and quantitative rigor are essential for improving the hiring process.The focus on ideal customer profile (ICP) and retention is crucial for SaaS businesses to drive success. Chapters 00:00 Hiring Sales Leaders with Data Literacy and Curiosity28:17 Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) and Retention Strategy34:08 Navigating Revenue Targets and Board Communication42:28 RevOps Leaders in Sales Leadership and Forecasting

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🎙️ Rev-n-u Unplugged — Where SaaS revenue leaders tell it like it is. Join James Hounslow, a seasoned recruiter in the revenue leadership space, as they sit down with Chief Revenue Officers, VPs of Sales, and Private Equity Operating Partners to have real, unfiltered conversations about the business of driving growth in SaaS. Each episode, the guest brings the topic, from communication to the board strategies and recruiting to value creation, winning new logos, cutting tech spend, and everything in between. No fluff. No scripts. Just the raw insights, lessons, and stories behind how top operators build and sustain revenue engines that perform. If you’re a sales leader, investor, or anyone obsessed with the craft of revenue, this is your backstage pass to the strategies and mindsets shaping today’s SaaS landscape. Tune in. Get real. Grow revenue. Unplugged.