Speaking with Shadows

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Speaking with Shadows

When you’re wandering about a historic place, what voices do you hear echoing off the walls? Are they the ones you learnt about at school – or do you wonder about the shadowy, quiet voices that may have gone unheard? Speaking with Shadows is the podcast that listens to the people that history forgot. From castles on the south coast to Hadrian’s Wall in the far North, join presenter Josie Long as she travels across the country to seek out six stories from the hidden corners of England’s history. 

  1. 10/05/2023

    Vigilant State – York Cold War Bunker and the Royal Observer Corps

    Josie Long visits York Cold War Bunker, one of over 1,500 bunkers and monitoring posts across the UK that were in operation during the Cold War, and the only example which still exists without alterations today.  But perhaps the most interesting thing about the bunker are the people who worked there. Here, the Royal Observer Corps (ROC), mainly civilian volunteers, were trained to receive, record, and relay vital information on nuclear fallout in the event of a real nuclear attack on Britain.  Josie meets English Heritage curator, Kevin Booth to find out more about the bunker’s history and its role during the Cold War. We hear from Grace Huxford, a senior lecturer in modern history at the University of Bristol, on the history of the Cold War and the social and political context in Britain at the time when the ROC were training in the bunker. Josie also meets Ann Metcalf, a member of the ROC for 27 years who worked at the bunker in York. We hear about her first-hand account of what it was like to train in the bunker, her experience of Cold War Britain, and how it felt to have such a unique and important role, should the very worst have happened. Speaking with Shadows is an English Heritage podcast. You can find out more on these stories by going to http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/speakingwithshadows or head to the English Heritage website to find out how you can visit the York Cold War Bunker. And if you think this story should be heard, share this podcast on your social media with the hashtag #speakingwithshadows. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    35 min
  2. 26/04/2022

    The Polish Special Forces Soldiers of Audley End

    In this episode, Josie Long uncovers a group of daring Polish soldiers and their secret wartime history in Essex. She visits Audley End House, known during the Second World War as Station 43, to find out about the Cichociemni: elite special forces soldiers who volunteered to go above and beyond for their nation and Allied victory. Josie meets Dr Peter Moore, Curator of Collections and Interiors, to find out more about Audley End’s wartime history and the enormously important role the Polish heroes played in winning the war. Denise Hall, a research volunteer, tells Josie about the training and tasks the Poles undertook at Audley End, before author Ian Valentine takes her through the grounds with stories of the highly skilled individuals selected to carry out and undertake training. Josie also meets Anthony Massey and Danusia Kellett, who are both children of Polish special forces soldiers. Danusia relates her father Antoni’s incredible story, from his training at Audley End to his role in the Polish resistance and daring escapes from danger. And Anthony shares his father Lewis’s story as an officer in the Polish Special Operations Executive during the Second World War. Speaking with Shadows is an English Heritage podcast. You can find out more on these stories by going to www.english-heritage.org.uk/speakingwithshadows or head to the English Heritage website to find out how you can visit Audley End House and Gardens. And if you think this story should be heard, share this podcast on your social media with the hashtag #speakingwithshadows. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    43 min
  3. 19/04/2022

    The Patients of Chiswick House Asylum

    If you’ve heard the horror stories of experimental pre-20th-century psychiatry, this episode might surprise you. Josie Long heads to Chiswick House in south-west London to find out about its life as a private asylum for people with mental illnesses in the Victorian and Edwardian eras. Who were the people who needed the asylum’s care, and what insight does its story give us into attitudes to mental health not much more than a century ago? Dr Jeremy Ashbee tells Josie about the Tuke family of psychiatrists and their humane methods, and Rosie May delves into the casebooks of the well-to-do patients, to piece together a few of their stories. Dr Sarah Chaney, an asylums historian and Research Fellow at Queen Mary University of London, explains the different kinds of private and public care available to those experiencing mental health issues in this period. Chiswick House and Gardens Trust still works with local communities to promote wellbeing today, and Josie finds out more about projects in the gardens with Harvinder Kaur Bahra, Community Participation Manager. Then Josie heads to Bethlem Museum of the Mind in Kent to meet Archivist David Luck for insights into the public asylum that gave ‘bedlam’ its meaning. Speaking with Shadows is an English Heritage podcast. You can find out more on these stories by going to www.english-heritage.org.uk/speakingwithshadows or head to the English Heritage website to find out how you can visit Chiswick House and Gardens. And if you think this story should be heard, share this podcast on your social media with the hashtag #speakingwithshadows.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    39 min
  4. 17/12/2019

    Far From Home – The People of Hadrian's Wall

    Set on a spectacular ridgeline in the Cumbrian hills, Birdoswald Roman Fort on Hadrian’s Wall was once a meeting place for communities from across the Roman Empire. Men, women and children travelled from as far afield as Spain and Syria in order to serve at the empire’s north-western frontier. At Birdoswald, inscriptions and symbols reveal that the Dacians, from modern-day Romania, built a community here over many hundreds of years. In this final episode of the series Josie meets Andrew Roberts and Frances McIntosh to learn more about the people who lived at Birdoswald and what the site can tell us about how their identities changed over time. Burial urns displayed in the museum offer an intriguing insight into the lives and deaths of women and children living on the Wall. The Romanian poet Denisa Comănescu reads from her poem ‘A Birdoswald Sequence’ while locals Malcolm Redman and Angela Stephenson tell us about their lives on the Wall today. Visit our episode page to find out more.Speaking with Shadows is brought to you by English Heritage.  Presenter: Josie Long Producer: Katharine Kerr for Fresh Air Contributors: Dr Andrew Roberts, Properties Historian; Dr Frances McIntosh, Collections Curator; Malcolm Redman, Owner of Bush Nook Guesthouse; Denisa Comănescu, Poet; Angela Stephenson, Historic Property Steward at Birdoswald Roman Fort. www.english-heritage.org.uk/speakingwithshadows See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    28 min

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When you’re wandering about a historic place, what voices do you hear echoing off the walls? Are they the ones you learnt about at school – or do you wonder about the shadowy, quiet voices that may have gone unheard? Speaking with Shadows is the podcast that listens to the people that history forgot. From castles on the south coast to Hadrian’s Wall in the far North, join presenter Josie Long as she travels across the country to seek out six stories from the hidden corners of England’s history. 

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