The Dream Boat DRI Centre for Dream Studies

Laura and Dave go head-to-head with an AI trained to interpret dreams. Who (or what) comes up with the most meaningful interpretations? You decide!
Elswhere is a dream journaling app that offers interpretations powered by a GPT (generative pre-trained transformer), otherwise known as a generative AI. Kelly Bulkeley and Sheldon Juncker have been instrumental in creating and training Elsewhere to interpret dreams, and they come aboard the Dream Boat to discuss the intersection of technology and dreaming, specifically the use of AI in dream interpretation.
The guests discuss the accuracy and insights provided by the AI interpretations, which draw on the work of Freud and Jung, among others.
In an extended “Dream of the Week” segment, Sheldon shares a dream for Dave and Laura to explore and interpret, and then the group hears what Elsewhere had to say about it.
What will the influence of AI be on dream interpretation, and are there potential benefits of using AI as a tool for self-reflection and understanding? Hopefully it's collaboration, not competition. 
Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D., is a dream researcher and author with a background in the psychology of religion. He is director of the Sleep and Dream Database (as discussed on episode 2 of this series of the Dream Boat), a Senior Editor of the APA journal Dreaming, and a former President of the International Association for the Study of Dreams. 
Sheldon Juncker, B.Sc. is a software engineer who works in the fields of dream research, data analysis, and artificial intelligence, who in addition to his work with Dr Bulkeley on Elsewhere also helps to maintain the Sleep and Dream Database.


Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! 
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This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.
Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join!
Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!
 
Credits
Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura
Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk 
Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design
 
Music:
Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu 
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Dave and Laura explore techniques and practices to improve sleep and enhance dream recall. The conversation covers sleep tracking devices, the different stages of sleep, the importance of deep sleep, and the role of REM sleep in dreaming. Drawing on personal experiences with sleep as well as their therapy experience, they share tips for improving sleep hygiene, such as maintaining a regular sleep schedule and avoiding screens before bed. They also explore mindfulness practices and the use of dream journals to enhance dream recall.
 
Takeaways
Good sleep health is essential for improving dream recall and overall well-being. Understanding the different stages of sleep, including deep sleep and REM sleep, can help optimize sleep quality. Practicing good sleep hygiene, such as maintaining a regular sleep schedule and avoiding screens before bed, can improve sleep. Mindfulness practices, such as body scans and playing the day's film backwards, can help relax the mind and prepare for sleep. Keeping a dream journal and engaging in techniques to remember dreams can enhance dream recall and facilitate dream exploration. For the dream of the week, Laura reads a dream from a listener named Gordon, who experiences a profound sense of love for his daughter as he realizes he is coming to the end of his life. The dream mitigates the fear of dying through the overwhelming feeling of love. The conversation explores the connection between sleep, dreaming, and death, as well as the fear of death and its impact on sleep. Techniques for addressing death anxiety and finding meaning in life are discussed, emphasizing the importance of connection and love.
 
Mentioned in this episode
Birds sleep with one eye open
Spiders dream!
NHS sleep hygiene advice
Laura’s book – Nine Steps to a Mindful Life (Without Meditating)
Professor Mark Williams - Mindfulness Based Cognitive Therapy
Blue light and sleep
CBT for sleep and insomnia
Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! 
Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast
FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast
Twitter @dreamboatpod
DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact 
This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.
Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join!
Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!
 
Credits
Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura
Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk 
Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design
 
Music:
Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu 
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT
Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE 
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8
 
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"Dreamers, big dreamers in particular really need to step forward today. It's more important than ever, I think, to bring dreaming into the world."
Dave and Laura interview Dr. Kelly Bulkeley about his book, The Spirituality of Dreaming: Unlocking the Wisdom of Our Sleeping Selves. They explore the idea that dreaming is not just about personal insight, but also about spiritual insight for ourselves, our communities, and the world.
Dr. Bulkeley emphasizes the transformative and dynamic nature of dreams and the potential for dreaming to bring about change and growth in our lives.
For the Dream of the Week, Kelly shares a dream that involves flying through a shopping mall with tv character Jeff Winger. The discussion explores the symbolism of Jeff Winger and the themes of growth, narcissism, relating to others and coming down to earth.      

Mentioned in this episode:
Dr Bulkeley’s book: The Spirituality of Dreaming: Unlocking the Wisdom of Our Sleeping Selves The Sleep and Dream Database, with more than 40,000 dreams and tools to explore them: https://bulkeley.org/sleep-dream-database/ More of Dr Bulkeley’s books and publications: https://bulkeley.org/books/ Elsewhere.to, an AI-powered dream interpretation app  
Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! 
Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast
FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast
Twitter @dreamboatpod
DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact 
This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.
Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join!
Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!
 
Credits
Recorded on The Boat Pod by Sophie
Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk 
Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design
 
Music:
Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu 
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT
Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE 
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8
 
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To celebrate World Lucid Dreaming Day (12 April), we’re replaying our interview with Robert Waggoner, a leading expert on lucid dreaming.
One of the world’s top lucid dreamers, Robert Waggoner, joins Dave and Laura for a fascinating journey into the often so-called “rare” dream state of lucid dreaming. But as Robert will show, it’s not that rare for some people, and you can try it too.
   
Author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self and Lucid Dreaming Plain and Simple (with Caroline McCready), Robert shares how he has had over a thousand lucid dreams since he discovered he could do it whilst at high school in the US on reading Carlos Castaneda's books about Don Juan.
We hear what he has learned from his lucid dreams, from tips on becoming lucid in a dream to answers to some of his questions about the nature of consciousness, which he started to explore once he got bored with flying and walking through walls in his dreams. It turns out there’s more to lucid dreaming than manipulating the dream reality, more than wish fulfilment, and certainly more than making yourself more productive. 
We look at the history of research into lucid dreaming. What is lucid dreaming, according to Robert Robert’s own techniques and how to try this out for yourself. Lucid games of flying, walking through walls and having sex. How to stay lucid and not wake up.  The impact of the film Inception on Lucid Dreaming Neuroscience studies on the state Robert’s own principles of Lucid Dreaming and its gateway to the deeper state of amazing spiritual experiences and being connected to a larger awareness. For the Dream of the Week, Robert also shares his lucid dream in which his mother-in-law returns from the land of the dead with an important message for him. 
Mentioned in this episode:
Lucid Advice website (lucid-dreaming-advice.com) Lucid Dreaming Magazine (Luciddreamingmagazine.com)        
Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! 
Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast
FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast
Twitter @dreamboatpod
DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact 
This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.
Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join!
Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!
 
Credits
Recorded on The Boat Pod by Sophie
Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk 
Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design
 
Music:
Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu 
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT
Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE 
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8
 
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In this episode, Laura and Dave answer more of your questions. Questions like, why do certain things enter our dreams but not others? Or, what do shoes symbolise? They also delve into the topics of prophetic and déjà vu dreaming, examining the mysterious nature of these experiences.
We love to hear your questions. They always get us thinking!
Your dreams are fascinating, too! Get in touch and tell us a dream you’d like to share.
 
Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! 
Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast
FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast
Twitter @dreamboatpod
DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact 
This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.
Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join!
Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!
 
Credits
Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura
Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk 
Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design
 
Music:
Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu 
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT
Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE 
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8
 
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Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream 
FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute 

Dream Answers to Dream Questions! A 14-year-old boy who was curious about his dreams asked two questions before going to sleep: “Can you dream in colour or in black and white?” And, “Do you need light to dream?” Laurel and Hardy helped bring answers that night, and those answers were unequivocal, funny, and meaningful, and a few decades later Damien Moore has come on the podcast to talk about that experience and some of his other fascinating dreams.
Those familiar with The Dream Boat Podcast will know that in each series we have a “Dream Lab” episode in which we invite two dreamers to share a dream that we then discuss from different angles to see how it relates to the dreamer’s life and what kind of meaning can be found in it. We always enjoy talking about those dreams, and people seem to enjoy listening to them, so for Series 3, we’re expanding the format. In the last episode we heard about Yas’s recurring dream of losing her children on the train, and its resolution.
This week Damien’s dream sparks a conversation about colour and humour in dreams, lucid dreams (Damien has had many lucid dreams) and the nature of consciousness itself. Laura and Dave explore the images and symbols of Damien’s night-time world using Freudian, Jungian and other psychological and philosophical frameworks.
As ever, whatever ideas and interpretations may be discussed, the dream always belongs to the dreamer, and Damien is a thoughtful and wise guest who has reflected deeply on his dreams.
Your dreams are fascinating, too! Get in touch via the links below and tell us a dream you’d like to share.
 
Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! 
Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast
FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast
Twitter @dreamboatpod
DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact 
This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.
Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join!
Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!
 
Credits
Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura
Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk 
Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design
 
Music:
Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu 
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT
Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE 
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8
 
#dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork
Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream 
FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute