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Join Lee Evans (not that one) as we look at the pioneering people, products, ideas and initiatives building the better world we need right now, before they've made it into the mainstream
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    Re-greening Paris, with Nathalie Baumann

    Re-greening Paris, with Nathalie Baumann

    Re-greening Paris, with Nathalie Baumann
    This weeks guest is Nath Baumann, urban ecologist with the Swiss Green Infrastructure Consultancy & 
    Lecturer at the Zurich School of Applied Science (ZHAW).
    Nath joined me to talk about her more than ten years work in the regreening of Paris and in particular the initiatives under Mayor Anne Hidalgo to widen access to the benefits of nature as part of increasingly urgent efforts to transform the city into a beacon of circular and ecological design. The conversation was framed around La Recyclerie, an urban farm, repair cafe, sharing hub and restaurant but we covered a lot of the great initiatives and developments around Paris - and even touched on the way systems thinking is shaping its relationship with the agricultural areas beyond its periphery.
    LINKS
    Nathalie Baumann: www.greeninfrastructureconsultancy.ch/locations-people/
    ZHAW: https://www.zhaw.ch/en/university/
    La Recyclerie: https://www.larecyclerie.com/
    Reinventer Paris design competition: https://www.designboom.com/tag/reinventer-paris/

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    Kelp Forests & Sea Conservation, with Henri Brocklebank

    Kelp Forests & Sea Conservation, with Henri Brocklebank

    I'm delighted to be joined this week by Henri Brocklebank, Director of Conservation Policy & Evidence at Sussex Wildlife Trust. In an episode recorded in early February 2021, I talked with Henri about kelp as a climax habitat and the new bylaw (just) passed which will restrict trawling off the Sussex coast in the Channel to 4km offshore. 
    We talked about how the bylaw will help restore the 200km2 forest lost to human activity
    - why kelp is such a big deal for not just inshore waters but the local culture and economy and the livelihoods of the fishing fleet
    - How the English channel formed and how its shallowness has influenced its biodiversity - including the mammoth tusks dredged by the trawlers which have done so much damage 
    - offshore wind and how to do marine actively sensitively
    We also talked about how to value nature, and why marine environments have been slower to be included in investable models of habitat restoration like peat, mangrove and trees.

    LINKS
    Nature Table - https://sussexwildlifetrust.org.uk/discover/woods-mill-at-50/nature-table 
    Tiny Recorder: https://www.facebook.com/TinyRecorder/

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    Nature & culture in rapidly densifying Indian cities, with Prof Harini Nagendra

    Nature & culture in rapidly densifying Indian cities, with Prof Harini Nagendra

    Harini Nagendra is Professor of Sustainability at Azim Premji University in Karnataka, India. Her work explores the evolving relationship between people and nature in Indian cities, with publications including Nature in the City, Bengalaru in the Past, Present and Future (2016) and Cities and Canopies: Trees in Indian Cities(2019). We explored the way that ancient and more recent human activity helped shape the region's ecology and in particular the way that Bangalore's development has been informed by the need to manage scarce water resources - but also how the particularities of indigenous culture have lent a deeper everyday connection with and understanding of nature - and what (and how) we can learn from the way these challenges are being met.
    Talking points
    - the role nature in rapidly urbanising countries/densifying cities
    - animism and the spiritual connection with nature
    - how to engage with indigenous approaches to ecology, and how they improve upon colonial attitudes 
    - ecological memory and forgetting in indian cities
    - how resource (water) scarcity and human activity to compensate for it has shaped Karnataka’s ecology and the regions’ priorities for modern GI interventions
    - medicine, food and scent as drivers of our experience of nature in the city
    - why citizen restoration movements rather than municipalities are the key drivers of ecological enhancement 
    - how the pandemic story is unfolding in India, and the implications for social urban development

    LINKS
    Prof Harini Nagendra - @HariniNagendra
    Robin Hobbs - Farseer Trilogy via bookshop.org
    The Nature of Cities

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    Healthy habitats: neuroscience & built environment, with Araceli Camargo

    Healthy habitats: neuroscience & built environment, with Araceli Camargo

    This week’s guest is Araceli Camargo (@aracelicamargo_), cognitive neuroscientist with @TheCentricLab in London. Araceli joined me to talk about the emerging role of neuroscience in explaining how built environments can create pathologies in the people that live in them and what that means for the people affected. We talked about how every planner, architect, consultant and developer working in ways that shape the built environment are also - whether they know it or not - healthcare practitioners, and how this can and will increasingly shape the way we design and build the places that we live. 
    Talking points:

    What exactly is neuroscience, and how does it help us understand how people experience their (built) environment
    What is biological inequality, how has it arisen and what are strategies for tackling it?
    Why health isnt only (or even mainly) the absence of illness
    Why construction phase is as critical as post-occupancy
    Blame and self-esteem: what the pandemic has revealed about the role of authority and infrastructure in health outcomes, and what that suggests about personal responsibility for health outcomes
    Links
    The Centric Lab
    Red Nation podcast and Twitter @The_Red_Nation
    Ibram X Kendi - How to be an Antiracist via bookshop.org



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    Green Infrastructure before and after the pandemic, with Peter Massini

    Green Infrastructure before and after the pandemic, with Peter Massini

    This weeks guest is Peter Massini, green infrastructure policy and practice lead for the Greater London Authority (GLA). We discussed what green infrastructure comprises and why it should be seen as comparable in importance to transport, energy and sewage networks, as well its history in the parks movement and more recently nature conservation (particularly rare species of birds who's adopted habitats in brownfield sites around the city were endangered by urban regneration)
    We also unpacked how its funded and regulated in London and the way that national frameworks might interact (and sometimes conflict) with local initiatives. And of course we spent some time thinking through how what we know about the pandemic so far might indicate some of the opportunities and obstacles we’ll see being thrown up green infrastructure.  
    LINKS
    Future Nature by Bill Adams - shop via bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/books/future-nature-a-vision-for-conservation/9781853839986
    Song of the Dodo by David Quammen - shop via bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/books/the-song-of-the-dodo-island-biogeography-in-an-age-of-extinctions/9780684827124
    @grassroofco - The Grass Roof Company



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    Urban & rural rewilding: nature recovery networks, with Dr Tony Whitbread

    Urban & rural rewilding: nature recovery networks, with Dr Tony Whitbread

    This week's guest is Dr Tony Whitbread, independent ecologist and former Chief Executive of Sussex Wildlife Trust. Tony joined me to talk about rewilding - what wild means in a modern 21st country, and how it relates to other kinds of nature conservation that continue and which have gone before. We explored the various scales at which we can think about rewilding, the difference between applying in urban and non-urban areas, the obstacles we’ll face in linking up the core areas of wild space and bringing them into our cities - and how we can overcome them, both practically and in terms of how to communicate the benefits with the wider population.
    Talking points include:
    -Rethinking value
    -What ragwort can tell us about how to communicate rewilding 
    -How far does a policy like biodiversity net gain get us without enforcement?
    -Nature recovery networks as a framework for thinking about outcomes
    -Regenerative economics as a guide to post-CV recovery
    -What George Monbiot gets wrong about rewilding
    Tony's 3 good things:
    Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari - via bookstore.org
    George Monbiot on Twitter - https://twitter.com/georgemonbiot
    The Mens and Ebernoe Common nature reserves

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