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Trade Legends

Trade Legends is the UK's number one weekly construction podcast, hosted by Alex and Mark Tiff. Every week we sit down with tradespeople from across the industry, carpenters, plumbers, electricians, bricklayers, plasterers, builders, apprentices and more, for honest conversations about life on the tools. No filter, no fluff. Just real stories about skills, money, mental health, apprenticeships, business, and everything else that comes with working in the trades.

  1. 1 day ago

    Most Tradesmen Shouldn't Own a Business - Here's Why | Trade Legends Podcast

    On this episode of the Trade Legends Podcast, we're joined by Mike from Better Happy, an ex-Army Intelligence operative who's taken one of the more unusual routes into the world of trade business coaching. Mike joined the Army after waking up in a Worcester police cell with a hangover and no plan, spent five years in intelligence, including two tours of Afghanistan attached to the Special Boat Service, then left at 25 with money in the bank and no idea how to be happy. What followed was two and a half years living with monks in Thailand and Nepal, a stint on fishing boats in Australia, and a chance encounter with a Dalai Lama book in a Perth train station that completely changed the direction of his life. We take it right back to the start and unpack how a lad who was written off at school ended up building a business around one simple question: what would actually make you happy?We dig into Mike's five years running a CrossFit gym, a business that looked like a success from the outside, growing every year and loved by its members, while behind the scenes he was struggling to pay himself more than minimum wage and slipping into the first real depression of his life. Mike is honest about the assumption that nearly sank him: that passion alone would make the business work, and how being humbled by his own numbers sent him off to learn how high-level entrepreneurs actually think. That journey led to Better Happy, where he now systemises small and medium businesses to run without the owner, and to The Happy Electrician, the community he co-founded with Malcolm Duncan of Super Rod to tackle the thing electricians tell him they struggle with most: the loneliness of running a business on your own.Mike also delivers some home truths that plenty of tradespeople won't want to hear but probably need to, including why a lot of tradies are accidental business owners who might be better off employed, and why the first thing he does with any electrician is compare what they're taking home against what they'd earn working for someone else once you factor in the admin, the leads, the insurance and the company car.

    Most Tradesmen Shouldn't Own a Business - Here's Why | Trade Legends Podcast

  2. 10 Aug

    From Nightclubs to a Showroom: How Dan Built Wellington Flooring | Trade Legends Podcast

    On this episode of the Trade Legends Podcast, we're joined by our first-ever flooring guest, Dan from Wellington Flooring, who's spent 19 years in the trade and built one of the most recognisable flooring brands on social media. Dan fell into flooring by complete accident, turning down a job at Abbey Road Recording Studios at 16 because he didn't fancy the train to London, before a chance meeting with the fitter laying his mum's floor changed everything. We take it right back to the start and unpack how a nightclub worker with no plan became a showroom owner, from years on the tools and price work, to the moment in Covid when a friend showed him around a garden centre, and he realised he was more scared of missing the opportunity than taking it. We dig into the decisions that have shaped the business since: why going appointment-only at the showroom, something Dan was forced into rather than chose, turned out to be one of the best things that's ever happened to the company, cutting staff costs and time-wasters in one move. Dan is honest about the trap of building a brand that looks bigger than the business behind it, why he's his own worst enemy for jumping back on the tools, and how his business partner Nathan keeps him off them. We also get into the reality of the grind: same-day quotes, site visits on the way to the podcast, invoices paid at three in the morning, and why Dan's happy to break himself at 37 for a few more years to get Wellington where it needs to be. Dan also breaks down why image sells as much as skill: the matching vans, the uniforms, the showroom he designed on paper himself, and why customers spending serious money on floors want to see a clean van on the drive. He explains why tradesmen who say they can't afford a videographer are usually pricing their jobs wrong, and why the quote "you lose a job to someone worse than you if they market themselves better" has stuck with him for years.

    From Nightclubs to a Showroom: How Dan Built Wellington Flooring | Trade Legends Podcast

  3. 3 Aug

    The Booking Trap: Why Tradespeople Fail at Scaling | Trade Legends Podcast

    On this episode of the Trade Legends Podcast, we're joined by landscapers Nathan and Joe from Slade Landscapes, a Surrey-based duo who've turned a landscaping business into one of the most-watched trades accounts on social media. Nathan came into the trade the long way round, leaving school to train as a plumber before falling into landscaping and going out on his own at 24, while Joe nearly ended up behind a desk at the Home Office before deciding an office job wasn't for him. We take it right back to the start and unpack how two lads with no real plan built something that's now trebled in size, almost entirely off the back of the content they post.We dig into the business admin nobody teaches you when you start a trade, the VAT registration that catches people out, the self-assessment, the business rates and the quarterly tax that so many new trade businesses never see coming until it's too late. Nathan is honest about the mistake that's caused him the most stress in nine years of running the company, and it isn't the work; it's the schedule: booking too many jobs in, letting the diary run away from him, and pushing customers back until it starts costing him. We get into why he now tells clients they'll wait nine months or take their deposit back, and why making people wait is often the clearest sign your work is good enough.Nathan & Joe also break down the hidden costs of scaling a landscaping business: the labour, the overheads, and the numbers that have to come out of pure profit just to keep the wheels turning, and why staying small and in control has been a deliberate choice rather than a limitation. Nathan and Joe explain how they've kept the work coming through referrals and social media rather than pouring money into advertising, and why, even now, some of their biggest videos are the ones they nearly didn't bother posting.

    The Booking Trap: Why Tradespeople Fail at Scaling | Trade Legends Podcast

  4. 20 Jul

    Why Most Tradesmen Go Broke Hiring Their First Employee | Trade Legends Podcast

    On this episode of the Trade Legends Podcast, carpenter Ben Bailey returns four years after his first appearance, and a lot has changed. When we first had Ben on the show, he'd just started out and was working with clients from Made in Chelsea. Since then, he's gone from cutting MDF under a gazebo on his driveway to running his own dedicated workshop, building bespoke carpentry and fitted furniture for celebrities and professional footballers, all sparked by one Instagram DM he thought was his mates winding him up. We dig into the real cost of hiring your first employee, the van insurance, tool insurance, training and overheads that most tradesmen never factor in until it's too late, and why getting your first hire wrong can seriously damage a small trade business. Ben explains why he turns down enough work to hire four people tomorrow, yet still chooses to stay small, and we debate whether "hire slow, fire fast" is the right approach when your lead times stretch past a year. We also break down the hidden costs of taking on your first unit or workshop, the business rates, electric bills and running costs that land after you've signed the lease, and why those unexpected bills kill so many new trade businesses in their first year. Ben shares exactly how he made the step up without taking a huge risk: renting a single spare workbench from a local firm and working on it until 11 pm after his day job, before finally committing to his own space. Along the way we cover starting a carpentry business during Covid, using social media and Instagram to win work and attract celebrity clients, working with tool brands, staging show homes for developers, quarterly tax and the admin nobody teaches you, and the family side of self-employment, why Ben structures his whole business around the school run, and why he'll never miss a sports day for a job.

    Why Most Tradesmen Go Broke Hiring Their First Employee | Trade Legends Podcast

  5. 29 Jun

    I Hit Rock Bottom Two Years Ago. This is What Saved Me | Trade Legends Podcast

    This week on the Trade Legends Podcast, landscaper and content creator Tom joins us for his long-awaited return, and he doesn't hold back. It's been nearly three years since Tom last sat in the studio, and in that time his life has changed beyond recognition. Tom opens up about the moment, two years ago to the day we recorded this, when he hit rock bottom. He talks honestly about the help he got, the people who stepped up, and how he pulled himself back. This isn't a sob story. It's one of the most genuine, hopeful conversations we've had on the podcast, and Tom tells it the way only he can. Since we last spoke, Tom has gone from around 1,000 followers to closing in on 24,000, picked up brand deals and ambassadorships, and completely transformed how his landscaping business operates. He tried scaling up with a team of three, decided it wasn't for him, and went back to working solo, finishing every job ahead of schedule and making just as much money with far less stress. He also lost seven and a half stone. At his heaviest, he was 22 stone, and the weight he lost was equivalent to the combined weight of his two boys. We touch on Mounjaro, the journey that came with it, and why there's a part two coming on that topic alone. We round off with Tom's take on dodgy customers versus dodgy tradespeople, why he now takes a 50% deposit without exception, and what he'd tell himself ten years ago, starting out in the trade. If you're going through a difficult time, please reach out. Samaritans are available 24/7 on 116 123.

    I Hit Rock Bottom Two Years Ago. This is What Saved Me | Trade Legends Podcast

  6. 15 Jun

    HORROR customer never paid me and almost closed my business | Trade Legends Podcast

    This week on the Trade Legends Podcast, Toni from ALO Electrical has spent over 15 years building a fire and security business from the ground up, and in this episode, he holds nothing back. Toni left school without grades, enrolled on a BTEC business course, bought a motorbike the same day and never went back. He ended up becoming a chef before retraining as an electrician in his 20s, inspired by a family member in the trade. His first job interview involved being handed a plug and told to wire it on the spot, and that moment stuck with him. He went self-employed in 2009, founded ALO Electrical, and has been building it ever since. But it hasn't always been smooth. Toni opens up about a large-door entry and auction system job at a stately home — £14-15k of work — that didn't pay for 9 months. Lying awake at night, wondering where the money was coming from. And how that experience made a 50% deposit on every job completely non-negotiable from that point forward.Toni also get's into the real challenges of taking on apprentices as a smaller firm, what colleges are getting badly wrong about preparing young people for the trades, and the hidden electrical dangers Toni regularly finds on site that builders have left behind, including a fire alarm system in an HMO that had been relocated, cabled chopped off, and left dead in the wall with tenants still living there. We round off with a conversation about the financial burden on self-employed people right now, and why understanding your own numbers is the single most important thing you can do as a trades business owner.

    HORROR customer never paid me and almost closed my business | Trade Legends Podcast

  7. 1 Jun

    The Brutal Truth of Running a Luxury Construction Company | Trade Legends Podcast

    On this week's episode, Al sits down with Jermaine from Stately Home Developments, a luxury renovation and construction brand built from the ground up over the last five years. Jermaine's path into the trades is one of the most unexpected we've come across. Starting out on weekends with his granddad doing kitchen and bathroom fits in East London, he quickly realised construction was where he belonged. But before going all in, he took a serious detour into the world of acting, extra work on Spider-Man sets, BBC and ITV productions, film festivals, networking with directors, and eventually a gig in Atlanta after living in Malta and South Africa. When Covid hit, he came back to the UK and went full steam ahead with Stately Home Developments, and hasn't looked back. In this episode, we cover how social media has transformed the way he wins work, why putting your face to the brand gives you the upper hand before you even arrive on site, what he learned watching a terrible builder somehow win premium jobs, the real cost of running a construction business on relationships and mental load, and why investing in yourself early is always cheaper than waiting. Follow us on Spotify and YouTube, and use the link below for discounts from our sponsors, Powered Now and Pocket Receptionist.

    The Brutal Truth of Running a Luxury Construction Company | Trade Legends Podcast

  8. 24 May

    Britain's Hidden Electrical Crisis Is About to Explode | Trade Legends Podcast

    On this Episode of Trade Legends, we talk about how Britain needs 25,000 new electricians a year. We're producing maybe 5,000. Mark Allison has spent 20 years in the electrical industry and is now on a mission to fix the training crisis from the inside, hands-on, accredited, no shortcuts. We get into the £12k course scams robbing people blind, why employers have stopped taking apprentices, what the government keeps getting wrong, and why the next decade is going to make electricians seriously wealthy, if they're ready for it.

    Britain's Hidden Electrical Crisis Is About to Explode | Trade Legends Podcast
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Trade Legends is the UK's number one weekly construction podcast, hosted by Alex and Mark Tiff. Every week we sit down with tradespeople from across the industry, carpenters, plumbers, electricians, bricklayers, plasterers, builders, apprentices and more, for honest conversations about life on the tools. No filter, no fluff. Just real stories about skills, money, mental health, apprenticeships, business, and everything else that comes with working in the trades.

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