Trims And Talk Podcast

Lungani Sibanda, Donald McLean and SACMHA
  • 5.0 (2)
  • Mental Health
  • Updated weekly

The podcast is centred on discussing men's mental health, particularly within the Black community, using the culturally significant barbershop as a backdrop. It combines a barbershop's informal and communal atmosphere with serious, impactful conversations about mental wellness. Each episode features a variety of guests, including therapists, community leaders, and everyday people, who share their personal stories, challenges, and insights related to mental health issues. The podcast aims to break down stigmas, foster open communication, and provide a supportive space for open honest talk.

  1. 25 Jun

    What happens when crisis is no longer something you survive—but something you transform into a calling?

    Some people have a way of making you feel as though you've known them all your life. Their presence reminds you of a mother, an auntie, a grandmother—the women whose strength quietly held families together while carrying burdens few ever saw. In this episode of Trims & Talk, we sit down with Beatrice Uwadiale-Odigie , founder of Life After Crisis, nurse, midwife, mother of six, grandmother, and one of Sheffield's quiet champions of healing. Born in Nigeria, Beatrice first arrived in Britain in 1975 to train as a midwife before returning home to build a life and raise a family. But when economic hardship reshaped that dream, she found herself back in the UK, carrying not only her own experiences of loss, resilience and reinvention, but also a growing awareness that many women—particularly African and Caribbean women—were suffering in silence. Out of that realisation came Life After Crisis: a safe space where women experiencing domestic abuse, bereavement, loneliness, financial hardship, and emotional trauma can rediscover hope, confidence, friendship, and purpose. This is more than a conversation about mental health. It is a conversation about migration.About motherhood.About faith.About friendship.About identity.About loneliness.About ageing with purpose.And about the extraordinary power of community. Along the way we discuss: Why silence keeps cycles of pain alive. Building safe spaces where people can finally tell their stories. The hidden loneliness experienced by carers and healthcare professionals. Nigerian and Caribbean culture, food, music, humour and belonging. Why social connection is one of the greatest medicines we possess. How dancing, sewing, singing, creativity and shared meals become pathways to healing. What it means to remain full of life at 75 years young. There is laughter—especially over Jollof rice. There are moments of deep reflection. And there is a simple but profound reminder: Crisis does not have to define your life. There is always life after crisis. Hosted by Lungani Sibanda and Donald McLean, this episode is a celebration of resilience, compassion, and the women whose stories too often remain untold. It is also a reminder that healing rarely happens in isolation...it begins with conversation. "As long as we are in this world, there is something to do." — Beatrice

    56 min

  2. 25 Jun

    Leadership, Belonging and the Courage to Stay in the Conversation

    What happens when four Black men each shaped by decades of community work, faith, education and lived experience sit together without a script? In this special extended conversation, David Bussue (CEO of SACMHA and pastor), Dr. Delroy Hall (author, educator, therapist and former pastor), Donald Maclean, and Lungani Sibanda explore some of the most pressing questions facing Black communities today. From the changing political climate and the resurgence of racial tensions, to mental health, servant leadership, spirituality, solidarity, identity and belonging, this is an honest, reflective discussion that refuses easy answers. Together they ask: Why do organisations like SACMHA matter now more than ever? Have we mistaken representation for transformation? What is the difference between allyship and genuine solidarity? How do faith and practical action work together? What responsibilities come with leadership? How do we prepare the next generation without surrendering hope? Rather than offering certainty, this episode invites listeners into a thoughtful conversation about values, purpose and community. It is a reminder that healing begins not only in therapy rooms, churches or political institutions but wherever people choose to listen deeply, speak honestly and walk alongside one another. Featuring:David Bussue • Dr. Delroy Hall • Donald Maclean • Lungani Sibanda "Hope is not found in denying reality. Hope is found in choosing one another despite it."

    1hr 33min

  3. 13 Apr

    More Than Skin Deep: Self-Care, Confidence & Community ' with Eleasha Yarde

    What does it really mean to look after yourself? On this episode of  Trims and Talk, we sit down with Eleasha Yarde of OMM Makeup & Beauty for a conversation that goes far beyond skincare and makeup. We explore the link between self-care and mental health, and how the simple acts, a haircut, clear skin, clean clothes can shift how we feel, how we move, and how we show up in the world. Eleasha opens up about: Growing up navigating dyslexia and nearly quitting universityThe teacher who refused to let her give upBuilding confidence in young people who don’t feel seenThe lack of representation in beauty education for melanin-rich skinSocial media, body image, and the pressure to look a certain wayThis episode moves like a real conversation from barbershops to classrooms, from laughter to lived experience. Because in the end, this isn’t just about beauty. It’s about confidence, identity, and learning to see yourself differently. 🎧 Tap in. This one’s real. #TrimsAndTalk #SelfCareMatters

    1hr 13min

  4. 17 Mar

    Mothers Who Shape Minds: Women, Research & Leadership in Academia

    In this episode of the Trims and Talk Podcast, we sit down with two remarkable women from the University of Sheffield, Dr. Stephanie Ejegi-Memeh and Dr. Kate Fryer  for a thoughtful conversation about motherhood, academia, leadership, and community responsibility. Released around International Women’s Day and Mother’s Day, this episode reflects on the many roles women hold as mothers, scholars, researchers, and leaders, often navigating professional spaces that have historically been dominated by men. Dr. Stephanie Ejegi-Memeh is a Research Fellow in the School of Sociological Studies, Politics and International Relations at the University of Sheffield. Her work focuses on mental health, wellbeing, health inequalities, and the lived experiences of illness, particularly how racial and gendered inequalities shape health outcomes. Dr. Kate Fryer is a Research Fellow in the Primary Care Research Group within the School of Medicine and Population Health. She leads the Deep End Research Alliance, a pioneering initiative focused on tackling health inequalities and ensuring that research involving underserved communities is inclusive, collaborative, and grounded in real community participation. Both of these women have also been instrumental behind the scenes in helping create the institutional space within the University of Sheffield that allowed conversations like Trims and Talk to happen, supporting initiatives that centre  men’s mental health and honest dialogue within our communities. In this episode we explore: • What it means to be highly educated women and mothers working within academia• The pressures of research environments that demand constant innovation and intellectual leadership• Why research must be done with communities rather than on communities• How women continue to shape institutions, families, and the intellectual spaces that influence future generations For me personally, this conversation is also an acknowledgement. Having been raised and shaped by mothers, sisters, aunties, and grandmothers, I recognise the profound role women have played in shaping my worldview. This episode is both a celebration and a thank you to the women whose work often happens quietly, but whose influence is deeply felt in our communities, our institutions, and our lives.

    1hr 7min

  5. 16 Mar

    The Minds That Shape Minds: Motherhood, Academia & Leadership

    In this episode of the Trims and Talk Podcast, we sit down with two remarkable women from the University of Sheffield, Dr. Stephanie Ejegi-Memeh and Dr. Kate Fryer  for a thoughtful conversation about motherhood, academia, leadership, and community responsibility. Released around International Women’s Day and Mother’s Day, this episode reflects on the many roles women hold as mothers, scholars, researchers, and leaders, often navigating professional spaces that have historically been dominated by men. Dr. Stephanie Ejegi-Memeh is a Research Fellow in the School of Sociological Studies, Politics and International Relations at the University of Sheffield. Her work focuses on mental health, wellbeing, health inequalities, and the lived experiences of illness, particularly how racial and gendered inequalities shape health outcomes. Dr. Kate Fryer is a Research Fellow in the Primary Care Research Group within the School of Medicine and Population Health. She leads the Deep End Research Alliance, a pioneering initiative focused on tackling health inequalities and ensuring that research involving underserved communities is inclusive, collaborative, and grounded in real community participation. Both of these women have also been instrumental behind the scenes in helping create the institutional space within the University of Sheffield that allowed conversations like Trims and Talk to happen, supporting initiatives that centre  men’s mental health and honest dialogue within our communities. In this episode we explore: • What it means to be highly educated women and mothers working within academia • The pressures of research environments that demand constant innovation and intellectual leadership • Why research must be done with communities rather than on communities • How women continue to shape institutions, families, and the intellectual spaces that influence future generations For me personally, this conversation is also an acknowledgement. Having been raised and shaped by mothers, sisters, aunties, and grandmothers, I recognise the profound role women have played in shaping my worldview. This episode is both a celebration and a thank you to the women whose work often happens quietly, but whose influence is deeply felt in our communities, our institutions, and our lives.

    1hr 7min

  6. 29 Jan

    Still Learning, Still Becoming: A Cultural Injection with Wayne Reid

    In this episode of Trims and Talk, the conversation unfolds without performance or pretense just thoughtful exchange, humour, and reflection shaped by lived experience. Wayne Reid joins us as a guest whose presence is quietly grounded. The discussion moves from the familiarity of barbershop culture into deeper considerations of identity, perception, and what it means to move through the world as a Black man in spaces that often misunderstand or oversimplify. What begins with everyday observations gradually opens into reflections on how assumptions are formed and how character is built in response to them. A central theme of the episode is community. Wayne speaks about the importance of spaces such as Storm / Black Men’s Chat, describing them as a form of cultural nourishment a place to reconnect, to disagree without fracture, and to hear perspectives shaped by different generations and life paths. In a society that can isolate men as they age, these spaces offer something vital: connection without demand, belonging without performance. The conversation also traces Wayne’s professional journey and the role mentorship has played in shaping it. He reflects on moments where others recognised potential before he did himself, and how those moments quietly redirected his trajectory. These reflections sit alongside thoughtful insights on fatherhood, particularly the emotional complexity of watching a child step into independence and learning, in real time, how to let go while remaining present. Mental wellbeing is explored not as a fixed destination but as an ongoing process responsive to life’s transitions, responsibilities, and losses. The episode acknowledges resilience not as constant strength, but as the ability to adapt, reflect, and continue becoming. This episode captures the spirit of Trims and Talk at its best: a space where conversation is unhurried, humanity is centred, and growth is understood as a lifelong practice.

    1hr 8min

  7. 25 Jan

    Trims & Talk – Part Two: What Comes Next

    If Part One was about where we come from, this conversation is about where we are choosing to go. In Part Two, I return to the mic with my co-host Donald MacLean to talk about the next chapter—about intention, responsibility, and what it means to keep showing up as men, educators, and community workers. We reflect on the future not as a blank slate, but as something shaped by what we already carry: our histories, our losses, our lessons. We talk candidly about ageing, purpose, and the quiet work of staying committed to learning, to conversation, and to creating spaces where men can speak honestly about their inner lives. This episode looks toward 2026 and beyond not with grand declarations, but with clarity. With an understanding that progress is often slow, relational, and unglamorous. That the work is not about visibility, but usefulness. Not about having answers, but about asking better questions. We speak about legacy not as something dramatic, but as something lived. About continuing Trims & Talk, continuing the work within the Black Barbers Project, and continuing to hold space for dialogue rooted in trust rather than performance. Part Two is not a conclusion.It is a commitment. A conversation about staying the course.

    1hr 8min

  8. 22/12/2025

    Trims & Talk – Part One: Where We Come From

    This episode is about beginnings—spoken quietly, honestly, without performance. In Part One of this two-part conversation, I sit with my co-host, Donald McLean, and we do what we have always done best on Trims & Talk: we lay foundations. We talk about where we come from, how we were raised, and how history—personal and collective—shapes the way we see the world. The conversation opens in the everyday rhythms of life: Christmas plans, children, grandchildren, moving house, and the quiet responsibilities that mark parenthood. From there, it widens into something deeper. Donald reflects on growing up in Nottingham as a child of the Windrush generation—born here, formed here, and rooted in Britain with a certainty that needs no explanation. I reflect on my own journey—from Zimbabwe to the UK—arriving as a young economic migrant, learning what it means to call more than one place “home.” We talk about belonging and unbelonging. About being called “English” in Jamaica. About being labelled “Khiwa” back home. About how identity is negotiated not in theory, but in lived moments. We speak about books—how reading became a bridge to the world when television and radio were absent. We remember school libraries, teachers, curiosity, and the quiet violence of having your reality corrected in red ink because it did not fit someone else’s knowledge. This episode is also about history—who tells it, who sanitises it, and who is left out. We discuss why ordinary lives matter just as much as kings and battles. Why curiosity is essential. Why shielding children from uncomfortable truths robs them of understanding—and why forgetting history ensures its repetition. Part One is not about conclusions. It is about context.About listening.About making space for complexity. This is the ground on which the rest of the conversation stands.

    1hr 3min
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The podcast is centred on discussing men's mental health, particularly within the Black community, using the culturally significant barbershop as a backdrop. It combines a barbershop's informal and communal atmosphere with serious, impactful conversations about mental wellness. Each episode features a variety of guests, including therapists, community leaders, and everyday people, who share their personal stories, challenges, and insights related to mental health issues. The podcast aims to break down stigmas, foster open communication, and provide a supportive space for open honest talk.

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  • Creator
    Lungani Sibanda, Donald McLean and SACMHA
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    51
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Lungani Sibanda, Donald McLean and SACMHA
  • Show Website
    Trims And Talk Podcast