Is your strategy a vision built on solid foundations , or a story you've told yourself with nothing underneath it? And if the industry shifted tomorrow, would you even see it coming? This episode of Wicked Problems goes deep on Wardley Mapping , one of the most rigorous and underused frameworks in strategy today. Simon Wardley, the creator of Wardley Maps, joins the show to explain how the methodology works, where it came from, and why most of what businesses call a "map" is actually just a graph. Simon's path to mapping began not in a consulting firm or business school, but in a crisis of self-awareness: he was a CEO with no idea what he was doing, until a bookseller in Charing Cross handed him Sun Tzu's The Art of War. What followed was two decades of developing a tool now used by governments, investment firms, and , as Simon discovered at a conference , NASA. What We Cover Why everything called a "map" in business , mind maps, process maps, systems maps , is technically a graph, and why the distinction matters for strategy How components in any value chain evolve from genesis through custom-build, product, and commodity , and how to use that to your advantage Why the real value of Wardley Mapping isn't the map itself, but the conversations that happen while building it How to use maps for pre-mortem and post-mortem analysis , and why taking multiple snapshots over time reveals patterns you can't see any other way Why a useful map must be imperfect, and why chasing a perfect map is a guaranteed path to paralysis How investment firms use Wardley Maps to identify which industries are heading for disruption , including groups that use them specifically to short sectors How the UK government used mapping to save £450 million on a single project, and what that required at the level of spend control Why great leaders being great storytellers is a liability in strategy discussions , and how maps sidestep that problem entirely How to apply different management methodologies (Agile, Lean, Six Sigma) to the correct parts of a map rather than picking one and applying it everywhere Where to start if you've never mapped before, and what the learning curve actually looks like Whether you're a business leader trying to validate a strategy before committing resources, an operator in a fast-moving sector like EV or fintech trying to understand where the market is heading, or a consultant who needs a better tool for driving alignment across senior stakeholders , this episode gives you a framework that sharpens how you see competitive landscapes and where to move next. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:57 The CEO Who Had No Idea What He Was Doing (It Was Me) 05:55 Maps vs. Graphs: Why Almost Everything Called a Map Isn't One 08:40 How Every Component Evolves , From Genesis to Commodity 10:17 Methodologies, Finance, and the £450 Million Government Save 13:18 Nine Years to Get Good , and Why Practice Is the Only Path 21:14 Maps Are a Snapshot: What Tectonic Plates Teach Us About Strategy 24:53 The Real Value of Mapping Is in the Conversation, Not the Artifact 25:56 Why a Useful Map Must Be Imperfect 27:25 Mapping in Government: GDS, Spend Control, and the Cabinet Office Wicked Problems Podcast https://wickedproblems.fm Simon Wardley Simon's website and contact https://swardleymaps.com Wardley Maps (online book) , medium.com/wardleymaps https://medium.com/wardleymaps Wardley Mapping Community & Tools Wardley Maps community hub (Chris Daniels) https://wardleymaps.com Learn Wardley Mapping (Ben Mosior) https://learnwardleymapping.com Online mapping tool https://onlinewardleymaps.com
