In Part 1 of this two part exploration, we turn from the mind to the body and begin with a mystery that modern science has struggled to explain. Energy healing is one of the oldest medical traditions on Earth, yet it has long existed at the margins of Western understanding. The episode opens with a Cambridge-trained material scientist, Simon Duan, whose worldview shifts instantly when a Qigong practitioner in China removes his wisdom teeth pain-free - without anesthesia. His story leads us into the origins of ancient Chinese medicine, where psychic doctors once perceived organs with their mind’s eye and communicated with plants to understand their medicinal properties. From there, we meet healer Julie Goeltz, whose husband’s life-threatening lymphedema disappeared during a Reiki session, launching her into a practice that now includes remote healing and vivid remote viewing experiences that transcend physical distance. We also hear from author and clinician Jill Blakeway, who describes energy healing as the body’s own intelligence becoming coherent and who has spent years tracing the science behind these subtle forces. The investigation widens further through the work of physician-scientist Dr. Neil Theise, whose research helped identify the interstitium, a fluid-filled network running through the body that behaves electrically and may be the physical basis for meridians, chakras, and the subtle systems described by healers for thousands of years. This discovery raises a provocative possibility that the interstitium may carry not only fluid but information. If so, the boundary between mind and body becomes more permeable than we imagine. Part 1 sets the foundation for next week’s episode, where we follow healers and scientists into the lab as they attempt to capture what might be moving between people during healing itself. Exciting update: As of April 2026, the scientific journal Cancer Medicine published a landmark study from MD Anderson Cancer Center showing energy healing slows pancreatic cancer growth and spread in pre-clinical research. This rigorous four-year study at one of the world’s top cancer institutes found that biofield therapy reliably reduced cancer metastasis by more than 50%, and influenced key biological systems, in cells and animals. Access the full study here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cam4.71726 For this episode we would like to thank: Phenomena, a three-part documentary and six part podcast featuring exclusive access to groundbreaking scientists, transformative healers, and evidence that’s rewriting what we know about energy healing and the human body https://www.phenomenahealing.com/telepathytapes The Emerald Gate Charitable Trust, a philanthropic foundation committed to improving the human condition and expanding the conscious mind through rigorous scientific research, whose research has been cited in this podcast https://emeraldgatefoundation.org/research-projects/ The Subtle Energy Funders Collective, a network of philanthropists in support of bringing energy healing to the mainstream through a systems change approach www.subtleenergyfunderscollective.com To work directly with Julie Goeltz visit www.juliegoeltz.com -- Join The Telepathy Tapes Backstage Pass to get ad-free episodes, never-before-heard interviews, behind-the-scenes documentary footage, and access to our private Discord community.This is your invitation to come closer. To help shape what’s next. To be more than a listener… to be a co-creator of this paradigm shift. So if you’ve felt moved, if you’ve felt seen, if you’ve felt the call—subscribe today and join us: thetelepathytapes.supercast.com. -- Thank you to our Sponsors! Shop SKIMS Fits Everybody collection at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropdown menu that follows. Visit Etherwell.co and use the code TAPES25 for 10% off your order. Visit Quince.com/tapes for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Visit ThriveMarket.com/TAPES to get 30% off your first order and a free $60 gift. Get 40% off your entire order at Lolablankets.com by using code TAPES at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets. Visit Graza.co/TAPES and use code TAPES to get 10% off your order. Visit happymammoth.com use code TAPES at checkout for 15% off your first order. Visit Luminara.care and use code TAPES20 at checkout for 20% off your first session. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
