WomenAizer

Womenaizer Podcast

WomenAizer is a podcast and media initiative dedicated to highlighting the voices, stories, and impact of women working at the intersection of artificial intelligence and fundamental rights. By bridging cutting-edge scholarship with accessible, inspiring conversations, we amplify women shaping critical debates on AI, law, and governance exploring how innovation and rights can move forward together. Dive with Frédérique Boulanger and Yamina Bouadi into inspiring conversations with women experts in AI, law and emerging technologies, shaping the future of our digital society! Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Episodes

  1. 18 Jun

    Episode 4: In discussion with Marie Geny - Health Sensors Under the M(A)icroscope

    Background and Research Interests -  00:35-02:11 Introduction 02:12-03:53 Could you elaborate on how these French and international judicial proceedings’ experiences honed your quest for law practice learning? 03:54-05:55  Were your practices and training in human rights, biomedicine, and sexual and cyber violence, part of your inspirations to start a research career? 05:56-07:57 What led you to analysing health related AI systems? 07:58-10:20  How did you choose the subjects of health practitioners and AI physical appearance discrimination? IT Perspectives - Understanding the legal consequences  10:21-13:43 Could you please illustrate the technicological occurrence of AI biases based on appearance discrimination? 13:44-14:50 Are there any technological ways to prevent these biaes? 14:51-17:12  Could you please elaborate on the remote sensors you studied and how they work?  17:13-20:37 What technical mistakes exist and how do they impact patients? Legal Perspectives 20:38-22:57 What is your feeling on the legal context Ai law reseachers are currently in? 22:58-25:35 Do you think the risk of these discriminatory biases is known to concerned individuals and adequately approached by lawmakers? 25:36-28:58 What concrete legal measures exist to avoid this discrimination?  28:59-31:40 In your opinion, what are the main shortcomings of existing standards in regulating discriminatory biases?   On health censors and health liabilities 31:41-37:25 How did you establish a link between this French law and the health professional’s liability? 37:26-39:03 On the damage, French law recognises several harms, in the case of the harm suffered by patients in medical sensors, how easy is it to apprehend by French Law?  Signature questions 39:04-40:00 What key advice would you give to women exploring the world of AI and law? Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    Episode 4: In discussion with Marie Geny - Health Sensors Under the M(A)icroscope
  2. 15 May

    Episode 3: In discussion with Salomé Lannier (part 2) - AI-based detection of human exploitation

    🎙️Episode 3: Continued Dialogue with Salomé Lannier – AI-Based Detection of Human Exploitation   We had so much to talk about that our conversation had to be split in two episodes 🫶   What you will find in this episode:   👩‍🎓AI Act & DSA: Legal Boundaries and Responsibilities. The AI Act sets regulatory limits for artificial intelligence, while the Digital Services Act ensures platforms are accountable for online content and its societal impacts. Interculturality: Sex Work vs Human Trafficking. Distinguishing sex work from trafficking requires precise legal definitions and sensitivity to cultural contexts. 👩‍💻GDPR, AI Act & Online Content. GDPR and the AI Act together protect personal data and regulate AI-driven systems on digital platforms. Public-Private Collaboration. Effective legal protection against exploitation demands enhanced cooperation between public and private sectors. ⛔Victim Treatment: Non-Punishment & Consent. Upholding the principle of non-punishment and recognising consent complexities are essential for victim-centred justice.Timeline Legal perspectives follow-up  0:34 - 1:35 The limitation of the AI Act - the DSA as addressing the consequences. 1:41 - 2:55 Interculturality - how  sex work and human trafficking differ. 3:07 - 4:11  Liability and decisions taken by the deployer. 4:35 - 8:09  The GDPR and AI Act and the multiple purposes in the scope of online content - the legal framework in the context of the online platforms. 8:20 - 11:13  The question of implementing more protection and collaboration between public-private actors ? 11:41 - 13:28  The treatment of victims - principle of non punishment for human trafficking victims & consent.  Technical perspectives 13:56 - 18:31  The technical issues - human over the loop - research transparency. 18:32 - 21:52  The “positioning” concept. 21:53 - 24:52  Remediation of discrimination, biases - “the women question”. 25: 00 - 28:58  Ex post control over the AI system - overblocking/underblocking concepts. 29:18 - 32:51 Explainability of AI system - automated decisions in this context of human exploitation - right of explainability. 33:07 - 36:00  Legal remedy/technical remedy if the AI is not high risk - deep fakes. 36:03 - 39:00  Implementing collaboration & ethics to address those issues - digital literacy. Signature questions 39:57 - 41:29 What female figures inspired your research? 41: 38 - 42:45 What key advice would you give to women exploring the world of AI and Law? Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    Episode 3:  In discussion with Salomé Lannier (part 2) - AI-based detection of human exploitation
  3. 14 Apr

    Episode 2: In discussion with Salomé Lannier (part 1) - AI-based detection of human exploitation

    Episode 2: In discussion with Salomé Lannier - AI-based detection of human exploitation Introduction: 00:00 - 01:46 Salomé Lannier's presentation: 01:46 - 02:46 Her research background and interests: 02:47 - 07:57PROTEX project (Protect against exploitation): 07:58 - 10:35 The necessity of interdisciplinary and comparative perspectives: 10:36 - 23:20 Practical challenges of supervision by authorities and platforms: 23:20 - 28:50 Tech perspective: AI tools detecting human trafficking: 28:51 - 35:01 EU AI Act applicability to these tools and the consequences on "potential" victims of exploitation: 35:01 - 43:23 What about the AI-based tools used by the platforms? The answer is in the next episode, stay tuned :) In this episode, we welcomed Salomé Lannier, Postdoctoral Researcher at the University of Luxembourg, whose work takes part at the intersection of criminal law, digital regulation, and human exploitation. Drawing on her research and the PROTEX project (https://lnkd.in/d-mW4ujb), this conversation explores one of the most complex challenges in today’s digital landscape: how AI systems are used to detect human trafficking and the legal and ethical risks they raise. From the absence of a clear legal definition of “exploitation” to the growing use of algorithmic tools by law enforcement and platforms, the episode highlights a critical tension: tools designed to protect can also misidentify, discriminate, or even harm the very individuals they aim to support. We discuss the use of AI in detecting online sexual exploitation, the risks of biased or opaque data labelling. The second part of our discussion with Salomé, in which we discuss on the blurred abilities of platforms and law enforcement and limits of existing legal frameworks, will follow in next episode, stay tuned. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    Episode 2:  In discussion with Salomé Lannier (part 1) - AI-based detection of human exploitation
  4. 6 Mar

    Episode 1: In discussion with Niovi Vavoula - When migration meets tech

    In this first episode of WomenAizer, we explore the intersection of artificial intelligence, migration governance, and fundamental rights with Niovi Vavoula. Drawing on her extensive research on EU migration law and digital surveillance, the conversation examines how algorithmic profiling, automated decision-making, and interoperable large-scale IT systems are transforming border management across Europe. We discuss the evolution of EU surveillance law, the role of the Court of Justice of the European Union in shaping judicial benchmarks, and the increasing reliance on data-driven tools in systems such as ETIAS and VIS. The episode also addresses the implications of the newly adopted AI Act, the limits of the GDPR, and the persistent difficulty of ensuring meaningful remedies for individuals affected by automated decision-making. As migration governance becomes increasingly digital, questions of vulnerability, accountability, and data protection move to the forefront of legal debate. At its core, this conversation asks a critical question: how can the European Union reconcile its security objectives with its commitment to fundamental rights in an era of AI-driven border governance?Introduction: 00:00 - 01:34 Niovi Vavoula's background: 01:35 - 14:10 Legal perspectives: 14:11 - 33:00 Technological perspectives: 33:01 - 48:07 Signature questions: 48:08 - 51:49 Selected References: Vavoula, N. (2021). Artificial Intelligence at Schengen Borders: Automated Processing, Algorithmic Profiling and Facial Recognition in the Era of Techno-Solutionism. European Journal of Migration and Law. Vavoula, N. (2022). Immigration and Privacy in the Law of the European Union. Brill Nijhoff. Vavoula, N. (2023). Data Retention and the Future of Large-Scale Surveillance: The Evolution and Contestation of Judicial Benchmarks. European Law Journal. Vavoula, N. (2023). (Discriminatory) Algorithmic Profiling and Ineffective Remedies: The Cases of ETIAS and VIS. ASYL. Vavoula, N. (2024). Algorithmic Accountability Through the “Human over the Loop” in Interoperable and AI-Reliant EU Large-Scale IT Systems. European Papers. Vavoula, N. (2024). The Tr-AI-nsformation of EU Migration, Asylum and Border Management. Computer Law & Security Review. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    Episode 1: In discussion with Niovi Vavoula - When migration meets tech

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WomenAizer is a podcast and media initiative dedicated to highlighting the voices, stories, and impact of women working at the intersection of artificial intelligence and fundamental rights. By bridging cutting-edge scholarship with accessible, inspiring conversations, we amplify women shaping critical debates on AI, law, and governance exploring how innovation and rights can move forward together. Dive with Frédérique Boulanger and Yamina Bouadi into inspiring conversations with women experts in AI, law and emerging technologies, shaping the future of our digital society! Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.