AI-First Engineering Podcast

TestGrid

The podcast where engineering and technology leaders share how AI is transforming software delivery, quality, and the future of engineering

Episodes

  1. 2 days ago

    Did Playwright Win the AI Testing War?

    Episode 6: Did Playwright Win the AI Testing War?Playwright has quickly become one of the most talked-about tools in test automation. But has it actually won the AI testing war? In Episode 6 of AI First Engineering, Jon Robinson sits down with Andrew Knight, the Automation Panda, to explore why Playwright has gained so much momentum, how AI is changing test automation, and what this means for teams still working with Selenium. The conversation goes beyond the Playwright vs. Selenium debate and looks at test maintenance, developer experience, AI-assisted automation, mobile testing, and the increasingly important build vs. buy question. In this episode, we discuss:• Why Playwright is gaining momentum and how its developer experience and AI integrations are influencing adoption. • Whether Selenium teams actually need to migrate to Playwright, or whether existing reliable and maintainable frameworks can continue to serve their needs. • How AI is changing the way tests are created and maintained, and why standardized frameworks can make it easier for AI to work effectively. • Where Playwright fits in web and API testing, and where teams still need other tools for native mobile testing. • Why test maintenance remains a major challenge with highly customized Selenium frameworks. • Build vs. buy: When does building your own automation infrastructure stop making sense? Andrew discusses friction points including orchestration, execution resources, reporting, dashboards, and devices. • How AI could change the role of testing, with testing potentially becoming more of a shared responsibility across engineering and product teams. • Whether acceptance and evaluation could become increasingly important as teams rethink how quality is owned. About Andrew KnightAndrew Knight, known as the Automation Panda, has spent his career in software testing, quality, and automation. He started as an SDET and progressed into team leadership across multiple companies and industries. He has contributed to open source, including Boa Constrictor, a .NET implementation of the Screenplay pattern. Andrew has also worked in developer relations at Applitools and served as Director of Test Automation University. Today, he is Senior Director of Product and Engineering at Cycle Labs, building test automation solutions for supply chain and warehouse management systems. He is also a Playwright Ambassador, speaker, and educator focused on test automation, Playwright, AI, and software quality. Find Andrew🌐 Automation Panda: automationpanda.com 🌐 Auto Panda Motive: autopandamotive.com 💼 LinkedIn: Andrew Knight / Automation Panda 📚 LinkedIn Learning: Playwright and AI courses Key Takeaways• Playwright's developer experience and AI integration have helped drive its growing momentum. • Teams with reliable Selenium automation do not necessarily need to rewrite it. • AI can accelerate test creation and maintenance, but the underlying framework and consistency still matter. • Playwright is focused primarily on web testing and does not replace native mobile testing. • Build vs. buy depends on a team's skills, infrastructure, scale, orchestration, reporting, and execution needs. • AI may reduce manual testing work while making quality expertise and judgment more important. Listen to Episode 6 of AI First Engineering: Did Playwright Win the AI Testing War?

  2. 2 Sept

    Will AI Agents Redefine the Software Development Lifecycle?

    Episode 5: Will AI Agents Redefine the Software Development Lifecycle?What happens when AI stops being a coding assistant and starts becoming part of the engineering team? In this episode of AI-First Engineering, Jon Robinson, Head of Market Development at TestGrid, talks with Piyush Tiwari, Senior Software Engineering Manager at Wayfair, about how AI agents are changing the way software gets built and what that means for the engineers building it. Piyush shares how his team has moved beyond traditional AI copilots. Instead of engineers simply using AI to write code, agents can now pick up a user story, work through it end-to-end, and bring an engineer in for review. The engineer's role starts to shift from being the person executing every task to becoming the director working with the agents. But that shift creates a bigger question: if AI takes over the grunt work, how do the next generation of engineers develop the experience needed to become senior engineers? Jon and Piyush explore: From copilots to agents: How AI has evolved from helping engineers write better code to executing work across the development lifecycle.The changing role of engineers: Why system understanding, judgment, and decision-making could become more important than writing code.The junior engineer problem: If engineers no longer learn through repetitive work, failures, and production incidents, how do they develop experience?AI as a learning partner: How pairing junior engineers with AI agents could create a new way to learn by reviewing and validating AI-generated work.What humans still need to own: Why final sign-offs, domain knowledge, edge cases, and understanding business and customer impact remain critical.The rise of the techno-functional engineer: Why understanding both technology and the business problem may matter more as AI gets better at execution.The economics of AI: Why organizations may need to become more selective about where they use AI as the cost of running increasingly capable models grows.Using AI deliberately: Why the next phase may not be about putting AI everywhere, but figuring out where it actually creates value.AI is evolving quickly, and there is no established playbook for what comes next. As Piyush puts it, we are all learning in real time. The challenge now is figuring out how to embrace AI without losing the skills, judgment, and experience that make great engineers valuable. Listen to Episode 5 of AI-First Engineering to hear where Piyush thinks software engineering is headed next. #AI #AIAgents #SoftwareEngineering #EngineeringLeadership #SDLC #AIFirstEngineering #TestGrid

  3. 5 Aug

    Will AI Make Great Engineers Even Better?

    AI is no longer just helping engineers write code. It's reviewing pull requests, generating tests, documenting systems, and increasingly acting as a collaborative engineering teammate. But as AI takes on more of the software development lifecycle, one question becomes more important than ever: What will distinguish great engineers in an AI-first world? In Episode 3 of AI-First Engineering, Jon Robinson, Head of Market Development at TestGrid, sits down with Suneet Malhotra, Senior IEEE Member and independent practitioner-researcher, to explore how AI is reshaping engineering roles, quality engineering, and software development itself. Together, they discuss why the future belongs to builders, how AI is changing the role of QA, the rise of AI agents and Model Context Protocol (MCP), and why human judgment remains critical in an increasingly autonomous engineering landscape. In this episode: • How AI is making experienced engineers dramatically more productive • Why the future role of QA is evolving into that of a "builder" • How AI agents and MCP are transforming software development workflows • Why human expertise is still essential for validating AI-generated work • The challenges of measuring AI quality and building confidence in AI systems • Whether the QA engineer role will still exist five years from now Guest: Suneet Malhotra is a Senior IEEE Member and independent practitioner-researcher in LLM-augmented software testing, with over 20 years of experience leading quality engineering for consumer-scale platforms including Motorola, Tinder, Amazon, Ticketmaster, the Oprah Winfrey Network, and Spokeo. Host: Jon Robinson, Head of Market Development, TestGrid. AI-First Engineering is a podcast by TestGrid featuring conversations with engineering and technology leaders shaping the future of AI-driven software delivery, quality engineering, and enterprise innovation. Links suneetmalhotra.com github.com/SuneetMalhotra linkedin.com/in/suneet-m

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The podcast where engineering and technology leaders share how AI is transforming software delivery, quality, and the future of engineering