Develop This: Economic and Community Development

Develop This! Podcast

Explore topics related to transformational community leadership including economic development, non-profit engagement, organizational management, and policy development. It's a candid conversation with veterans of the economic development profession along with inspiring interviews of today's thought leaders.

  1. 1 day ago

    DT #675 How Surprise, Arizona Became a Retail and Growth Success Story

    What happens when creativity, community engagement, and data-driven strategy come together in economic development? In this episode of Develop This!, Dennis Fraise speaks with Jeanine Jerkovic, Economic Development Director for Surprise, Arizona, about the city's rapid growth and the innovative approaches helping shape its future. Jeanine shares how Surprise has successfully attracted major retail investments, including projects like Costco and The Village at Prasada, while maintaining a strong focus on community needs and quality of life. A major theme throughout the conversation is the importance of listening. Jeanine explains how engaging residents, understanding local priorities, and incorporating community feedback have helped guide development decisions and build public trust. The discussion also highlights the role of creativity in economic development. From unique marketing efforts to unconventional outreach strategies, Jeanine demonstrates how personality and innovation can help communities stand out in a competitive landscape. Entrepreneurship is another key focus, with insights into how business incubation, small business support, and ecosystem development are contributing to long-term economic growth. Key Takeaways Community engagement is essential for sustainable growth Data and analytics help guide better development decisions Creativity can be a powerful economic development tool Retail attraction requires long-term strategy and persistence Entrepreneurship strengthens local economic resilience Balancing growth with community priorities builds trust and support A people-first approach creates stronger outcomes for residents and businesses Key Topics Covered Retail attraction and major development wins Creative marketing and economic development strategies Community engagement and public input Data-driven decision-making Entrepreneurship and business incubation Managing growth while preserving community priorities Leadership and professional development Sound Bites "Surprise, Arizona—the name says it all." "Adding thousands of homes every year." "17 retailers opened over 10 years."

    DT #675 How Surprise, Arizona Became a Retail and Growth Success Story

  2. 1 day ago

    DT #676 Why Lifelong Learning Matters in Economic Development

    What happens when an unconventional career path leads to economic development? In this episode of Develop This!, Dennis Fraise speaks with Brian Fleming about his journey from code enforcement and cybersecurity into the world of economic development—and the unique perspective that transition has given him. Brian shares how collaboration, continuous learning, and a willingness to embrace new challenges helped shape his career. Along the way, he offers practical insights on building confidence, overcoming imposter syndrome, and developing strong professional networks. A major focus of the conversation is neurodiversity in the workplace. Brian discusses how understanding individual strengths, creating effective workarounds, and fostering inclusive environments can help organizations unlock talent and improve performance. The discussion also explores the growing role of AI and technology in economic development. From improving communication to streamlining workflows, Brian highlights how professionals can use emerging tools while continuing to rely on critical thinking and human judgment. A key takeaway? Success in economic development is built on curiosity, adaptability, and a commitment to lifelong learning. Key Takeaways Diverse career experiences can create valuable perspectives in economic development Collaboration and mentorship are essential for professional growth Neurodiversity brings unique strengths and opportunities to the workplace AI can improve efficiency and communication when used strategically Continuous learning helps professionals adapt to change Building confidence often comes from taking on new challenges Key Topics Covered Brian's journey into economic development Collaboration and professional networking Neurodiversity in the workplace AI and emerging technology trends Lifelong learning and personal growth Building confidence and overcoming challenges Sound Bites "I once planned to be a professional mime." "Fear is self-imposed; I chose this career." "Use AI to check for grammatical errors."

    DT #676 Why Lifelong Learning Matters in Economic Development

  3. 1 day ago

    DT #677 Inside America's Largest Data Center Project With Rob Cleveland

    What happens when a $50 billion data center investment comes to a rural region? In this episode of Develop This!, Dennis Fraise sits down with Rob Cleveland to explore the economic and community impact of Meta's massive data center project in northeast Louisiana. Rob discusses how the project is creating jobs, expanding infrastructure, supporting local businesses, and creating new opportunities throughout the region. He also explains the site selection process and how communities can prepare to attract transformative investments. The conversation also addresses common concerns and misconceptions surrounding data centers, including their impact on communities and the broader economy. Key Takeaways Data centers can drive significant regional investment and job creation. Infrastructure readiness is critical to attracting major projects. Local businesses can benefit from large-scale development. Community engagement is essential when addressing concerns about data centers. Transformative projects can create economic benefits far beyond the project site. Key Topics Covered Meta's $50 billion investment Data centers and economic development Site selection and infrastructure Job creation and local business opportunities Community impact and public perception Sound Bites "The numbers are staggering." "This is the greatest project I've ever worked on." "Nearly everybody in the region will be making more money."

    DT #677 Inside America's Largest Data Center Project With Rob Cleveland

  4. 19 Aug

    DT #673 Navigating Uncertainty in Site Selection and Facility Investment

    What does the future hold for facility investment in an increasingly uncertain economy? In this episode of Develop This!, Dennis Fraise speaks with Jerry Szatan, a veteran site selection consultant with more than 35 years of experience, about the challenges and opportunities shaping investment decisions today. Jerry shares why many companies are taking a more cautious approach to expansion, navigating economic uncertainty, shifting market conditions, and evolving business priorities before committing to major projects. A major focus of the conversation is artificial intelligence and its growing role in site selection. While AI is helping companies analyze data faster than ever, Jerry emphasizes that technology is only as effective as the questions being asked—and that experience, judgment, and relationships remain critical components of decision-making. The discussion also explores the importance of community readiness. From infrastructure and site preparedness to workforce capacity and long-term planning, communities must be ready to move quickly when opportunities emerge. Throughout the episode, Jerry offers practical insights on how economic developers can position their communities for success despite an uncertain investment climate. A key takeaway? While technology and market conditions continue to evolve, strong relationships, solid infrastructure, and strategic preparation remain the foundations of successful economic development. Key Takeaways Economic uncertainty is causing companies to delay major investment decisions AI is accelerating analysis but cannot replace experience and judgment Relationships remain a critical factor in site selection decisions Community readiness is essential for attracting new projects Infrastructure and workforce capacity continue to drive competitiveness Strategic preparation helps communities capitalize on future opportunities Key Topics Covered The impact of AI on site selection Market uncertainty and investment delays Community readiness and infrastructure planning Corporate decision-making in uncertain times Workforce and investment competitiveness Future trends in economic development Sound Bites "AI is only as good as the questions you ask." "Relationships will not be replaced by AI." "Pledges are not shovels on the ground."

    DT #673 Navigating Uncertainty in Site Selection and Facility Investment

  5. 12 Aug

    DT #671 Why Does Everyone Hate Data Centers? A Balanced Look at the Debate

    Why are data centers generating so much debate in communities across the country? In this episode of Develop This!, Dennis Fraise sits down with Dan Culhane to kick off a brand-new series exploring one of the most controversial topics in economic development: Why Does Everyone Hate Data Centers? Rather than taking sides, Dan encourages communities to ask better questions before making decisions. He explains why the conversation shouldn't simply be about saying "yes" or "no" to data centers, but about understanding their long-term impacts, evaluating tradeoffs, and ensuring projects create meaningful value for local residents. The discussion explores the economic opportunities data centers can bring, particularly for rural communities, through increased property tax revenue, infrastructure investment, and long-term community partnerships. Dan also addresses many of the concerns surrounding these projects—including electricity demand, water consumption, noise, environmental impacts, and sustainability—and explains how advances in technology and thoughtful planning are helping address many of these challenges. Throughout the conversation, Dan emphasizes the importance of transparency, responsible corporate citizenship, and constructive dialogue between developers, local officials, and community members. Communities that ask informed questions and negotiate from a position of knowledge are better equipped to secure projects that align with their long-term vision. Develop This! is launching a special series titled "Why Does Everyone Hate Data Centers?" featuring perspectives from across the conversation—including developers, community leaders, policymakers, utilities, and economic development professionals. If you'd like to be part of this important discussion as a guest on Develop This!, we'd love to connect with you. A key takeaway? The best community decisions don't come from fear or hype—they come from asking the right questions and focusing on long-term community value. Key Takeaways Communities should evaluate data center projects based on long-term community benefits. Data centers can provide significant tax revenue and investment, especially in rural areas. Modern data centers are becoming more efficient in their use of water and energy. Concerns around noise, infrastructure, and sustainability can often be addressed through thoughtful planning. Strong corporate citizenship and community engagement are essential for successful projects. Better questions lead to better decisions for communities and developers alike. Key Topics Covered Why data centers have become a controversial issue Evaluating community benefits and tradeoffs Economic impacts for rural communities Water, power, noise, and sustainability considerations Infrastructure planning and responsible development Building trust through corporate citizenship and transparency Sound Bites "Ask better questions, not just yes or no." "Data centers can be a huge opportunity for rural America." "Good corporate citizenship is part of community success."

    DT #671 Why Does Everyone Hate Data Centers? A Balanced Look at the Debate

  6. 12 Aug

    DT #672 Inside the 2026 IEDC Annual Conference: What to Expect in New Orleans

    What can attendees expect from the 2026 IEDC Annual Conference in New Orleans? In this episode of Develop This!, Dennis Fraise sits down with Nathan Ohle, President and CEO of the International Economic Development Council (IEDC), for an exclusive preview of the 2026 IEDC Annual Conference in New Orleans. As IEDC celebrates 100 years of economic development, Nathan shares how this milestone event will honor the profession's rich history while focusing on the innovations shaping its future. The conversation explores why New Orleans was selected to host the centennial conference and how the city's resilience, culture, and economic transformation make it the perfect backdrop for this historic gathering. Nathan also provides a behind-the-scenes look at new conference experiences, including town halls, community tours, networking opportunities, and interactive sessions designed to help attendees build lasting connections. A major focus of the conference is preparing economic developers for the future. Nathan discusses emerging topics such as artificial intelligence, system integration, workforce development, housing, and placemaking, explaining how these issues are reshaping communities around the world. He also offers practical advice for first-time attendees on maximizing networking opportunities, navigating the conference, and getting the most value from the experience. Whether you're a seasoned economic developer or attending your first IEDC conference, this episode offers a roadmap for making the most of one of the profession's most significant events. A key takeaway? The best conference experience isn't just about the sessions you attend—it's about the connections you make and the ideas you bring back to your community. Key Takeaways The 2026 IEDC Annual Conference celebrates 100 years of economic development. New Orleans provides a powerful backdrop of resilience, culture, and innovation. AI, placemaking, housing, and workforce development are among the conference's major themes. New interactive formats and community tours will create deeper learning experiences. Networking is one of the most valuable aspects of the conference. Planning ahead and engaging early helps attendees maximize their conference experience. Key Topics Covered Celebrating IEDC's 100th anniversary Why New Orleans was selected as the host city AI, system integration, housing, and workforce trends Placemaking and cultural economy Conference networking strategies Behind-the-scenes tours and special conference experiences Sound Bites "Best networking device is what you put in." "The way we get to the centennial celebration will be unlike anything before." "Show up at the first reception in the exhibit hall."

    DT #672 Inside the 2026 IEDC Annual Conference: What to Expect in New Orleans

  7. 5 Aug

    DT #668 AI Literacy: Small Business Capacity and the Return of Human Experience

    Artificial intelligence is no longer just a big tech conversation. For small businesses, microbusinesses, makers, solopreneurs, and entrepreneurs, AI literacy is quickly becoming a practical economic development issue.  In this episode of Develop This!, Joi Cuartero Austin talks with Tasha Sams, Director of Education at Main Street America, about what AI literacy really means for local businesses and why it matters for Main Street communities. The conversation explores how AI can help entrepreneurs build capacity, save time, strengthen marketing, improve operations, and make more informed decisions, especially for business owners who are often wearing every hat themselves.  But this conversation is not about automating everything. Joi and Tasha also explore the rise of analog and low-tech business concepts, from vinyl cafes and record shops to video rental stores, bookstores, and other experience-based businesses and what that resurgence tells us about the value of human connection, curation, memory, and place.  The episode makes the case that the future of small business may not be AI versus analog. It may be high-tech behind the scenes and deeply human at the counter.

    DT #668 AI Literacy: Small Business Capacity and the Return of Human Experience

  8. 5 Aug

    DT #670 How Communities Create Opportunity Through Leadership and Collaboration

    How can communities create lasting economic mobility in a rapidly changing world? In this episode of Develop This!, Dennis Fraise speaks with Anne Bovaird Nevins about her remarkable career journey—from the White House and the Olympic movement to leading national initiatives focused on economic and community development. Drawing on decades of experience, Anne shares lessons on leadership, collaboration, and the importance of building authentic relationships around a clear mission. She explains how successful communities create momentum by aligning people, resources, and long-term goals around shared outcomes. A major focus of the conversation is economic mobility and the role local leaders play in expanding opportunity. Anne highlights innovative approaches being used in communities like Charlotte, North Carolina, where investments in transit, infrastructure, and regional collaboration are helping connect residents to jobs and economic opportunity. The discussion also explores emerging trends shaping the future of economic development, including affordability challenges, artificial intelligence, workforce development, and the growing importance of regional alignment. Throughout the episode, Anne emphasizes a simple but powerful principle: great leaders leave places better than they found them. A key takeaway? Economic development is most effective when it combines strong leadership, strategic investment, and a commitment to improving opportunities for people. Key Takeaways Economic mobility requires intentional investment and long-term vision Strong leadership starts with authentic relationships and a clear mission Infrastructure and transit investments can expand economic opportunity Regional collaboration creates stronger and more sustainable outcomes Communities must adapt to trends such as AI and affordability challenges Lasting impact comes from improving opportunities for future generations Key Topics Covered Anne Nevins' career journey and leadership lessons Economic mobility and community impact strategies Regional collaboration and alignment Infrastructure and transit investments Workforce development and future trends AI, affordability, and the evolving economic landscape Sound Bites "Athlete experience is the core of Olympic organizing." "Invest in physical infrastructure to drive mobility." "Always leave a place better than you found it."

    DT #670 How Communities Create Opportunity Through Leadership and Collaboration
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