Mamamia Out Loud

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

  1. 8 MIN AGO

    FREE SUBS TASTER: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene

    Outlouders, enjoy this free nibble of Mia Freedman. Listen to the full conversation — Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene— at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE. Mia & Amelia are (still) obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) so they’re back for Part 2 of their deep dive into the TV series Love Story. From Naomi Watts’ depiction of real-life icon Jackie O to the complex roles of Darryl Hannah and the Kennedy matriarchs, they’re unpacking what it must have been like to marry into the complicated Kennedy family. Plus, Mia and Amelia examine the toxic dynamics that defined the couple’s public life and break down that infamous Central Park fight scene. Was it a moment of passion, or was it "emotional dysregulation"?  They also discuss the poignant newsletter from the couple’s close friend Carole Radziwill, who explains why she refuses to watch the show and the unsettling question of whether why the dead are never allowed to rest in peace in the age of AI.  It’s a raw and slightly uncomfortable look at how we consume the tragedies of the past as modern entertainment. Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to Part 1: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story  Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For Listen: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it. This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple. JFK cheated on his wife Jackie for years. She was 'paid to keep it quiet'. 'My first salary was $12k.' Working in magazines was like the real-life Devil Wears Prada. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    3 min
  2. 20 HR AGO

    Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For

    America and Israel have launched an attack on Iran, and while the world watches the fallout of "Epic Fury," we’re looking at what comes next.  Our Amelia Lester, also an editor at Foreign Policy, is here to explain why the US acted without Congress, why Australia is one of the few Western voices in support, and whether this is the kind of international meddling Donald Trump promised to avoid? Plus, Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jnr’s Love Story has triggered a wave of nostalgia for those who lived through the 90s, and 'fauxstalgia' for those who like to imagine a world that didn't involve an endless scroll. Clare Stephens wants to know what life was like when we lived with two hands, and not with one constantly on our phones. And, Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie have been snubbed, finding themselves uninvited from a major royal event. So are they being punished for the sins of their parents, or, Holly Wainwright wants to know, is this the beginning of William’s royal trim down? Also, we’ve got the definitive list of songs NOT to listen to when you’re driving.  And… Bad Bunny, Harry Styles and the ridiculous joy of watching men dance. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'One moment during the Super Bowl halftime show brought me to tears.' Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it. This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple. 'Everyone is nostalgic for 2016. But I can't romanticise a place I barely escaped.' HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Prince' Andrew's arrest is not what you think it is. Listen to The Quicky: The US & Israel Have Struck Iran Killing The Supreme Leader. What Happens Next?  THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    53 min
  3. 4 DAYS AGO

    The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover

    It’s the season to blame Tyra. Netflix’s new America’s Next Top Model doco has us spiraling back to 2003. It shows us the size-zero era through a 2026 lens, when Tyra Banks was breaking barriers while also showcasing some of the show's seriously batshit behaviour —from models posing as murder victims to 'makeovers' that involved pulling teeth. Now we’re in the MAFS era Clare Stephens wants to know: is every generation’s reality TV show of choice just programmed to prompt outrage?  Also, today is Jessie’s last day before she goes off on maternity leave. But not before a chaotic handover to her twin, Clare. As Clare prepares to take the seat, she’s re-learning the 'rules' of being an Out Loud host.  In other business, does your personality need a mini-makeover of its own? We’re talking 'micro-reinvention' — not big deals like quitting your job; more small shifts like adopting a signature condiment or finally becoming a 'Pilates person'. Holly, for instance, is wearing brown. Big deal. Huge.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Recommendations Clare recommends the "Brick"—a physical device that locks you out of your apps to fight phone addiction. Jessie recommends L’Occitane Osmanthus Abricot shower gel or DedCool Taunt Hand and Body Wash for the ultimate vibe shift. Holly recommends Eric Dane: Famous Last Words on Netflix—a raw interview with a man who has nothing left to lose. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'I was raised on America's Next Top Model. The new Netflix documentary is deeply disturbing.' Shandi was part of the biggest cheating scandal on ANTM. The truth was far worse than what we saw. Amanda Ware won Australia's Next Top Model after TV's most awkward mix-up. This is her life now. JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    57 min
  4. 4 DAYS AGO • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    SUBS: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards

    When a newsletter has the internet in a chokehold, you better believe that Mia Freedman has to unpack it. And so it is with the recent Substack from Jameela Jamil. Writing from what Jamil calls the "funeral of the body positivity movement," she posits a theory that is as provocative as it is dark: that the obsession with extreme thinness, hairlessness, and agelessness isn't just about vanity — it’s a standard designed to mimic the aesthetics of children. Jessie and Holly join Mia to dive deep into the sinister framework of the 'sexy baby' trope, questioning why grown women are taught to spend their lives trying to get back to a body they had at thirteen. Is the 'Epstein-ness' of this current cultural moment exposing a wider fetishisation of youth among the world's most powerful men? Or is Jamil's critique of the homogenised look of our favourite female stars—from Sabrina Carpenter to Taylor Swift—unfairly judging their "sparkly underpants" choice? "Your body is not meant to look the same at 28 as it did at 18." Is it time to reclaim our waistlines, our wrinkles, and our right to look like grown-ass women? Mia has thoughts — and we're pretty sure you do too. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Jameela Jamil's Substack: a href="https://jameelajamil.substack.com/p/ah-shit-we-let-pedophil

    22 min
  5. 4 DAYS AGO

    FREE SUBS TASTER: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards

    Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman. Catch the full conversation — Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards — at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Put matters right HERE. When a newsletter has the internet in a chokehold, you better believe that Mia Freedman has to unpack it. And so it is with the recent Substack from Jameela Jamil. Writing from what Jamil calls the "funeral of the body positivity movement," she posits a theory that is as provocative as it is dark: that the obsession with extreme thinness, hairlessness, and agelessness isn't just about vanity — it’s a standard designed to mimic the aesthetics of children. Jessie and Holly join Mia to dive deep into the sinister framework of the 'sexy baby' trope, questioning why grown women are taught to spend their lives trying to get back to a body they had at thirteen. Is the 'Epstein-ness' of this current cultural moment exposing a wider fetishisation of youth among the world's most powerful men? Or is Jamil's critique of the homogenised look of our favourite female stars—from Sabrina Carpenter to Taylor Swift—unfairly judging their "sparkly underpants" choice? "Your body is not meant to look the same at 28 as it did at 18." Is it time to reclaim our waistlines, our wrinkles, and our right to look like grown-ass women? Mia has thoughts — and we're pretty sure you do too. Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Jameela Jamil's Substack: Ah shit! We let pedophiles decide our beauty standards. Britney Spears, Brooke Shields and the 'criminal' interviews child stars don't want us to forget. Chappell Roan can take a stand, we apparently just need her to suffer a bit first. 'You’re routinely underestimated.' The 9 untold benefits of being an ugly child. Sarah says she has 'ugly privilege'. Okay, it's time we talk about the thing we're all too scared to talk about. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    3 min
  6. 5 DAYS AGO

    "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"

    Today, if you’re an Australian with even a drop of British or Irish blood, Amelia has a warning that might cost you hundreds of dollars.And, is it okay for celebrities to ask us for money? After the deaths of millennial TV icons James Van Der Beek and Eric Dane, their families have started GoFundMe campaigns — and not everyone’s happy about it. Holly, Jessie, and Amelia have very different takes on whether it’s okay to solicit for donations when you live on a multi-million dollar ranch.  Also, the new Married At First Sight villain,Tyson has landed. Jessie thinks his quest for a 'submissive' woman and his 'manosphere' vibes reflect what women are dealing with out in the dating world. While Holly‘s pearls are clutched about the podcast he’s doubtless going to start when he leaves the show. So, ‘should’ this man be on primetime TV?  Plus, a listener dilemma we can’t stop talking about. Vanessa is overwhelmed, over-worked, and considering quitting her job because her husband’s 'big career' has left her doing 100 percent of the heavy-lifting at home. Jessie says "life is long, just quit," while Holly is asking: if every woman is making the 'choice' to scale back, is it actually a choice at all?Plus, we deep dive into PHAARC — the probably not real (but very relatable) 'medical' condition currently ruining your work life.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Grey's Anatomy and Euphoria actor Eric Dane has died, aged 53. Legendary actor James Van Der Beek has died, aged 48. 'I'd never thought twice about donating to a GoFundMe. Until my friends wanted to start one for me.' Mamamia recaps MAFS: The 'Mean Girls' face-off with the experts. It's not laziness, it's PHAARC. The new condition hitting the workforce. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    49 min
  7. 6 DAYS AGO • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    SUBS: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story

    There are two kinds of people: those obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) and those who just don’t get it. Mia Freeman and Amelia Lester are firmly in the first camp. From Calvin Klein salesgirl to the most scrutinised woman in New York, Carolyn became a 90s' style legend — without ever giving an interview. Her marriage to John F. Kennedy Jr. turned her into paparazzi prey, her minimal wardrobe into a fashion blueprint, and her silence into an industry of speculation. On today's subs episode, Mia and Amelia dive into Love Story: John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette, the long-awaited dramatisation that had CBK obsessives in meltdown over wigs, hemlines and handbags. The show is a love story, but it’s also a slow-motion warning about paparazzi culture, pre-social media fame, and a woman who saw celebrity as a liability. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to rea

    30 min
  8. 24 FEB

    FREE SUBS TASTER: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story

    Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman and Amelia Lester. Catch the full conversation — Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story — at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? That can all change here. There are two kinds of people: those obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) and those who just don’t get it. Mia Freeman and Amelia Lester are firmly in the first camp. From Calvin Klein salesgirl to the most scrutinised woman in New York, Carolyn became a 90s' style legend — without ever giving an interview. Her marriage to John F. Kennedy Jr. turned her into paparazzi prey, her minimal wardrobe into a fashion blueprint, and her silence into an industry of speculation. On today's subs episode, Mia and Amelia dive into Love Story: John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette, the long-awaited dramatisation that had CBK obsessives in meltdown over wigs, hemlines and handbags. The show is a love story, but it’s also a slow-motion warning about paparazzi culture, pre-social media fame, and a woman who saw celebrity as a liability.Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Prince William Has Entered The Chat Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out) Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple. Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it. An aircraft that never landed: Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy, JFK Jr and the Kennedy Curse. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    3 min

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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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