The CFO Track

Tom Hunter

Most finance people never get mentors who have lived and learnt through capital raises, IPOs, administrations or ACCC scrutiny. The CFO Track changes that. I am Tom Hunter, and every week I sit down with top Australian CFOs to unpack what happened and what they learned. Clear steps, real lessons and as always, free on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube and LinkedIn Live.

  1. 4 days ago

    The best time in history to be a CFO - Damon Hauenstein (Weel)

    “I didn’t have a CA or a CPA, and I hadn’t used Xero before.” He spent 12 years in investment banking, then became a startup CFO who had to learn bookkeeping from scratch. Damon Hauenstein is now CFO and COO at Weel, but before that he was at Citi working on deals like the Masters wind-down, the biggest inventory liquidation in Australian history. He then left, took an extended break and spoke to about 100 people to work out what he actually wanted next. It landed him a first-time CFO seat at a startup that had just raised its series A. Because he hadn't studied accounting formally, he learned bookkeeping and bank reconciliations from first principles, then hired a financial controller to take the systems to the next level. If you apply Maslow’s hierarchy to finance. Transactions at the bottom, strategy and M&A at the top, you can only do the top once the bottom is sorted. With AI and automation taking out a lot of that, Damon argues that this is the best time in history to be a CFO. If you’re in finance and wondering whether the path you’re on, is what you thought it would be, this one is for you! Highlights: Hear how a 12-year investment banker became a first-time startup CFO with no CA, no CPA and no experience in accounting systemsLearn his Maslow’s hierarchy of finance, and why he thinks it’s the best time in history to be a CFOUnderstand how he found his next move by taking time off and speaking to around 100 peopleGet the GFC story of watching Citi cut 52,000 jobs from the other side of the world before he had even startedSee inside the Masters wind-down, 100 sites and half a billion in stock, run under live litigationExplore why a career in banking flips 180 degrees, from worker bee analyst to business originatorFind out the real AI numbers inside Weel, from 2 to 5 times the output per engineer to automated receiptsHear how he built a company-wide AI culture with hackathons, lunch and learns and a habit of celebrating failures Tom Hunter, Story Recruitment - first-CFO and first-finance-hire search for Australian tech, fintech and deeptech startups. Host of the CFO Track Podcast. Storyrecruitment.com.au

    The best time in history to be a CFO - Damon Hauenstein (Weel)
  2. 8 Sept

    The CFO who doesn’t like spreadsheets - Rachel Wong (The Finance Hybrid)

    Rachel Wong is back on The CFO Track, and she’s the first person we’ve ever had on twice! She’s CFO at EdSmart four days a week, spends one day in the VC world at a family office, and in her spare time she’s building The Finance Hybrid. A mission to break the finance and accounting stereotype. The thing I love about Rachel is how honest she is about it. “People who know me know that I don’t actually like spreadsheets that much,” Years ago that admission would have got her shunned. Instead, she leaned into it, and it became part of her whole motto. Don’t let anybody box you into a finance identity. She’s also become a genuine AI power-user and not in a hype way. Her month-end process took five months to build and now closes the books in a day. She talks about the “landline problem,” the idea that if you’re not hands-on with the tools, you don’t even realise you’ve fallen behind. And she manages AI like a junior, consolidating feedback and watching the token spend, which is how every CFO should think about it. What she said on careers is the one that stood out Passive is leaving the fate of your own career to somebody else.” After two rounds of maternity leave she rebuilt her presence from scratch, and a year and a half later she’s on the cover of a CFO magazine. If you’re in finance and wondering what is next for you. This one is a must-watch/listen! Highlights: Hear why our first ever returning guest built a career around not being a spreadsheet personLearn her “landline problem” analogy for why finance people fall behind on AI without realisingSee how she took month-end from a five-month build to closing the books in a dayUnderstand her case for an active career, and why she says we make our own luckGet her honest take on managing AI like a junior, and why more context does not mean better outputFind out how she runs a portfolio career across an edtech CFO seat and a day in venture capitalExplore why she believes there are no real AI experts yet, and no room for egoHear why she thinks a black-and-white finance mindset is a risk in an AI world Tom Hunter, Story Recruitment - first-CFO and first-finance-hire search for Australian tech, fintech and deeptech startups. Host of the CFO Track Podcast. Storyrecruitment.com.au

    The CFO who doesn’t like spreadsheets - Rachel Wong (The Finance Hybrid)
  3. 1 Sept

    The non-accountant who became a startup CFO - Luke Rix (KC Ventures)

    “I’m probably the first guest on your show who’s actually not an accountant.” Luke Rix is the co-founder and CEO of KC Ventures, which now runs finance for circa 70 startups. But the story starts well before that. Luke is not an accountant. He failed Accounting 101 at university and went into communications. He only ended up in finance because he co-founded a company, With You With Me, that scaled faster than anyone expected. At one point, they were number 1 on the Deloitte Fast 50. When the first CFO hire did not work out, Luke stepped in for the interim and stayed for nearly 3 years. What made him good was not technical, it was knowing his limits and working to his strengths. So he hired a strong financial controller, leaned on external advisors and spent his time on what he could do that a career CFO couldn’t. He was a co-founder, so he brought leads into the sales meeting instead of asking why the team missed their quota. His biggest lesson is one every founder needs to know. A healthy profit and loss statement hid the fact the business was nearly out of cash. “You grow yourself into failure,”. Overdue debtors, contractors paid up front and milestones paid months later. The company still scaled to 200 staff across 5 countries, before he decided it was his time to move on. It means he brings a very unique perspective to his clients across startup finance. “It’s the CFO’s job to say yes, but how.” That's how finance should be run in a startup. Look for the opportunities, not the hand brake! Highlights: Hear why a non-accountant ended up running finance for nearly three yearsLearn his reframe that a startup CFO’s job is not to say no, but to say yes, but howUnderstand the cash versus profit lesson that nearly sank the business, and how you grow yourself into failureFind out how a side project to help an unemployed veteran friend became a company in five countries with 200 staffGet the 6am hack he used to hold down a bank job, an MBA and a startup at the same timeSee how an Anzac Day PR campaign took the business from ten signups a week to two hundredHear why he brought leads into the sales meeting instead of asking why the team missed quotaExplore his read on the startup market, why it is easier to start a business now but much harder to scale one Tom Hunter, Story Recruitment - first-CFO and first-finance-hire search for Australian tech, fintech and deeptech startups. Host of the CFO Track Podcast. Storyrecruitment.com.au

    The non-accountant who became a startup CFO - Luke Rix (KC Ventures)
  4. 25 Aug

    Making Yourself Irrelevant as CFO - Mike Ammendolia (Prezzee)

    “You want to set up in a way where you’re almost irrelevant.” That’s how this CFO got the Chief Revenue Officer job. Mike Ammendolia told me that this week on The CFO Track. Mike is the CFO and Chief Revenue Officer at Prezzee, a global digital gift card company across seven markets. He's originally from Canada and moved to Australia 11 years ago. He loved it so much that he never left. At the start of his career, he got rejected from every Big 4 internship. But instead, he hustled his way into Deloitte by DJing at a university entrepreneurship conference. His professors gave him one piece of advice: just be useful. He took that literally and built a fintech audit portfolio and helped IPO companies like Zip. Then got sent halfway across the world on empty Qantas flights during COVID to check on businesses they’d acquired entirely over Zoom. When he got to Prezzee, month end was 3-4 months behind. He was told to fix it, offshore what he could and get them ready to list someday. He took the company to profitability in his first year and with 54% percent growth. Then he did something most CFOs would never consider. He made himself unnecessary. “If I didn’t think in that mindset, I wouldn’t be given the opportunity to now do revenue work or go to the US and be the acting president.” He rebuilt the sales governance the same way he’d rebuilt finance. Processes, controls and confidence levels. He’s not a salesperson, but a CFO who understands where the growth was already sitting. Reinvention from the inside. Highlights: How he got rejected from every Big Four internship and DJed his way into DeloitteWhy lateral moves through fintech audit built the foundation for his CFO careerWhat it was like flying on empty Qantas 737s during COVID to check on acquisitions done over ZoomHow he took Prezzee to profitability in his first year with fifty-four percent growthThe philosophy of making yourself “almost irrelevant” as a CFO and why it opens doorsWhy he reframed the CFO role from “no” to “what would need to be true for me to say yes”How he transitioned from CFO to Chief Revenue Officer without being a salespersonHis advice on using AI to differentiate as a finance leader rather than just cutting costs Tom Hunter, Story Recruitment - first-CFO and first-finance-hire search for Australian tech, fintech and deeptech startups. Host of the CFO Track Podcast. Storyrecruitment.com.au

    Making Yourself Irrelevant as CFO - Mike Ammendolia (Prezzee)
  5. 18 Aug

    Inside one of the biggest deals in Australian history - Rebecca Lowde (MYOB)

    Rebecca Lowde worked on one of the biggest deals in Australian corporate history. As one of Australia's best tech CFOs, Rebecca was CFO of Afterpay through the Block acquisition and she is now CFO at MYOB. Before that, she was with Oracle across Europe, SAP across multiple regions and a role as a CEO she never planned to take. Her accidental CEO story is the one that stood out At Salmat, the board offered her the top job and her instinct was to say no. She had always assumed CEOs were the extroverts who “walk and talk and go on a stage and kiss babies” and that is not her! But driven to push herself, she took the role, stood up at her first town hall and admitted to the business that she would make mistakes and wanted their help. The response from the rest of the business was incredible. 3 years on, after selling off each part of the business, she worked out what she actually wanted to be. The answer was CFO. “I’ve proven I can do the CEO role and I’m not doing it again!” Her philosophy on finance is something that every ambitious finance professional needs to hear. "What you never want to be is business prevention. You always want to be an enabler of growth." That theme runs through her whole career, from making her finance team sit in on sales calls to an Accountant at MYOB, who built an AI agent that cut a 5 hour process to 5 minutes. If you have ever felt like you were the wrong fit for the job in front of you, this one's for you! Highlights: Why she almost turned down the CEO role, and the small moment in a lift that changed her mindHer rule for finance teams, that you never want to be business prevention, only an enabler of growthHow she worked on the Block acquisition of Afterpay, the largest transaction in Australian corporate history, almost entirely over ZoomWhy she made all her finance directors sit in on sales calls every quarterEgo and imposter syndrome, and why she Googled banking covenants in her first ASX roleShe learned change management the hard way, centralising European finance into a shared service centre in DublinHow one of her MYOB accountants built an AI agent that cut a five hour journal down to five minutesHer view that finance is moving from transactional work into the value added advisor space, and why graduates should stay curious Tom Hunter, Story Recruitment - first-CFO and first-finance-hire search for Australian tech, fintech and deeptech startups. Host of the CFO Track Podcast. Storyrecruitment.com.au

    Inside one of the biggest deals in Australian history - Rebecca Lowde (MYOB)
  6. 11 Aug

    19 Years at SAP and Why She Never Left - Gina McNamara (SAP)

    Everything that made her great as a specialist didn't help her as a CFO. Gina McNamara told me that this week on the first episode of Season 3 of the CFO Track. Gina is the Regional CFO at SAP. She has been there 19 years, with 6 market units across Asia Pacific, Japan and China. Gina joined through an acquisition as a contractor. She wasn’t even permanent at the time, but took every role that would help her learn. Revenue recognition and commercial business partnering. Each one built her skillset, helped to earn trust and Gina made it to CFO, still in her 30s! Then the job changed her career. Male dominated and difficult conditions at times. The skills she’d spent years building were the wrong ones for the role she was now in. Gina began working with an executive coach that gave her a different perspective. “What if you just left those 20 emails at 5pm? What would happen?”. Gina’s team had to tell her to stop doing their jobs and she started stepping into the role she knew she could do all along. 19 years with SAP, because she kept choosing to learn. Not settling for comfortable, but 19 years of progression and growth. A massive Season 3 is here for The CFO Track. Welcome back! Highlights: • Her first year as CFO nearly broke her and an executive coach turned it around • Why lateral career moves matter more than promotions for building a path to CFO • How she survived an acquisition as a contractor and turned it into an 19 year career • The moment her team told her to stop doing their jobs and why it was the best feedback she got • What happens when you say no and someone tells the CEO you don’t understand • How SAP is running vibe coding sessions inside its own finance function • What it takes to manage six markets across Asia Pacific as a working parent • Why 19 years at one company is not stagnation when the business never stops changing Tom Hunter, Story Recruitment - first-CFO and first-finance-hire search for Australian tech, fintech and deeptech startups. Host of the CFO Track Podcast. Storyrecruitment.com.au

    19 Years at SAP and Why She Never Left - Gina McNamara (SAP)
  7. 21 Jul

    Stepping Back and Being Nice to People - Mihir Bhatt

    This episode was brought to you by Tallystone. Use the promo code CFOTRACK for a 30 day free trial by visiting tallystone.com/cfotrack. He walked into the phone room at 21 and is now the Group CFO. Mihir Bhatt working on the phones, 20 hours a week, when he walked across the office and asked the finance team if there were any jobs going. There was, a 3 months of accounts payable cover for someone on leave. He put his hand up and it started the rest of his career. He did every job in the finance function. AP, payroll, bank approvals, tax calculations, Financial Controller, Finance Director. He implemented the Paprika finance system globally and then he took a step back. Finance Director to Commercial Manager. Smaller role on paper, but much bigger in reality. It set him up for an 11-year run to now as the newly appointed Group CFO of WPP, the world's largest advertising and media group. If you're weighing up a big career decision and how it will impact your future, this one's for you. Highlights: The step back from Finance Director to Commercial Manager, and the line Mihir landed on: look at the role, not the job titleWhy external perception of a career move only hurts for 4 to 6 weeksThe small office finance years that still pay off 15 years laterThe acting CFO baptism: COVID hit, the WPP CFO stepped down, Mihir was the 2IC, and he led the group through"I was surprisingly quite calm" — the realisation that the CFO chair is the 1 where there's nobody else to pass the buck toTreating senior people on his team as partners, not dotted line reportsWhy being nice to people on the way up is the underrated discipline of senior finance leadership

  8. 14 Jul

    Capital as a Force and the 3 Skills to build a business - Dr Tanvir Uddin

    This episode was brought to you by Tallystone. Use the promo code CFOTRACK for a 30-day free trial by visiting tallystone.com/cfotrack. He walked away because the environment was too comfortable. Dr Tanvir Uddin walked away from a role at the Islamic Development Bank in Saudi Arabia because the room was too comfortable. It might seem like an odd time to quit. He was in the role and succeeding International salary, education, healthcare, every perk you'd expect from a global bank. But he walked away because the culture told him to stay in his lane while the world's problems remain unsolved. He'd already had the McKinsey years before that and an agricultural enterprise stint in Indonesia with the Clinton Foundation . He also has a PhD and he wasn't your typical finance person. He'd come into finance through a single insight that he says hasn't changed since. Capital is the most powerful force for moving and changing societies, countries and economies. If you want to have impact at scale, you have to learn how to move it. So he came home. He spent time at Brighte during the high growth years and picked up a perseverance lesson from Katherine McConnell that he still quotes. Then he founded Vyro, which led him to Invest Wholesum, the values aligned investment platform he runs now as Founder and CEO. This is one of the most interesting finance origin stories I've had on the show. The thread through Tanvir's career is the same as the thread through this chat. Capital is a tool. The goal is to use it on something worth focusing on. Highlights: The McKinsey years and the insight that brought a non-finance, PhD trained founder into finance"Capital is the most powerful force for moving and changing societies, countries and economies"The IsDB Saudi fellowship, the IE Business School sponsored Master's, and the cushy seat Tanvir walked away from"Stay in your lane" - the universal corporate frustration that defined the leapThe 3 skills every finance career compounds on: modelling, executive communications, storytellingWhy the most impressive capital raises sell a story the numbers support, with SpaceX as the exampleThe Brighte high growth years and the founding of Viro into Invest Wholesome, the values aligned investment platform Tanvir runs today

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Most finance people never get mentors who have lived and learnt through capital raises, IPOs, administrations or ACCC scrutiny. The CFO Track changes that. I am Tom Hunter, and every week I sit down with top Australian CFOs to unpack what happened and what they learned. Clear steps, real lessons and as always, free on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube and LinkedIn Live.

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